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I listened to a show of 58mxlive podcast today.First let me admit that I have my own faith.However listening to a few of the guest who are pretty established racers made me question a few things

First,if the Good Lord was with this certain rider to keep him from being injured in a bad crash, does tha mean God dropped me when I wiped out a few weeks ago and ended up in the hospital for a week,?
Cause i sure feel like it

Second.if God doesnt give us more than we can handle, what happened to all the poor souls living in mental instututions?

Third, in Gods plan things are predetermined, why should I try and why is my limit set if I try as hard as I can? So its Gods fault that I didnt become a factory rider? Cause when I was young. that was my dream.So its predetermined that Jeremy is of favor and is SX champion and I am a chump carpenter slaving to the grind?

I dont know about taking religon to the track. Its my faith that I believe in Christ.Go to church on Saturday if you are racing Sunday.Soon Jews and Muslims are going to be holidng pray service .
Its already tough enough to get through 72 motos with 3 lap races and finishing in the dark
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CY25 10/2/2008 9:12pm
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Cool MaxPower you were listening as our hope is to stir up questions.

It sounds like you've made up your own religion or faith as you put it so you really don't have a foundation to stand on anyway. Religion is just that, a bit of this and pinch of that and wallah, something that makes me feel good. "Christian" is such a loosley used term today its really lost all its meaning.

I will be the first to say religion has screwed more people up than I can count. Our goal at 58Motocross is that "Christians' stop relying on the "holy" man at a race to do the "protection prayer" Sheesh that's faith? I can go to a car auction and get faith LOL!

If you really want some answers email at Info@58MX.COM

In the mean time did you hear Cannard sharing his hope in seeing his dad someday? He may not know all the answers (he knows a lot) but he has tremendous faith. Maybe you should knock David Bailey too, since he's seemed to have gone crazy for Jesus.

Thanks for listening.
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Devil1nNj 10/2/2008 9:27pm
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CY25
Non-Moto.

I'm tired of listening to (&reading) people explain how the lord Jesus Christ keeps them safe in races, or competitions, where the reward is money, or fame, yet, lets those in the political arena of warfare die while defending the nation they feel god has blessed. Take this discussion to a different arena. This is not the medium for you to "spread the word".

Every MX/SX site I've been on has a "non-moto" forum.
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CY25 Non-Moto. I'm tired of listening to (&reading) people explain how the lord Jesus Christ keeps them safe in races, or competitions, where the reward is...
CY25
Non-Moto.

I'm tired of listening to (&reading) people explain how the lord Jesus Christ keeps them safe in races, or competitions, where the reward is money, or fame, yet, lets those in the political arena of warfare die while defending the nation they feel god has blessed. Take this discussion to a different arena. This is not the medium for you to "spread the word".

Every MX/SX site I've been on has a "non-moto" forum.
Yes I agree with you but I didn't post it Grinning

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flynbrian 10/3/2008 5:17am
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Just a thought... You are not God so you do not know the plan so all you can do is try your best and God will do the rest, what ever that is, have faith in him that the out come is His will. Try to look at the BIG PICTURE and not the way things seem at the time. God is not put in a box to be taken out when it is time to go to church. Just not the way it works... but keep asking and seeking and the TRUTH will be revieled. Oh and keep going to church and listening to 58mxliveWink
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flynbrian wrote:
Just a thought... You are not God so you do not know the plan so all you can do is try your best and God will...
Just a thought... You are not God so you do not know the plan so all you can do is try your best and God will do the rest, what ever that is, have faith in him that the out come is His will. Try to look at the BIG PICTURE and not the way things seem at the time. God is not put in a box to be taken out when it is time to go to church. Just not the way it works... but keep asking and seeking and the TRUTH will be revieled. Oh and keep going to church and listening to 58mxliveWink
Very well said, not sure about the listening to 58MXLive part though Woohoo
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rallendude 10/3/2008 5:48am
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Maxpower, if you truly have these questions feel free to email me at rallendude at aol dot com. I'd love to converse with you about the things you've posted.

I too feel that this isn't necessarily the best place for it. But, if your interested enough to PM or email me I'd gladly listen and give my input.

blankplate 10/3/2008 6:35am
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Why would this not be the place for it? Non-moto maybe but it did have to do with MX.

As far as not praying for protection at the track; if you're a christian why wouldn't you? I pray for protection every morning on m way to work. My son and I also say a quick prayer at the track before we ride. Dont really see a problem with it and definately wouldn't stop.
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CY25 wrote:
Cool MaxPower you were listening as our hope is to stir up questions. It sounds like you've made up your own religion or faith as you...
Cool MaxPower you were listening as our hope is to stir up questions.

It sounds like you've made up your own religion or faith as you put it so you really don't have a foundation to stand on anyway. Religion is just that, a bit of this and pinch of that and wallah, something that makes me feel good. "Christian" is such a loosley used term today its really lost all its meaning.

I will be the first to say religion has screwed more people up than I can count. Our goal at 58Motocross is that "Christians' stop relying on the "holy" man at a race to do the "protection prayer" Sheesh that's faith? I can go to a car auction and get faith LOL!

If you really want some answers email at Info@58MX.COM

In the mean time did you hear Cannard sharing his hope in seeing his dad someday? He may not know all the answers (he knows a lot) but he has tremendous faith. Maybe you should knock David Bailey too, since he's seemed to have gone crazy for Jesus.

Thanks for listening.
hey good show u guys have started I have lisitiened to a few I liked the David Bailey one especially and its great to hear so many US riders are saved and have a relationship with Jesus, its great to see they can combine their sport and their faith.

Chrisitanity is not a religion it is a relationship with Jesus
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krewmx356 10/3/2008 6:59am
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I believe what CY25 was trying to say is that "religion" is a certain set of beliefs and/or rules. "Christianity" is a relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. Christianity is not about rules, customs, or rituals. It is strictly about knowing and having a relationship with the Lord. It is totally okay to have questions, I certainly have them. But HE is my best friend, and I can come to HIM with anything!
I also agree that Jesus/Christianity is not something to box up and pull it out when you need it or when you feel like it. He is only a prayer away, just invite HIM into your life and he will be with you ALWAYS.
Oh yeah, I too wad up from time to time, but that certainly doesn't mean he wasn't taking care of me. I believe he has taught me something everytime I have hit the ground!
Thanks for listening!
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blankplate 10/3/2008 7:03am
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krewmx356 wrote:
I believe what CY25 was trying to say is that "religion" is a certain set of beliefs and/or rules. "Christianity" is a relationship with our Lord...
I believe what CY25 was trying to say is that "religion" is a certain set of beliefs and/or rules. "Christianity" is a relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. Christianity is not about rules, customs, or rituals. It is strictly about knowing and having a relationship with the Lord. It is totally okay to have questions, I certainly have them. But HE is my best friend, and I can come to HIM with anything!
I also agree that Jesus/Christianity is not something to box up and pull it out when you need it or when you feel like it. He is only a prayer away, just invite HIM into your life and he will be with you ALWAYS.
Oh yeah, I too wad up from time to time, but that certainly doesn't mean he wasn't taking care of me. I believe he has taught me something everytime I have hit the ground!
Thanks for listening!
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That I definately agree with.

I'm glad you guys posted this up. I just checked out your website for the first time and read through everything. Very cool.
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mccread 10/3/2008 7:34am
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krewmx356 wrote:
I believe what CY25 was trying to say is that "religion" is a certain set of beliefs and/or rules. "Christianity" is a relationship with our Lord...
I believe what CY25 was trying to say is that "religion" is a certain set of beliefs and/or rules. "Christianity" is a relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. Christianity is not about rules, customs, or rituals. It is strictly about knowing and having a relationship with the Lord. It is totally okay to have questions, I certainly have them. But HE is my best friend, and I can come to HIM with anything!
I also agree that Jesus/Christianity is not something to box up and pull it out when you need it or when you feel like it. He is only a prayer away, just invite HIM into your life and he will be with you ALWAYS.
Oh yeah, I too wad up from time to time, but that certainly doesn't mean he wasn't taking care of me. I believe he has taught me something everytime I have hit the ground!
Thanks for listening!
Kevin
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good post Kevin! Try and get Albee on, I did an interview with him for a locla Irish Mag, really nice guy and strong christian too, he also said how the US was a lot easier to be a christian than it was when he was in Belgium for the GPs- it was more about religion there.
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CY25 10/3/2008 8:03am
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good post Kevin! Try and get Albee on, I did an interview with him for a locla Irish Mag, really nice guy and strong christian too...
good post Kevin! Try and get Albee on, I did an interview with him for a locla Irish Mag, really nice guy and strong christian too, he also said how the US was a lot easier to be a christian than it was when he was in Belgium for the GPs- it was more about religion there.
Good call mccread, after talking to Ping I'll see if he can get us in contact with Albee. I have heard he is a super nice guy from many people.

You might be interested in next weeks interview...Bob Moore (1985 125 West Champion, 1994 MX2 world champion) is scheduled to come on and talk with us. He has a very interesting testimony on coming to know God.


ShoujoKakumei 10/3/2008 8:08am
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Whenever I hear someone thank Jesus for them winning something, be it a contest or a sporting event or some kind of celebrity bullshit, I think of Kathy Griffin's Emmy speech.


"A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for winning these awards. Well, I want you to know that no one had less to do with me winning this award than Jesus. If it were up to him, Caeser Milan would be up here with that damn dog! So suck it, Jesus, this award is my god now!"



Edited, before anyone takes this wrong - I'm not bashing anybody's faith, I'm just saying, this is what pops into my head when these situations arise. Grinning
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ShoujoKakumei wrote:
Whenever I hear someone thank Jesus for them winning something, be it a contest or a sporting event or some kind of celebrity bullshit, I think...
Whenever I hear someone thank Jesus for them winning something, be it a contest or a sporting event or some kind of celebrity bullshit, I think of Kathy Griffin's Emmy speech.


"A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for winning these awards. Well, I want you to know that no one had less to do with me winning this award than Jesus. If it were up to him, Caeser Milan would be up here with that damn dog! So suck it, Jesus, this award is my god now!"



Edited, before anyone takes this wrong - I'm not bashing anybody's faith, I'm just saying, this is what pops into my head when these situations arise. Grinning
HA!

Thanking Jesus for helping you win any competition infers that Jesus wasn't pulling for the other guys

... so how did Villopoto get back in his good graces for the Nationals?
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CY25 10/3/2008 8:45am
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HA! Thanking Jesus for helping you win any competition infers that Jesus [u]wasn't[/u] pulling for the other guys ... so how did Villopoto get back in...
HA!

Thanking Jesus for helping you win any competition infers that Jesus wasn't pulling for the other guys

... so how did Villopoto get back in his good graces for the Nationals?
Duh....he put more money in the plate Whistling
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flynbrian 10/3/2008 9:01am
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It seems like when you say the word Jesus that some people are encouraged and others are reminded that they are on the way to Hell. Expect both positive and negative comments. But it seems like I read somewhere that this might happen.Whistling
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rallendude 10/3/2008 9:07am
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Not the right place because it will only lead to bickering and name calling like every other thread about Christianity.

I've been in many here and on other boards. There are and always will be less Christians in the world as we know it than non-Christians. This leads to derogatory comments and name calling that only hinders what I'd like to see come out of these type conversations.

I believe if MaxPower has those questons then he knows about faith but really lacks a good understanding of it. We grow as Christians just as we grow as racers, people, or workers (in whatever field). You don't majically understand everything about Christianity when you pray for salvation. The quesitons he's asked are good ones and they are all valid concerns. I believe there are good answers for them as well.

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Mxbaby511 10/3/2008 9:51am
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I dont think he's saying he doesnt believe in religion at the track, he just doesnt think it should be brought up at the track, like praying before you race, it doesnt change the fact that One rider is going to come off that track in peices. Praying does help some people and it just might save you in the long run but I dont think praying before you race will change much.
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flynbrian 10/3/2008 10:01am
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Prayer doesn't change the race...it changes the the racer.
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Mxbaby511 10/3/2008 10:03am
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Your right, but what about the other racers it doesnt affect? Prayer wont change everyone, and for thise it doesnt affect... Do they have a bigger chance of wrecking or taking out the rider that it does affect??
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Oh god
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mxrose3 10/3/2008 10:45am
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Prayer should not be forced on anyone. If you want to pray at the track before a race, go for it. Whether its by yourself or with a group of people that agree with your religion - thats your perogative. But don't force feed it or try to get others to agree with it - you will only be asking for trouble.
There are many religions in this world, and Christianity is just one of them.
Believe what you will.
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flynbrian 10/3/2008 10:54am
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It's not about trying to change the outcome of the race, But about changing your heart, Building your relationship. Prayer is communication in a relationship between you and God. You can ask to win a race and God can say "no". It's not what we ask for that benifits us. It is the asking itself that is benificial.
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slowvet 10/3/2008 11:09am
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Dang Max, hope you're heal'n up.
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CY25 10/3/2008 11:18am
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flynbrian wrote:
Prayer doesn't change the race...it changes the the racer.
NICE!! Cool
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It`s all about Brian i tell thee
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Jabjr222 10/3/2008 11:52am
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Oh man, I should shut up before I get started... bring this to non moto and play on the dark side!

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