New bike every year

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Edited Date/Time 6/17/2014 5:21pm
So around where I live, I see a crazy ammount of people getting a new bike each year. I can see it if youre going places and/or are finishing in the top 3 overall each weekend consistantly but mid pack in beginner/junior ( C/B ) and getting a brand new bike each year? Just doesnt make sense to me. If youre like my buddy who had an 05 crf250 and got a 14 for christmas and youre a front runner I can see it, but I just cant understand what its about. Any insight? Maybe they think they arent good enough to run up front with last years bike so they need the best?
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Camp332 6/16/2014 7:01am
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Dude, you don't need a new bike each year.

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mxb2 6/16/2014 7:02am
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Maybe they have $$ and can afford it., i love seeing new bikes out at tracks, c rider or A rider, their money , their decisions.
Mchenault499 6/16/2014 7:06am
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Ya if they have the money, good for them. It's not needed these days but I wish I were in their shoes. Buy a new bike for 7k when it comes out, then when the new models come out sell yours for 5500 and buy a new one for 7k.
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I used to get one every couple of years but I kept my 05 crf until now and now about to get the new 15 and it should be a wild experience having never had FI, air forks or this optional mapping button. I am excited.

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Lane-O103 6/16/2014 7:18am
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Maybe like every 5 or so years to atleast get some use out of it a year isn't alot of time to get to know your bike. Maybe getting a new bike every year on Craigslist because you can find 2013 and 2014 bikes for half off. I think getting a new bike every year from the dealership isn't a smart move and you don't need all the new gadgets to have fun on a dirt bike.
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slipdog 6/16/2014 7:23am
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Nothing beats a new bike.

No matter how much work you do, they never feel the same after 30-40 hard hours.
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Nobody needs a new bike every year, but if you have the means why not?
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Maybe they do it so they never have to do any serious motor work? You figure chances of a major failure or need of an overhaul on a new bike in one year are pretty low, and you will probably get a decent resale price when it does come time to make a switch. I guess if you can take the few thousand dollar hit every year (which isn't that bad when you consider some other hobbies), then you might as well go for it.
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Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they are still not happy and in debt up to their ears. I'd love a new bike but one every year is ridiculous and IMO makes you look like a poser. Someone who's more into the bling than twisting the throttle.
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MxKing809 6/16/2014 8:04am
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Here is how I sell it to my wife:

I just bought a '14 let's say for 7,000, after 2 years of riding it needs a bottom end (if it hasn't gone yet), linkage and swing arm bearings, steering stem bearings, etc....

If I can sell my '14 RIGHT before the '16s hit the floor it's technically only 1 year old (fall of '15). I would say it would be reasonable to expect 5,500-6,000 depending on condition.

So with that, I can spend 1,000-1,500 dollars on a new bike upgrade and not dump that money into a bike that will soon be two years old. When you factor in the added future value of the new bike it's just about an even wash. It keeps everything fresh and keeps the gremlins from popping up on a two race season bike.
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Lane-O103 6/16/2014 8:13am
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ChrisB10 wrote:
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they...
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they are still not happy and in debt up to their ears. I'd love a new bike but one every year is ridiculous and IMO makes you look like a poser. Someone who's more into the bling than twisting the throttle.
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't know how to ride it. Get a cheap good bike learn to ride it, then move on to more expensive, faster bikes.
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kawasa84 6/16/2014 8:27am
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I have the means and and would purchase a new bike today if Kawasaki hadn't discontinued the model I ride. So I keep good parts on the two I own (05' and 06') KX 250's and still have a blast riding.
At my age I don't need new bikes, although now I can afford them.
If Kawi would produce the bigger cc 2 strokes again I will pull the trigger again, but they don't have much time left on someone like me.
I will say I spend a shitload throughout the year on after market necessities to keep it in track ride condition so I still support the sport.
The "New Bike" market left me, I didn't leave the "new bike" market.
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ChrisB10 wrote:
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they...
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they are still not happy and in debt up to their ears. I'd love a new bike but one every year is ridiculous and IMO makes you look like a poser. Someone who's more into the bling than twisting the throttle.
Lane-O103 wrote:
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't...
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't know how to ride it. Get a cheap good bike learn to ride it, then move on to more expensive, faster bikes.
Those people drop a lot of coin into the industry, and keep it afloat. The next time you see a C rider pull up to your local track in a fun mover full of practice and race bikes each with Ti/Carbon exhaust, hydro clutch, etc., stacks of new tires, a different set of gear for each 10 minutes spent on the track, custom painted helmets, a mechanic, a team of groupies, skulls, and monster stickers everywhere, shake his hand and thank him instead of getting butt hurt.

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Suns_PSD 6/16/2014 8:38am
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If it's your passion and you can afford it, why not? Frankly if you look at maintenance costs, what you resale the old one for etc, and if you have a deal where you buy the new one right, Only losing $3K isn't out of the question. And that's just not a whole lot of money too many people.

I could go this route and change up bikes a lot, but I really enjoy modifying them and you can never get that money back. Also, I don't mind riding an older but well dialed 2 stroke which is why I rode the previous one for 6 years and I intend to keep this one indefinitely.
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ChrisB10 wrote:
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they...
Seems like those people are the people that look for happiness with material items.I know people with the newest phone computer truck bike house and they are still not happy and in debt up to their ears. I'd love a new bike but one every year is ridiculous and IMO makes you look like a poser. Someone who's more into the bling than twisting the throttle.
Lane-O103 wrote:
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't...
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't know how to ride it. Get a cheap good bike learn to ride it, then move on to more expensive, faster bikes.
GrapeApe wrote:
Those people drop a lot of coin into the industry, and keep it afloat. The next time you see a C rider pull up to your...
Those people drop a lot of coin into the industry, and keep it afloat. The next time you see a C rider pull up to your local track in a fun mover full of practice and race bikes each with Ti/Carbon exhaust, hydro clutch, etc., stacks of new tires, a different set of gear for each 10 minutes spent on the track, custom painted helmets, a mechanic, a team of groupies, skulls, and monster stickers everywhere, shake his hand and thank him instead of getting butt hurt.

I have the most fun with those guys. I roost em harder and have been known to put elbows in on em too. Love those guys.
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JM485 wrote:
Maybe they do it so they never have to do any serious motor work? You figure chances of a major failure or need of an overhaul...
Maybe they do it so they never have to do any serious motor work? You figure chances of a major failure or need of an overhaul on a new bike in one year are pretty low, and you will probably get a decent resale price when it does come time to make a switch. I guess if you can take the few thousand dollar hit every year (which isn't that bad when you consider some other hobbies), then you might as well go for it.
Exactly. Ever have a four stroke eat a valve? It's tough paying $2k - $3k to get a bike running again after one of these events and when you're done you still have an old bike worth the same as it was before the meltdown.

Resale is another reason. I buy bikes early in the model year, ride them a year (about 100 hours) then sell them for a reasonable price ($4k to $5k). I consider these things ticking time bombs after the 100 hour mark so in my mind the loss on re-sale is offset by not paying for major repairs.
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Lane-O103 wrote:
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't...
Agreed and the kids just starting out and they have to have a 6 grand bike, $900 worth of gear, 3 GoPros, and then they don't know how to ride it. Get a cheap good bike learn to ride it, then move on to more expensive, faster bikes.
GrapeApe wrote:
Those people drop a lot of coin into the industry, and keep it afloat. The next time you see a C rider pull up to your...
Those people drop a lot of coin into the industry, and keep it afloat. The next time you see a C rider pull up to your local track in a fun mover full of practice and race bikes each with Ti/Carbon exhaust, hydro clutch, etc., stacks of new tires, a different set of gear for each 10 minutes spent on the track, custom painted helmets, a mechanic, a team of groupies, skulls, and monster stickers everywhere, shake his hand and thank him instead of getting butt hurt.

kawasa84 wrote:
I have the most fun with those guys. I roost em harder and have been known to put elbows in on em too. Love those guys.
HahahaLaughing

GrapeApe and kawasa84 get it. Thank them for spending so much money in the sport OFF the track...then roost them and show them all that money is a waste ON the track. Tongue Cool Wink Smile
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burn1986 6/16/2014 9:04am
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According to some people's logic, you're not supporting the cause, and you're not speaking with your wallet if you don't buy new.

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str8shooter 6/16/2014 9:04am
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Mostly I believe its just about having a status symbol. The new "look at me generation"

Personally, I "could" afford to have a new bike every year as well and used to buy new when I raced every year. I can see doing it if you stack up the hours on them.

Now I buy vintage and trick them out a little..... then go to the local tracks with a 15yo bike and stomp some dirt up the ass of most of the guys on the current year bikes and still keep pace with mid level A class.
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Mostly I believe its just about having a status symbol. The new "look at me generation"

X2 on that
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imo, if you can afford and want a new bike, go for it, its a hobby,passion, no different than other hobbies. C rider will be a C rider no matter what bike, but i think its good putting $$ back in the industry.and usually the haters are broke or to cheap to buy a new bike.
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burn1986 6/16/2014 9:38am
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I wonder if the "broke or haters" group or will grow over the next couple of years?
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The only bike I ever bought new was a 2006 YZ250F. It only took me one new bike to realize the loss of resale value after 2 years is not worth the price I paid.

I have had 4 different bikes since 2006, but each of those bikes I have bought were 1-2 years old at the time. On all of those bikes I sold them for close to the same price I paid for them because I maintained them well and kept them nice looking.

I hate to say it, but I can't ever see myself buying a new bike again.

I am the same way with autos. I couldn't even imaging buying a brand new car or truck. Instead, let someone else take the hit for 2-3 years and then buy if for half price.
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Darryl916 6/16/2014 10:11am
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If you do the new bike every year thing correctly I think you can save some money by never doing major maintenance and always ride a fresh bike. There is no feeling like a new bike!

I purchased my first brand new bike in Feb 2012. I think I'll go new from now on but will wait until it's a major model upgrade to do it. My race bike is a 2012 CRF 450. The 15 looks tits. A new bike for me will come in 15 or 16. Not sure yet if I'll keep my 2012 as a practice bike or not. Selling it could score me all the upgrades I like though for nothing out of pocket. Bars, chain, suspension re-valve, graphics, seat cover, couple air filters, etc
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MxKing809 wrote:
Here is how I sell it to my wife: I just bought a '14 let's say for 7,000, after 2 years of riding it needs a...
Here is how I sell it to my wife:

I just bought a '14 let's say for 7,000, after 2 years of riding it needs a bottom end (if it hasn't gone yet), linkage and swing arm bearings, steering stem bearings, etc....

If I can sell my '14 RIGHT before the '16s hit the floor it's technically only 1 year old (fall of '15). I would say it would be reasonable to expect 5,500-6,000 depending on condition.

So with that, I can spend 1,000-1,500 dollars on a new bike upgrade and not dump that money into a bike that will soon be two years old. When you factor in the added future value of the new bike it's just about an even wash. It keeps everything fresh and keeps the gremlins from popping up on a two race season bike.
MXking has it right... If you do it right, it can be cheaper then dealing with a catastrophic motor failure.

Sure there are some people that just throw the wallet at it. But if it's done right, you can be riding brand new equipment for $1,500-$2000 a year and no mechanicals.

I think the older we get, the wiser we get. I know when I was 20 years old, I would never spend big money on a bike, but now I have been working hard for 10 years, I can ride only once or twice a week. I want my bike to be dialed. With this all said, I never bought a new bike, I just low ball craigslisters when they get rid of their slightly used bikes(so it works out the best for me)!

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Sounds like a few bitter people in this thread can't afford a new bkke every year. Neither can I, but I won't sit here and rag on people over it. Whoever says nobody needs a new bike every year needs to step their game up. These bikes don't last long before you have to sink in some major coin if you ride them hard. And I don't mean +50 class ridden hard. Easier to just buy a new one. As for the people who buy one every year just to "be cool", who cares? It's good for the industry.

ChrisB10: New bikes make you look like a poser? Isn't that some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
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My boy is on mini's, we live in Southern CA and his bike hits the ground more times a month than most people get to ride a year. With that said he get's more than one a year. They wear out when you ride that much and it cost's less to buy a new one and loose $1000 than rebuild them ground up all the time.
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MxKing809 wrote:
Here is how I sell it to my wife: I just bought a '14 let's say for 7,000, after 2 years of riding it needs a...
Here is how I sell it to my wife:

I just bought a '14 let's say for 7,000, after 2 years of riding it needs a bottom end (if it hasn't gone yet), linkage and swing arm bearings, steering stem bearings, etc....

If I can sell my '14 RIGHT before the '16s hit the floor it's technically only 1 year old (fall of '15). I would say it would be reasonable to expect 5,500-6,000 depending on condition.

So with that, I can spend 1,000-1,500 dollars on a new bike upgrade and not dump that money into a bike that will soon be two years old. When you factor in the added future value of the new bike it's just about an even wash. It keeps everything fresh and keeps the gremlins from popping up on a two race season bike.
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MXking has it right... If you do it right, it can be cheaper then dealing with a catastrophic motor failure. Sure there are some people that...
MXking has it right... If you do it right, it can be cheaper then dealing with a catastrophic motor failure.

Sure there are some people that just throw the wallet at it. But if it's done right, you can be riding brand new equipment for $1,500-$2000 a year and no mechanicals.

I think the older we get, the wiser we get. I know when I was 20 years old, I would never spend big money on a bike, but now I have been working hard for 10 years, I can ride only once or twice a week. I want my bike to be dialed. With this all said, I never bought a new bike, I just low ball craigslisters when they get rid of their slightly used bikes(so it works out the best for me)!

$1500.00 to $2000.00 Wow, is that what 4 stroke repairs are going for these days?? Damn, glad I'm from the 2T generation.
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Gebken40 6/16/2014 10:24am
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Whoever is asking this question or doesn't understand the purpose of getting a new bike every year clearly doesn't ride enough, ride hard enough, or really compete at a national level. Depending on how much you ride, where you ride, how you ride, and your expectations all effect the reason for getting a new bike every year. I get two new bikes every year and in the past got even more than that.
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burn1986 wrote:
I wonder if the "broke or haters" group or will grow over the next couple of years?
work hard , play hard. why worry about other people in a few years.

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