Wow. Barcia on sand.

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jasonv43 9/26/2012 9:09am
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Gotta say that going to the MXON is such a rad experience. I was fortunate enough to make it to the race at Budds Creek.and loved it. I've got to make it overseas for one of these events. Which track would be one of the better ones to go to?
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thrillbillie91 wrote:
yeah you guys are right haha [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/26/lommel_907248.jpg[/img] .... looks a bit smooth round there....we shall see who has shitty knickers soon lol
yeah you guys are right haha


.... looks a bit smooth round there....we shall see who has shitty knickers soon lol
That looks like it would be easier to go ACROSS the track.
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lucero10x 9/26/2012 9:16am
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*2

I actually hope Herlings smokes everyone so we don't have to be on 24 hr. suicide watch for every vital member with a location not listed as USA.
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onthepipe wrote:
I have to say Barcia surprised me in that vid. Looks very good. But if you watch that vid again. He's seated in all the corners...
I have to say Barcia surprised me in that vid. Looks very good. But if you watch that vid again. He's seated in all the corners. Herlings will put on a riding clinic I hope.
Didn't RC sit a lot also?

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neverwasfastenuf 9/26/2012 9:27am
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Think you guys are all forgetting Barcia is the honeybadger... And... [img]https://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i57/5/9/14/frabz-HONEY-BADGER-DOESNT-GIVE-A-FUCK-So-stop-thinking-it-does-cca29c.jpg[/img]
Think you guys are all forgetting Barcia is the honeybadger...

And...

Wink Smile
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DJL52 9/26/2012 9:30am
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Haha..true. My bad.
DirtBikeRider 9/26/2012 9:41am
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yeah barcia looks fast in that video, but that looks flat compeared to what lommel will be like ! i doubt he will be going into corners that fast and sitting down, if he does i bet he will be hurting in the morning from a dead arse ! if you watch herlings hes up on the pegs every where, he knows how to really ride the sand and make it look easy and smooth, where as barcia is just pinning it and hoping he doesnt get spat off his bike.

I've got money on barcia coming off a gooden !
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lucero10x wrote:
*2 I actually hope Herlings smokes everyone so we don't have to be on 24 hr. suicide watch for every vital member with a location not...
*2

I actually hope Herlings smokes everyone so we don't have to be on 24 hr. suicide watch for every vital member with a location not listed as USA.
Luckily my location is USA Smile
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lucero10x wrote:
*2 I actually hope Herlings smokes everyone so we don't have to be on 24 hr. suicide watch for every vital member with a location not...
*2

I actually hope Herlings smokes everyone so we don't have to be on 24 hr. suicide watch for every vital member with a location not listed as USA.
mccread wrote:
Luckily my location is USA Smile
See! it's just a messy situation and there is no way we would be able to keep all the correct parties on suicide watch. Wink
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HenryA wrote:
Heard a rumor about Jeffrey Herlings is shitting his pants for this weekend?
BWRAAP wrote:
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him.. Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking...
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him..

Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking of back to back moto's).. Haulings is above that pace.. not even getting sweaty..

Damn i'm a proud dutch man
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which you all said Roczen was going to kill, Herlings may beat Barcia, but I guarantee you Barcia will keep the pace, no problem and the US will win the overall, this is a team race.
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HenryA wrote:
Heard a rumor about Jeffrey Herlings is shitting his pants for this weekend?
BWRAAP wrote:
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him.. Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking...
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him..

Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking of back to back moto's).. Haulings is above that pace.. not even getting sweaty..

Damn i'm a proud dutch man
MBBadgers wrote:
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which...
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which you all said Roczen was going to kill, Herlings may beat Barcia, but I guarantee you Barcia will keep the pace, no problem and the US will win the overall, this is a team race.
actually Barica got second and lead the most laps(not that they hand out a trophy for that).......
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jamma10 9/26/2012 10:15am
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Dirtysmile56 wrote:
There is essentially no spectating at Lommel. After getting bored watching one corner if you can squeeze to the fence for a while, you retreat to...
There is essentially no spectating at Lommel. After getting bored watching one corner if you can squeeze to the fence for a while, you retreat to the infield and watch the race on the jumbo tron. The track is essentially a parking lot track (it's actually a vacant industrial lot in the middle of an active industrial park) with deep sand. I have no idea why it was chosen as a MX Des Nations track other than the perceived disadvantage to team USA ? I happened to be in the area in 09 during the GP and took my son, we were stoked to finally go see the Euro boys do their thing but were severely disappointed with the lack of spectating.
Here is the best spectating at Lommel


The sand gets pretty bad well into the moto



Again best view of the track
https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/26/IMG_3165_71709.JPG" class="img-fluid" />

The fans in Euro are awesome, some crazy Brits Smile


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I don't think it was chosen deliberately to unsettle the American riders, you could say the European riders were at a disadvantage at ThunderValley.

Lommel was chosen because its different and challenging, there are usually two or three sand tracks on the GP schedule, they're all very varied. So its hardly something out of the ordinary, it just so happens that the MXSports opt for a different style of track in general, thats all.
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MBBadgers 9/26/2012 10:20am
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BWRAAP wrote:
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him.. Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking...
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him..

Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking of back to back moto's).. Haulings is above that pace.. not even getting sweaty..

Damn i'm a proud dutch man
MBBadgers wrote:
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which...
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which you all said Roczen was going to kill, Herlings may beat Barcia, but I guarantee you Barcia will keep the pace, no problem and the US will win the overall, this is a team race.
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actually Barica got second and lead the most laps(not that they hand out a trophy for that).......
Thank you for the correction...Barcia got 2nd in the mx nationals and can keep the pace BWRAAP.
Dirtysmile56 9/26/2012 10:32am
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jamma10 wrote:
I don't think it was chosen deliberately to unsettle the American riders, you could say the European riders were at a disadvantage at ThunderValley. Lommel was...
I don't think it was chosen deliberately to unsettle the American riders, you could say the European riders were at a disadvantage at ThunderValley.

Lommel was chosen because its different and challenging, there are usually two or three sand tracks on the GP schedule, they're all very varied. So its hardly something out of the ordinary, it just so happens that the MXSports opt for a different style of track in general, thats all.
I'm not big on conspiracy theories so I agree that it probably wasn't some scheme to dethrone USA. It just seems like an odd place to hold the Des Nations or even an Mx GP for that matter ,especially given all the epic Euro tracks available. I was not a fan at all of the Des Nations being at Thunder Valley either , I would have rather seen it happen at a more classic scenic facility like Unadilla , Red Bud,Budds(again), or one of the PA tracks.
FoxPlatinum_12 9/26/2012 10:32am
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watson wrote:
I've never understood how to get this keen eye on telling if someone is faster than someone else in a youtube video of them riding alone...
I've never understood how to get this keen eye on telling if someone is faster than someone else in a youtube video of them riding alone, or practicing with some other riders, but both riders of course will be on different tracks... special glasses? Lasik?


And lol at the guy making a big deal about Roczen passing Barcia in practice Woohoo
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https://youtu.be/d29VsG35DQM
Haha exactly. Barcia does look pretty awesome in that vid and even if it's a lot flatter than Lommel on race day, he's still gonna be quick! As has been said before, a fast rider is a fast rider, no matter what. I watch the mxon to see great racing between some of the best riders in the world, who we would not normally see race each other - and if team GB could make the podium that would be good Smile
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HenryA wrote:
Heard a rumor about Jeffrey Herlings is shitting his pants for this weekend?
chrisbuehler wrote:
Confirmed my friend
Barcia goes fast but is riding to "risky". If he rides Lommel like in the movie then Lommel will bite him in the ass!
He is using his legs, feet, body because otherwise he goes down... You can't do that in Lommel! I saw allot of great riders trying it that way!

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Dirtysmile56 9/26/2012 11:03am
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TDeath21 wrote:
https://youtu.be/d29VsG35DQM
That was fuggin hilarious !! Smile

I think Alan and T Death got their point across, Brilliant response to the Roczen practice pass hype Smile
I'm still laughing about that vid Smile
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Huckster 9/26/2012 11:06am
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I see Kehoe there and it looks like Mike Tomlin isnt so is Justin offically part of the American Honda factory team now and are they supporting this effort over there? Is FC involved at all?
St Ann More 9/26/2012 11:06am
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Barcia looks good, the whole of Team USA look good... i'm confident they'll win because as a team, they're tough to beat!
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BWRAAP 9/26/2012 11:10am
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HenryA wrote:
Heard a rumor about Jeffrey Herlings is shitting his pants for this weekend?
BWRAAP wrote:
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him.. Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking...
You've heard the wrong story.. he pissed his pants.. laughing was getting the best of him..

Barcia can not hold that pace/ style without crashing (speaking of back to back moto's).. Haulings is above that pace.. not even getting sweaty..

Damn i'm a proud dutch man
MBBadgers wrote:
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which...
What baffles me is the fact you refer to Barcia as not being able to keep the pace, he just got 3rd in the nationals, which you all said Roczen was going to kill, Herlings may beat Barcia, but I guarantee you Barcia will keep the pace, no problem and the US will win the overall, this is a team race.
I've seen all the nationals, you don't need to tell me how badass Barcia can ride a dirtbike. He's showing it in the posted movie.. But just LOOK at that 28 second movie.. the pace is great.. but in the sand you have to save some energy.. THAT pace on Lommel is gonna kill him.. Nobody can ride a dirtbike, in Lommel, 30+2L, like he did that 28 seconds..
Finnish_Flash_62 9/26/2012 11:36am
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Goat Kreations wrote:
https://youtu.be/283sEAxK2oU?list=UUF3xDLvgKlBkmVWdpmHXP_A&hl=en_US
Dirtysmile56 wrote:
Holy Shit! Barcia is hauling the mail! Can he run that pace for an entire moto? If so, I don't see any problems running with the...
Holy Shit! Barcia is hauling the mail! Can he run that pace for an entire moto? If so, I don't see any problems running with the top Euro sand kings.
Holy Shit! Can he complete an entire moto without having a massive crash? Whistling just what I thought after seeing that vid, I'm not saying he doesn't look fast
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edgo897 9/26/2012 11:45am
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This yak about our guys not standing in the corners is a joke. If the corners are so whooped out that they have to stand then I'll guarantee you they'll be standing and on the gas.
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edgo897 9/26/2012 12:11pm
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If the Euros were racing the US would kick their ass too. Why aren't they sending a team?
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Denn700 9/26/2012 12:34pm
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Why don't you GP guys pick 3 guys from your series and we will pick 3 guys from the AMA. We can do this every year but that means we get Roczen and anyone else riding in the AMA that year. Actually, Roczen raced a GP so we can both count him if we choose. Wink . Same rules with a throw away race an everything.
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Denn700 wrote:
Why don't you GP guys pick 3 guys from your series and we will pick 3 guys from the AMA. We can do this every year...
Why don't you GP guys pick 3 guys from your series and we will pick 3 guys from the AMA. We can do this every year but that means we get Roczen and anyone else riding in the AMA that year. Actually, Roczen raced a GP so we can both count him if we choose. Wink . Same rules with a throw away race an everything.
That might be interesting.
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Denn700 wrote:
Why don't you GP guys pick 3 guys from your series and we will pick 3 guys from the AMA. We can do this every year...
Why don't you GP guys pick 3 guys from your series and we will pick 3 guys from the AMA. We can do this every year but that means we get Roczen and anyone else riding in the AMA that year. Actually, Roczen raced a GP so we can both count him if we choose. Wink . Same rules with a throw away race an everything.
F that. We take 3 Americans and beat whoever the heck they want.
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KlootZak 9/26/2012 12:49pm
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Actually, Everts said Herlings was the best sand rider ever. That means Herlings is better than Everts. And Everts LAPPED RC during the MXoN in '98. From my calculations that means Herlings would LAP RC 2 times in Lommel ...

true story!
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KlootZak wrote:
Actually, Everts said Herlings was the best sand rider ever. That means Herlings is better than Everts. And Everts LAPPED RC during the MXoN in '98...
Actually, Everts said Herlings was the best sand rider ever. That means Herlings is better than Everts. And Everts LAPPED RC during the MXoN in '98. From my calculations that means Herlings would LAP RC 2 times in Lommel ...

true story!

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