WMA and the return of 4-stroke nationals??

Shawn142
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Edited Date/Time 12/22/2012 10:02am
Wut?

www.4strokenationals.com

Website claims the 4-Stroke Nationals are making a comeback for 2013 and it will run along with the WMA. The part in red on the main page talks about the WMA either being reduced or cut out of the outdoor nationals all together next year.
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jndmx
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9/20/2012 9:03am
I thought the plan was for the WMX to run on Amatuer day from now on......
pete24
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9/20/2012 9:07am
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
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9/20/2012 9:16am
So it's "4-stroke Nationals" but "We've invited all 2-stroke pros"????? Seems like an identity crisis to me.
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9/20/2012 9:17am
pete24 wrote:
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
yep

i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke.

i went to one and thought, no way i could put up with listening to that more than once...

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9/20/2012 9:27am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2012 9:27am
I remember the four stroke nationals. bleh. 2 stroke nationals are VERY obvious right now.
9/20/2012 9:51am
pete24 wrote:
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
Yea, a guy from Minnesota on a KTM just won it.
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9/20/2012 12:06pm
pete24 wrote:
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
peelout wrote:
yep i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke. i went to one and thought, no way i could put up...
yep

i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke.

i went to one and thought, no way i could put up with listening to that more than once...
i remember also, now its turned into a nightmare
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9/20/2012 1:27pm
pete24 wrote:
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
peelout wrote:
yep i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke. i went to one and thought, no way i could put up...
yep

i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke.

i went to one and thought, no way i could put up with listening to that more than once...
Boy that's the truth Peelout. I did the same thing and came away with the same results you did, haha!
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9/20/2012 6:36pm
pete24 wrote:
other than Ryann Stacy and Ricky Renner, we already have 4 stroke nationals
peelout wrote:
yep i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke. i went to one and thought, no way i could put up...
yep

i remember the 4-stroke nationals back in the day, they were a joke.

i went to one and thought, no way i could put up with listening to that more than once...
its the same guy too...

I had the "pleasure" of talking to him at Elsinore...

Well more like he talked and I tried to ignore him.

All tallk... Very doubtful they will become anything unless he puts up aloooootttt of money.
9/20/2012 9:08pm
Don't be an idiot and knock this. This series brings extremely talented riders (maybe not top tier, but very good) to places that may not get to see races of this level. Arizona doesn't get an AMA outdoor but it use to be (and apparently is again) home to one of these events and I saw, Dusty Klatt, Chris Blose, kyle Partridge, Justin Buckelew and Ted Campbell and quite a few others race here. I hope it become a mainstay once again.
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9/20/2012 9:19pm
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good promoter.

How can you be against a man who is trying to bring more money to our sport?
9/20/2012 11:07pm
slipdog wrote:
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good...
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good promoter.

How can you be against a man who is trying to bring more money to our sport?
Nail on the head slippy.
12/20/2012 5:42pm
slipdog wrote:
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good...
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good promoter.

How can you be against a man who is trying to bring more money to our sport?
Nail on the head slippy.
Don Schneider is a scam artist he stole $2000 From My company but doctoring my invoices for my clients I know he owes a lot of pro's in the Northwest Money from the last time he put this series on and now looks like he got $4500 from Jonah at ET motopark in Arizona. He will not work anywhere in the northwest in this industry if I can Help it.
12/20/2012 5:46pm
slipdog wrote:
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good...
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good promoter.

How can you be against a man who is trying to bring more money to our sport?
You will never get the money he is a scam artist
12/20/2012 5:49pm
Holy Old Thread Batman!
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12/20/2012 8:47pm
HA!....Awesome! A good alternate series for the boys to make some money. I should call up Corder and metzler and tell them to wipe the dust off their boots and go make some money!

The 4 stroke nationals were great as far as I'm concerned. Watched some epic races go down over the years.
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12/20/2012 9:20pm
slipdog wrote:
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good...
The "Snide" is one of the most hardcore moto guys you will ever meet. Yes he talks a lot, but that what makes him a good promoter.

How can you be against a man who is trying to bring more money to our sport?
Nail on the head slippy.
Don Schneider is a scam artist he stole $2000 From My company but doctoring my invoices for my clients I know he owes a lot of...
Don Schneider is a scam artist he stole $2000 From My company but doctoring my invoices for my clients I know he owes a lot of pro's in the Northwest Money from the last time he put this series on and now looks like he got $4500 from Jonah at ET motopark in Arizona. He will not work anywhere in the northwest in this industry if I can Help it.
Weird.....I know a good 20 dudes that raced the series including a couple of the champions.....and not one of them ever mentioned this. Sounds like something that should have gone to court.....why didn't it?
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12/21/2012 6:04am
Well, it sounds a little out of touch. The guy seems to have some gumption, but I can't imagine anyone seriously committing to this, especially if this guy is known as a scam artist.
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12/21/2012 6:22am
I went to Lake Whitney and watched a round of the 4 Stroke Nats. Thought it was a pretty cool event and enjoyed seeing some of the trickery that was creeping out of the woodwork back then. Just too bad that the displacement rules were so poorly written and the homologation rules so skewed towards the Big 4 that the sport as a whole got dryfucked into what it is today.
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12/21/2012 6:30am
He actually has a good idea of making an Open class, but needs the other two - 250 and 125 class, regardless of stroke.
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12/22/2012 10:02am
4 stroke nationals? WTF is the point? stupid.

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