Why can't I respect Alessi as a racer?

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Edited Date/Time 8/22/2012 5:58am
Moto 2 first left hand turn. Tickle pushes Alessi wide going into it so Alessi goes inside the barrier and barrel, making no attempt to stay on the track and comes out ahead of Tickle. Tickle would have had the pass if Joelessi ((c) BROtocross) hadn't cheated.

Props to Chiz who went wide to but did not follow. Got back on the track and raced.
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8/21/2012 9:50am
Cue the BobbyM hate in 3...2...1...
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Hard for me to get past this....
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simple really...you have to respect yerself before you respect others. and it helps to actually know how to ride a scooter real fast with skill and deft.
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8/21/2012 9:57am
BD49 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/08/21/alessicheats_749194.jpg[/img] Hard for me to get past this....


Hard for me to get past this....
You're probably angry at the British about their taxes on tea, too. Smile

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8/21/2012 10:06am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2012 10:07am
BD49 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/08/21/alessicheats_749194.jpg[/img] Hard for me to get past this....


Hard for me to get past this....
16 year old kid with the weight of the world (at least the world he knew)on his shoulders doing something stupid? I don't have too much problem getting past it. It was dumb and I'm sure he gets reminded of it often.
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8/21/2012 10:11am
I don't think Alessi is really all that bad. I respect any of these pro riders. People get way to caught up in the dislike for riders. The fact of the matter is this.. MA800 is one of the fastest and baddest guys on a dirtbike in the WORLD. I am by no means an Alessi fan. However, I feel that if you want to not respect him as a person (if you know him enough to do so), then so be it. Not respecting him as a racer is just plain silly.
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8/21/2012 10:12am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2012 10:18am
I was thoroughly impressed with how mature MA800 was in his interview after his DNF....

Just curious if anybody else on this forum has ever been an 18 year old "kid" that was expect to set the MX world on fire..... I'd imagine the stresses associated with that would be hard to deal with. Look at JLaw....
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8/21/2012 10:12am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2012 10:13am
You guys are always going to find something you can't get over, sometimes I think some of the people who post here are still whiny high school girls.
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8/21/2012 10:15am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2012 10:17am
Beats me. The guy is fast and works his ass off and wants to win. Is he perfect? No, but we're all flawed. I'm pretty sure we could pick out unsavory moments on the track for just about everyone.

Now, granted, I don't have a lot of knowledge about amateur days drama, but that's ancient history.
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8/21/2012 10:22am
Someone getting pushed wide during a start when the entire pack is going WFO and they don't adhere 100% to the track markers and don't shutoff??? Say it ain't so!!!!

Watch any of the starts from Unadilla and you will see about 1/3 of the pack drift wide in the 1st turn and go outside the yellow markers and not 1 of them shuts off.
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FGR01 wrote:
Someone getting pushed wide during a start when the entire pack is going WFO and they don't adhere 100% to the track markers and don't shutoff...
Someone getting pushed wide during a start when the entire pack is going WFO and they don't adhere 100% to the track markers and don't shutoff??? Say it ain't so!!!!

Watch any of the starts from Unadilla and you will see about 1/3 of the pack drift wide in the 1st turn and go outside the yellow markers and not 1 of them shuts off.
Im talking about the second turn ( a left hander), not the start turn.
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8/21/2012 10:29am
mtl wrote:
Moto 2 first left hand turn. Tickle pushes Alessi wide going into it so Alessi goes inside the barrier and barrel, making no attempt to stay...
Moto 2 first left hand turn. Tickle pushes Alessi wide going into it so Alessi goes inside the barrier and barrel, making no attempt to stay on the track and comes out ahead of Tickle. Tickle would have had the pass if Joelessi ((c) BROtocross) hadn't cheated.

Props to Chiz who went wide to but did not follow. Got back on the track and raced.
Joelessi. That's cute. Did you make that up, or are you just repeating what someone else wrote?
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You guys are always going to find something you can't get over, sometimes I think some of the people who post here are still whiny high...
You guys are always going to find something you can't get over, sometimes I think some of the people who post here are still whiny high school girls.
Jeff, He's your brother so you support him no matter what and I understand that.

If that wasn't your brother would you be saying the same thing?

I watched it a few times and he had plenty of room to get back on the track.
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8/21/2012 10:45am
mtl wrote:
Moto 2 first left hand turn. Tickle pushes Alessi wide going into it so Alessi goes inside the barrier and barrel, making no attempt to stay...
Moto 2 first left hand turn. Tickle pushes Alessi wide going into it so Alessi goes inside the barrier and barrel, making no attempt to stay on the track and comes out ahead of Tickle. Tickle would have had the pass if Joelessi ((c) BROtocross) hadn't cheated.

Props to Chiz who went wide to but did not follow. Got back on the track and raced.
lucero10x wrote:
Joelessi. That's cute. Did you make that up, or are you just repeating what someone else wrote?
He ripped it off from Brotocross.
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Both of the Alessi's took time out of their schedule to stop and talk to my kids and sign a few autographs a few years back while they were headed across the pits in Freestone.

Mike hung around the MXdN VIP tent and signed autographs with Cairoli for a long time after the US team got shuffled away after only about ten minutes. Youthstream made some big promises and failed to deliver. Mike wasn't part of it, yet he hung out and made a bunch of fans and delivered a little bit of what Youthstream failed to.
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Beats me. The guy is fast and works his ass off and wants to win. Is he perfect? No, but we're all flawed. I'm pretty sure...
Beats me. The guy is fast and works his ass off and wants to win. Is he perfect? No, but we're all flawed. I'm pretty sure we could pick out unsavory moments on the track for just about everyone.

Now, granted, I don't have a lot of knowledge about amateur days drama, but that's ancient history.
bullshit...i never did anything stupid on the track and was always a perfect gentleman.


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8/21/2012 10:49am
newmann wrote:
Both of the Alessi's took time out of their schedule to stop and talk to my kids and sign a few autographs a few years back...
Both of the Alessi's took time out of their schedule to stop and talk to my kids and sign a few autographs a few years back while they were headed across the pits in Freestone.

Mike hung around the MXdN VIP tent and signed autographs with Cairoli for a long time after the US team got shuffled away after only about ten minutes. Youthstream made some big promises and failed to deliver. Mike wasn't part of it, yet he hung out and made a bunch of fans and delivered a little bit of what Youthstream failed to.
Mike spent a good portion of HIS time at Spring Creek this year judging little tracks that the kids were building in the sand.
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Good kid, hard worker, just pulls some BS moves while racing. Will do anything to win and to hug 2nd place after!
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8/21/2012 10:59am
Alessi has earned respect this year.
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You guys are always going to find something you can't get over, sometimes I think some of the people who post here are still whiny high...
You guys are always going to find something you can't get over, sometimes I think some of the people who post here are still whiny high school girls.
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Jeff, He's your brother so you support him no matter what and I understand that. If that wasn't your brother would you be saying the same...
Jeff, He's your brother so you support him no matter what and I understand that.

If that wasn't your brother would you be saying the same thing?

I watched it a few times and he had plenty of room to get back on the track.
I know why he did it, the whole pack leans left coming into that corner and usually the guy on the inside gets tangled into the banners and crashes and causes a huge pile up, he avoided CAUSING a disaster. it was questionable going left but the consequences of not making that move would of been far worse, no one crashed and the race was still good was it not? Ask yourself who was close to mike and Ryan that second Moto? Would it have made a difference? Maybe. We will never know. Good day guys.
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8/21/2012 11:00am
hasko158 wrote:
Good kid, hard worker, just pulls some BS moves while racing. Will do anything to win and to hug 2nd place after!
Gotta admit, he protected his line. Can't blame him for that. If Dungey had him covered, it should have been an easy pass. Guess those top guys really mean it when they say the track was one lined.
8/21/2012 11:04am
Because he is Alessi. Lol.
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IMHO, Mike has done some dumb stuff over the years. He probably may even wish he could take back some of the things he has done, most noticeably the Tedesco incident. However, he is young. I doubt any of us were in possession of all the knowledge to be the perfect human at 18 years old. We've all done stupid shit as kids. Myself included, and the shit that was amusing then is almost embarrassing now. I'm sure Mike may look back years from now, chuckle, and say to himself WTF?
I wish sometimes he would quit looking back, trying to be a roadblock, and just look forward. However, he did win a moto at Washougal, and that's all the record books will say. Not HOW he won it.
Say what you want, but the speed and results he's pulling off on privateer equipment are impressive. Yes, maybe if everyone else was healthy he wouldn't be that high in the pecking order. As the old saying goes, "You have to be in it to win it". He is.
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8/21/2012 11:18am
Mike is growing up, and learning by the same school most of us were taught in.. School of hard knocks.

I only see these professionals once or twice a year. Got to know a little about Mike and the clan while they worked at Millville a few years back.

One thing I'll say is, Mike did a great job of interacting with his fans on a Thursday night during a track building contest by the creek that runs through the track. While most of the other top pro's were snugged in their home away from home, he was out judging tracks that kids built in the sand and make that activity something special by not rushing through it.

It would be a good lesson for some of the other top riders in the sport to learn from. The fans are what makes them big. Once you get too busy for them, you've fallen away from the real meaning of why you do what you do...

I have respect for all the riders following the circiut, trying to scratch out a living from something they love.
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8/21/2012 11:28am
Alessi is bad ass... he provides us fans with some awkward moments, but we all should appreciate the excitement. Washougal, I don't remember him holding off Dungey, I remember the goofy handshake afterward. He is polarizing, but I think that's what we like. As far as 'respect as a racer', I seriously doubt he even cares what we think, and I actually hope he doesn't care, and continues to do his thing. You can disrespect a few things he's done, but come on now... f-in dude rips and deserves props.
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8/21/2012 11:37am
The reason is likely the same reason as mine:
He's on somewhat thin ice, albeit that ice is growing thicker every weekend.

I am not a huge Alessi fan, but he has grown on me this year. His humility has been great to witness and he seems a bit more grounded than in years past. People slam him for his blabbering podium speeches, but I really like them. Honestly, I'll fast forward through about everyone else's broken record on the podium and listen to his.

He definitely has a past, and he works on moving past that and making people forget about it, and then he will do something (ie: brake checking at Millville, cross jumping at Hangtown, etc...) that keeps making an impact on his efforts. It seems to be 3 steps forward and 2 steps back for Alessi.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I would kill to do what Alessi is doing for a living. I would kill to have his skills on a bike. He doesn't have to worry about my opinion of him or anyone else's.
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8/21/2012 11:37am
I like Mike. I know that's a stupid statement cause I don't "know" him. Only met him once for less than a minute. But that was enough to outweigh the negative stuff I had read about him. Go figger.
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Get over it. They have to make a split second decision, one that could decide the entire race.

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