Scariest bike (dirt) you've ever ridden?

catatonic
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4/24/2012 3:30am
early 80's cr 480.
It was clapped out and had no brakes.
Gazza
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4/24/2012 4:33am
Shineray XY250 (The POS touted as China's best MX bike).

I got to ride one at the Shineray factory in China. It was pretty cool coming into the factory, the buildings where massively impressive, there was a row of GP style transporters, and a massive MX track out front. I met a few of their engineers and they talked about having me do a couple races for them, was all pretty exciting.

Then we head to the track and I notice that it's atrocious up close, terrible dirt poorly maintained and just in general incredibly unsafe looking, in terms of the shapes of the take offs and landings. Then they wheel out the bike for me and I had to hold off a look of disgust, it had broken front and rear fenders, snapped levers and slightly bent bars. They then inform me that it's running a rear spring that's 25% stiffer than usual, it's a linkage free rear end but there is nothing progressive about the set up.

So I head out on track with a suspect Chinese helmet, it was a real struggle to lift the front end up, I guess a combination of being too stiff in the rear, excess weight and lack of power. So I skipped a few of the jumps first time round, not confident in the bike to get me over them. Apparently I tried the biggest jump at some point, all I recall is coming to while standing in a circle of Chinese talking away, a good 15 or so minutes later, none of them seemed to realise I was on another planet! I was in a world of confusion, having just moved to China "Where am I? What language? What am I doing?..." Turned out I couldn't get the front up high enough and was piledriven into the ground.

Definitely worst bike I could even imagine. Putting aside the fact that it weighed significantly more than a 450, the real kicker is the fact that the engineers stated that power from the engines fresh off the production line varied between 17 and 22kW! How the HELL do you get so much variance in engine performance off a production line?!!!
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4/24/2012 4:48am
drmarkr wrote:
You guys posting modern day bikes are a laugh....and an AF500?? Geez... The correct answer, Alex, is a TM400....the only bike you could crash on riding...
You guys posting modern day bikes are a laugh....and an AF500?? Geez...

The correct answer, Alex, is a TM400....the only bike you could crash on riding in a straight line on flat ground.
The first bike I ever rode by myself was a TM400. I'd sit in front of my Dad and he'd pass control over to me and step off the back. I never crashed that TM400. Probably started my fascination with big bore bikes. It's most likely the setup but my buddies Gen 4 AF500 is a dangerous hunk of shit. Too much power in too short and too tall of a chassis. I felt like I was riding a unicycle with an Acme rocket and a supermoto disc brake tied to the wheel. As a little kid, I felt safer on the TM400.
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4/24/2012 5:00am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2012 5:01am
1980 Yamaha IT465 (I Think) that I raced one time in 1984.

I was racing the 125 class and thought it was a cool idea to ride the Open class as well. The bike was a loaner from a guy who worked for my Grandfather. I basically picked it up Saturday without ever riding it before and headed to the track Sunday morning. All I did is slap numbers on it.

Bad idea.

It weighted twice as much as my 125, handled like a wagon, suspension was never set up for me, and was way too much bike for me at the time.

I putted around for two motos.

Waste of time, and put a quick end to trying to be "cool" as a kid racing the open class.

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4/24/2012 5:03am
Mine was my 1996 YZ 125. While the bike itself was good, the transmission had problems and if you cased a jump it came apart. It tossed me twice before I decided it had to go.
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4/24/2012 5:17am
For me, it was back in the day when my friend offered me a ride on his new (used) Suzuki TM400. That was a bike I...
For me, it was back in the day when my friend offered me a ride on his new (used) Suzuki TM400. That was a bike I had no desire to ever rider again! I rode 2 laps and told him, "sweet bike, I wish I had one"! NOT!!!!

How about your sketchiest ride?
I will agree with you on the TM400. I had 4 of them and they could become a handfull real quick that is why I always said the things (cyclone widow maker) did not really need a twist trottle but a light switch instead. Motor wise pretty decent but everything else was pretty Sketchy at best.
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4/24/2012 5:31am
THIS!





This one isn't mine but I had one exactly like it minus the orange frame. Extensively ported, 46mm Lectron carbed, fire breathing, bucking bull of a motorcycle. Ladies and Gentlemen, the 1995-1996 KTM 550.

The damned thing made more power than the clutch could handle so I had to run super heavy springs in the clutch. This in turn caused the pressure plate to warp when the lever was pulled in. It was impossible to get the clutch to fully disengage if you had a finger between the lever and the bar. This meant that at launch time you had to drop the clutch and regrip the bar while it was dumping 90hp of big bore two strokeness to the back tire. The scary part was when the back tire would go from looking like a Top Fueler in the burnout pit to FULLY hooked up within 1/100th of a second while I was trying to regrip.

The motor far exceeded any sort of suspension components from the era and I was positive that I was going to bust the big bastard in half at most of the races we attended together. I'll never forget the way that damned thing ran although the rest of the bike was a piece of shit. Even as a hillclimber it constantly had some damn thing broken or falling off of it.

After 3 years and countless victories I decided it was time for us to part ways while I was still able to walk and talk.
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4/24/2012 5:35am
APLMAN99 wrote:
[img]http://kellymotodepoca.com/images/83-ktm-495-1.jpg[/img]
You ain't man enough to start that bike let alone ride it. Woohoo
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4/24/2012 5:43am
reded wrote:
THIS! [img]http://images2.classifiedads.com/large/10002414_UBy1gw.jpg[/img] [img]http://images2.classifiedads.com/large/10002414_yO4igw.jpg[/img] This one isn't mine but I had one exactly like it minus the orange frame. Extensively ported, 46mm Lectron carbed, fire breathing, bucking...
THIS!





This one isn't mine but I had one exactly like it minus the orange frame. Extensively ported, 46mm Lectron carbed, fire breathing, bucking bull of a motorcycle. Ladies and Gentlemen, the 1995-1996 KTM 550.

The damned thing made more power than the clutch could handle so I had to run super heavy springs in the clutch. This in turn caused the pressure plate to warp when the lever was pulled in. It was impossible to get the clutch to fully disengage if you had a finger between the lever and the bar. This meant that at launch time you had to drop the clutch and regrip the bar while it was dumping 90hp of big bore two strokeness to the back tire. The scary part was when the back tire would go from looking like a Top Fueler in the burnout pit to FULLY hooked up within 1/100th of a second while I was trying to regrip.

The motor far exceeded any sort of suspension components from the era and I was positive that I was going to bust the big bastard in half at most of the races we attended together. I'll never forget the way that damned thing ran although the rest of the bike was a piece of shit. Even as a hillclimber it constantly had some damn thing broken or falling off of it.

After 3 years and countless victories I decided it was time for us to part ways while I was still able to walk and talk.
The KTM 550 had a hair over 60 HP.
4/24/2012 5:58am
Deetsmx wrote:
2003 ktm 250sx
I had one of those 2003 KTm 250SX's. That thing was a jackhammer with a light switch, sick fast power band. It was hideous. Almost unrideable. That took arm pump to a level that I didnt think was possible. Seriously, my forearms hurt for two months after one race.
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4/24/2012 6:18am
CR500Rider wrote:
The KTM 550 had a hair over 60 HP.
Stock. Easy to get big power from it as it was choked down in stock form.
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4/24/2012 6:19am
1981 CR 250 Honda-1st year of the pro link. I will also 2nd the early 2000 year KTM 250. Rode one, not sure of the year, but it was fucking terrible.
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4/24/2012 6:29am
I had a 550 and loved it. I also always loved my Kawasaki 500's but if I remember correctly, the 550 had more and smoother power. The chassis was pretty good too.

The only bike that ever really scared me was a Husaberg FE450. The bike was great 99% of the time, then you'd find yourself violently tumbling accross the ground. I had three big crashes on that bike and couldn't figure out why any of them had happened. Not willing to take a chance on a fourth I had to let her go.
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4/24/2012 6:30am
1997 CR 250
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4/24/2012 6:52am
I had this 1981 Maico 490 bike for less than 6 months...shaked like hell and went where it wanted to go.....Scary to fix also.
And maybe the shitiest was a Carabela Centauro 360.
4/24/2012 6:56am
very close call between the 2003 ktm 250sx and the 1997 cr 250! Both were complete animals! Thankfully I never actually owned either one of these hideous machines- just tried out friends bikes. I'd be interested to see both of these bikes (from new) on a dyno against the newer 250 2 strokes and 450s- i bet the peak power figures would be impressive!
4/24/2012 6:57am
A 2005 KX250 that Boyesen bought from us to do Motor testing for Kawi. they modded the motor then sent it for Stewart and Burner to test. apparently they loved it. the motor was sent back and put back in the KX. the bike was never ridden. Mr Boyesen brought it back in for me to sell on consignment. i rode it across our field and almost fell the fuck off !!! INSANE hit and incredible power. by far the fastest (and scariest) MX bike i have ever ridden. that was the year Stewart cam back from a wrist injury and was holeshoting SX races with the same motor design. great work as always by Boyesen Engineering.
I sold it to a customer who raced in my class, he would get Monster holeshots and check out till he got tired from the power and faded like a cheap suit. bike was crazy !!!
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4/24/2012 7:01am
Had an '87 CR500 that I pulled in front of a car on (crossing a street). It was going about 40. I got on it and it did a wheely, spun the tire, and skidded like that for about 50 feet with the wheel spinning. It was pretty hairy.
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4/24/2012 7:01am
I had a 1989 CR250 that was the first year for inverted forks. It was incredibly fast but suffered from terrible headshake, which would show up unpredictably in 4th or 5th gear pinned sections of the track. That bike should have come with a set of brown riding pants when you bought it.
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4/24/2012 7:02am
newmann wrote:
I rode a 1975 Yamaha MX400 about 100 yards that I got in a trade and decided that was enough for me. Nothing on earth should...
I rode a 1975 Yamaha MX400 about 100 yards that I got in a trade and decided that was enough for me. Nothing on earth should be allowed to be so heavy and vibrate so much and only have a few inches of horrible suspension. What a pile of shit. My sincerest apologies to mx400bee here on vital.

That exact bike is the first thing that came to mind when i read the title of this post. I rode one for three minutes and told the guy he was nuts to own it.
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4/24/2012 7:04am
1980 something DR100.....Freggen thing caught on fire while I was riding it, burnt my pants. Also 1986 CR500, why on earth would something be so fast!
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4/24/2012 7:06am
2000 RM250, completely unpredictable chassis, and a hard hitting motor made for some interesting times. I'm just glad to have survived it
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4/24/2012 7:09am
For me, it was back in the day when my friend offered me a ride on his new (used) Suzuki TM400. That was a bike I...
For me, it was back in the day when my friend offered me a ride on his new (used) Suzuki TM400. That was a bike I had no desire to ever rider again! I rode 2 laps and told him, "sweet bike, I wish I had one"! NOT!!!!

How about your sketchiest ride?
Totally TOTALLY agree here on the TM400. It definitely was the scariest bikes I ever rode. It was ill handling & had a light switch type of power & a lot of it too & the brakes sucked also :-( I was racing Husky's in the middle to late 70's & my buddy bought a brand new TM400 & mind you it was a beauitful & I couldn't wait to ride & I rode it maybe 2-3 laps & couldn't wait to give it back to him.
4/24/2012 7:13am
It would be a tie, between my 92 and 95 Kx 250's. They handled well but Kawie was so generous to me and installed extra nuetrals in both of those bikes. I had ridden Honda's since the earth cooled and the Kawi dealer I worked for didn't like that. I bought the 92 and promply knocked myself silly upon 'coasting' a uphill launch the usually required 4th not nuetral. It took him three years to make me feel guilty enough to buy another one. Third time out nuetral on face of a double luckily I took most of the impact on the shoulder and missed only a couple of days of work. My boss allowed me to switch back to Hondas. To this day I am gun shy to swing a leg over any Kawasaki.
4/24/2012 7:25am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2012 7:25am
Maico 490, i weighed approx. 9stone and was 14, I had a go for fun as a temporary swap @ a track while my mate rode my double twanger air shocked kx125, I couldn't wait to give it back - damn thing would not keep the front wheel on the ground.
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4/24/2012 7:30am
Deetsmx wrote:
2003 ktm 250sx
catatonic wrote:
no doubt.
The 03 525 SX was worse.
Racer92
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4/24/2012 7:33am
newmann wrote:
I rode a 1975 Yamaha MX400 about 100 yards that I got in a trade and decided that was enough for me. Nothing on earth should...
I rode a 1975 Yamaha MX400 about 100 yards that I got in a trade and decided that was enough for me. Nothing on earth should be allowed to be so heavy and vibrate so much and only have a few inches of horrible suspension. What a pile of shit. My sincerest apologies to mx400bee here on vital.

I grew up on one of those, and loved every second I had it. BUT I hasten to add I havent sat on one since 1979 so my opinion at 48 probably would be different than at 16.

I can tell you this, my friends on their 80s & 100s ate a lot of 400 roost on the straight-aways though ! Tongue
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4/24/2012 7:41am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2012 7:42am
The worst bike I ever rode on a MX track was a Yamaha SC500. Inconsistent, abrupt powerband mated to a frame made out of plumbing pipe. I also once rode a Can Am Black Widow and was instantly scared shitless (although it looked awesome). I still have a 1985 CR500 that is plenty scary to ride. If you are man enough to twist the throttle, you can easily holeshot and be in the lead of any race (before you go through the fence).
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4/24/2012 7:50am
i rode a 1985 CR500 in Glamis with a sand paddle when i was about 17...my current bike was a 1998 CR125...i went about 50 yards....and once i was able to bring the front tire back to the ground, i turned it around....took it back to camp, and never even thought about riding one again....
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4/24/2012 7:52am
Heres one for you, I had a bout with a Honda Trail 70 or 90 can't remember. Oh yea you know the ones, funny shaped handle bars and balloon tires. Ring a bell? My cousin had this damn contraption back when we where maybe 12 or so yrs old and we used to ride at an old sand pit up at my grand parents place. Anyways we where out riding and he brought out that retched piece of shit. I jumped on it and he jumped on my CR 80. We get to chasing each other and now we have a full blown race going down.

Our little track ran next to a 15ft deep drainage ditch and one turn was right at the edge, you would jump this little 1ft bump then have to hit the brakes and make a 180* turn and that's were it all went south. I come in hot to that turn and start downshifting, well unlike my CR 80 the shift was 1 up 3 down and that's were it all went south. I come into the corner start downshifting and the SOB is gaining more speed! I little brain just couldn't grasp what was going down. I flew over the turn 15ft out and 15ft down to the bottom of the ditch. Sunk the trail bike and smelled like ditch water for an hour. Never rode that thing again.

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