Cost of Gas?

Tiki
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 4:50pm
Got you thinking twice about new bike, new bike hauler, racing and traveling?

Until that drops some, I think I am regulated to local trail riding unless I can fill the Motorhome for a group ride to the track.
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35smom
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6/17/2008 12:49pm
Most definately...there will be no trip to Ponca City this year!
I have a 2001 Ford F250 4 door truck that im getting rid of cause I cant even afford the gas in that!
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6/17/2008 12:51pm
Do you remember what you spent last time you went? Estimate?
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6/17/2008 12:57pm
The regional entries were down. Only three classes had qualifiers - if I recall. Last year, it was 9 or so.... I was very close to not going. Gas wasn't the main reason, but was definitely a thought. The difference from last year to this year was $100....not a deal killer, but a thought none the less.
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6/17/2008 1:02pm
I used to race every weekend, now maybe once a month. BMX has saved the day for us. Track is 5 miles away and the overall cost is a small fraction of MX.

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6/17/2008 1:07pm
I am in need of a new truck or Motorhome and am thinking I can't do it. I need to haul more load than my F150 can handle, but we need to haul a TH and 3horse trailer, at separate times. I wanted a diesel, now not so much. The cost of fuel is really changing how we approach life.
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6/17/2008 1:24pm
I'm still dumb enough to make my summer trek out to ride with my buddies in the Cali dez. Fuel's (diesel) going to cost me about $800 round trip.
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6/17/2008 1:31pm
We are all going to have to by KTM EXC's and ride them to the track.
Or some sharp track owner is going to come up with the idea to store your bike for you and then you can drive your hybrid out to the track.
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6/17/2008 1:31pm
Just a regular fill-up on the Vital MX Tacoma went from $55-60 a year ago, to about $85.
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6/17/2008 1:32pm
I've got a buddy in Florida who has a Diesel and he's driving up to Jersey in July and he said he has been making deisel fuel out of leftover restaurant cooking oil to save money on the trip up here. No lie.
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I remember when David and Gary Bailey hauled DB's bike to the Nationals behind a celica in 1980. Won't be long till i am trying to fit my KTM into a Scion.
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6/17/2008 1:36pm
mxrose3 wrote:
I've got a buddy in Florida who has a Diesel and he's driving up to Jersey in July and he said he has been making deisel...
I've got a buddy in Florida who has a Diesel and he's driving up to Jersey in July and he said he has been making deisel fuel out of leftover restaurant cooking oil to save money on the trip up here. No lie.
BioDiesel. Yeah, the government doesn't like it because they aren't taxing the hell out of it.
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6/17/2008 1:39pm
fcr wrote:
I am in need of a new truck or Motorhome and am thinking I can't do it. I need to haul more load than my F150...
I am in need of a new truck or Motorhome and am thinking I can't do it. I need to haul more load than my F150 can handle, but we need to haul a TH and 3horse trailer, at separate times. I wanted a diesel, now not so much. The cost of fuel is really changing how we approach life.
I can get you a great deal on a motorhome....
6/17/2008 1:41pm
I had to drive from L.A. (lower alabama) to Kansas City for a trade show last week. We used pulled a trailer with 2 large go-karts and 2 scooters Got ok milage and thru out the trip gas was about the same $3.85 a gallon for the most part, it was still cheaper to drive because the truck lines fuel surcharge has shipping costs go thru the roof.
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6/17/2008 1:46pm
Just wait till Natural gas and Electric take there future rise. It is on its way and the Electric is planned to double. That is a little secret that the electric companies have been keeping under there hats.

NG's demand is rising and we’re not doing anything about it just like gas. Soon the poor won't be able to afford anything then the Socialist ways will seem like a good idea. Then the government will have to step in and stop the free market in order to keep from a deep recession. A Good recession is what is needed to put the free market back inline with the pay scales.

Its all messed up and Both parties are to blame.
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6/17/2008 1:47pm
Here are some energy fun facts, and why we will never use our cars the same way again:

America is 5% of the world's population and we use 25% of the world's oil.

Amount of money America sends ANNUALLY to oil producing countries: $700 BILLION.

Amount of money America will send overseas for oil in next 20 years: $10 trillion.

In the 1960s, we imported 10% of our oil, now it's about 70%.

The world's oil fields production is declining by 8% a year, because they are running out of oil.

number of vehicles world wide using natural gas: 8 million
number of vehicles in the US using natural gas: 150,000

Our use of oil is actually declining, and has been for decades, but developing countries, mainly China, are picking up the slack.
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6/17/2008 1:49pm
Eh, even at $4 a gallon, that Castor smell from my smoker is still sweet.
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The funny thing is that Natural gas is more efficient too. The US has more than you can imagine. But they don’t want us to explore for it or tap into it. That and oil is our main fuel. You can get more electricity from NG than from coal. It burns cleaner and it is more efficient. It is just not what we are set up for.
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6/17/2008 1:54pm
I like klots mixed with VP Red.

I wish I could run a breather tube off my exhaust to the front of my bike so I could smell it. Why should everyone else get all the joy out of my toy.
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6/17/2008 1:58pm
Yep it has affected when or where I want to race, but my racing season is over for now it was 112 yesterday!

In the fall I will definately carpool to the tracks but I do that now most of the time anyway.

So it's lake time with the Seadoo's fortunately I have two lakes about 1/2 hr away.
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6/17/2008 2:00pm
This time last year I had planned on going to three Nationals, now I doubt I will even make Red Bud. Right now around here the pumps shut off at $100.00 I am still not full in my F150. My riding is down becuase the main place my group rides is like the hub, so 4-5 of us show up but can not car pool.
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6/17/2008 2:08pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 7:19pm
835 wrote:
The funny thing is that Natural gas is more efficient too. The US has more than you can imagine. But they don’t want us to explore...
The funny thing is that Natural gas is more efficient too. The US has more than you can imagine. But they don’t want us to explore for it or tap into it. That and oil is our main fuel. You can get more electricity from NG than from coal. It burns cleaner and it is more efficient. It is just not what we are set up for.
We burn about 50% coal in our power plants, but most of the new plants are NG or combined cycle. Electricity is about 22% NG-fired right now.


The auto industry and the power generation industry are incredibly slow to change and they have billions to spend in Congress.

I was at a thing with T. Boone Pickens (billionaire oil man) today- he said that back in the 70s he pushed natural gas an automotive fuel, but nobody, and I mean nobody cared about the clean burning nature of it, just the cost. What's funny is US auto makers build plenty of NG-burning cars, but they export them because there is no demand here.

Europeans have been paying high gas prices forever. When was the last time you saw a British or French guy driving a V-12 Dodge pickup?
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6/17/2008 2:15pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 7:19pm
Good to know that there is some change. I only know about our local Coal and Nuke plants in PA.

I heard allot about NG over the last 6 mo. so that is good but only if we start to up production to keep the cost down.

If not then we are no better off than we are now.
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6/17/2008 2:22pm
We had a good 100 mile ride near Sand Mountain the weekend after Memorial Day weekend. Amazingly...lots of people. We did discuss how with Clear Creek being closed now...Nevada might be getting more Californians out here. We're all ex-Cali's, and wish it would stay that way! haha.

It hasn't changed my riding, though I'm way out of the MX scene nowadays and that's when I would drive the most around the Cali.
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6/17/2008 2:41pm
You can always tell the Native Nevadan on the road. They are centered over the yellow line and at 25 MPH. Odd state to be bordered to California where we all drive like we are in a race.
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Tiki wrote:
You can always tell the Native Nevadan on the road. They are centered over the yellow line and at 25 MPH. Odd state to be bordered...
You can always tell the Native Nevadan on the road. They are centered over the yellow line and at 25 MPH. Odd state to be bordered to California where we all drive like we are in a race.
True dat.
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volcati wrote:
We had a good 100 mile ride near Sand Mountain the weekend after Memorial Day weekend. Amazingly...lots of people. We did discuss how with Clear Creek...
We had a good 100 mile ride near Sand Mountain the weekend after Memorial Day weekend. Amazingly...lots of people. We did discuss how with Clear Creek being closed now...Nevada might be getting more Californians out here. We're all ex-Cali's, and wish it would stay that way! haha.

It hasn't changed my riding, though I'm way out of the MX scene nowadays and that's when I would drive the most around the Cali.
Why is Clear Creek closed now ?
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6/17/2008 3:20pm
Not exactly sure? But rode with a guy from Salinas and he mentioned it. I hope he's not right...but it seemed to be a big topic that night.

Maybe someone else knows or has posted info here?
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There ya go. I used to love that place when I lived in the Bay Area. I'm sure Hollister is next.

RECREATION WRONGLY TARGETED IN CLEAR CREEK CLOSURE
May 1st, 2008 RSS Print Email

Contacts:
Don Amador, BRC Western Representative
Phone: (925) 625-6287
Fax: (925) 625-5309
Email: brdon@sharetrails.org
Webpage: http://www.sharetrails.org/staff/#DonA
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BRC's Don Amador (left) and Salinas Ramblers Motorcycle Club's Ed Tobin (right) on trail at CCMA.
Click image to enlarge. BOISE, ID (May 1)—Recreation groups expressed dismay at the surprise announcement that federal agencies are closing approximately 31,000 acres of public land in Central California. The Clear Creek Management Area ("CCMA"), located in San Benito County and managed by the Bureau of Land Management ("BLM"), is one of the most popular off-highway vehicle recreation sites in the West.

BLM yesterday announced it would immediately close roughly half of the CCMA as a result of a new EPA report alleging an increased long-term cancer risk associated with recreational activities in the CCMA. The CCMA contains a form of naturally occurring asbestos known as Coalinga chrysotile. Despite years of study and intensive use of the area, EPA's latest report apparently makes new findings determining the risk levels to be above the range that EPA considers acceptable.

"We dispute not only these findings, but the manner in which they have been presented and imposed upon the public," said Don Amador, Western Representative for the BlueRibbon Coalition, a recreation advocacy group. "This topic has been debated at length, and highly-motivated special interests have ruthlessly scoured any population spending even a trivial amount of time at the CCMA. The simple fact is that asbestos-related disease does not show up in any of these populations. Period. We are reviewing the EPA report to see what compels this new finding and immediate closure, but anticipate taking quick and decisive action," Amador concluded.


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The BlueRibbon Coalition is a national recreation group that champions responsible use of public and private lands, and encourages individual environmental stewardship. It represents over 10,000 individual members and 1,200 organization and business members, for a combined total of over 600,000 recreationists nationwide. 1-800-258-3742. http://www.sharetrails.org
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6/17/2008 3:36pm
835 wrote:
The funny thing is that Natural gas is more efficient too. The US has more than you can imagine. But they don’t want us to explore...
The funny thing is that Natural gas is more efficient too. The US has more than you can imagine. But they don’t want us to explore for it or tap into it. That and oil is our main fuel. You can get more electricity from NG than from coal. It burns cleaner and it is more efficient. It is just not what we are set up for.
Lots of fleets use NG including city buses. Why this isn't pushed more is odd. It probably falls along the line of some people claim they have had a cure for cancer but it gets hushed. Tthe medical industry who is in bed with congress would lose billions if there were a cure.
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Since I live along the coast, my trips to ride/race the SoCal mx tracks has almost stopped. I used to ride/race both days every weekend and ride once during the week. For the last 3 months I have ridden a total of 2 times just for fun. The fuel expense to and from the tracks is not worth riding to me. Since I've all but stopped moto, I've been mtn biking instead. I can ride my mtn bike to and from the trails.

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