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ATKpilot99 10/2/2011 2:49pm
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Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how...
Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.
cmx152 wrote:
They also said they wouldn't go back to single pipe on the 250f but they sneakily managed to switch back
Yeah what kind of idiotic "innovation" was that...they said it helped handling...lol.
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jmpatt79 10/2/2011 2:53pm
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and its going to come with options !!!!! side car,windshield and so on
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Yeah what kind of idiotic "innovation" was that...they said it helped handling...lol.
it was a sales ploy, just like the engine it is attached to.

i hope they get wild with it if it happens. reverse cylinder head, FI, and they integrate the motor into the chassis ala Ossa 280 trials.

i hope it weighs 205lbs dry, and handles like a cat on carpet.

and i hope the 16 year old crowd sucks down a monster energy drink, texts on their smart phone, and gnaw on their leatt braces in fear.
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jmpatt79 wrote:
and its going to come with options !!!!! side car,windshield and so on
you laugh, but i parked next to a two stroke suzuki samurai truck yesterday in japan. 500cc 70hp AUTOMOBILE, thing draws a crowd wherever it goes, and smells like Blendzall in traffic.

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machine 10/2/2011 2:57pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yeah what kind of idiotic "innovation" was that...they said it helped handling...lol.
Premixed wrote:
it was a sales ploy, just like the engine it is attached to. i hope they get wild with it if it happens. reverse cylinder head...
it was a sales ploy, just like the engine it is attached to.

i hope they get wild with it if it happens. reverse cylinder head, FI, and they integrate the motor into the chassis ala Ossa 280 trials.

i hope it weighs 205lbs dry, and handles like a cat on carpet.

and i hope the 16 year old crowd sucks down a monster energy drink, texts on their smart phone, and gnaw on their leatt braces in fear.
The AMA needs to lower the minimum weight requirement so the manufacturers have incentive to produce a 205lb bike.


BTW-My 250SX comes in close at 209lbs......Smile
Track and Trail 10/2/2011 3:20pm
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I would expect Yamaha or KTM to offer FI two-stroke MXer's first. I wouldn't mind being surprised though.
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Pat327 10/2/2011 3:39pm
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Not likely.
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neysbo 10/2/2011 3:43pm
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wont happen. Not a chance. No way. Honda is all 4T
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Track and Trail wrote:
I would expect Yamaha or KTM to offer FI two-stroke MXer's first. I wouldn't mind being surprised though.
I heard Kawasaki is bringing back their 2 stroke line
Track and Trail 10/2/2011 3:48pm
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Track and Trail wrote:
I would expect Yamaha or KTM to offer FI two-stroke MXer's first. I wouldn't mind being surprised though.
NP301 wrote:
I heard Kawasaki is bringing back their 2 stroke line
Heh, I've heard Suzuki, Honda, and Kawi now. If only at least one came true....
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Brent wrote:
Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
exactly. Won't happen. They are too proud to go back on their word and the wished of their founder.
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Premixed wrote:
it was a sales ploy, just like the engine it is attached to. i hope they get wild with it if it happens. reverse cylinder head...
it was a sales ploy, just like the engine it is attached to.

i hope they get wild with it if it happens. reverse cylinder head, FI, and they integrate the motor into the chassis ala Ossa 280 trials.

i hope it weighs 205lbs dry, and handles like a cat on carpet.

and i hope the 16 year old crowd sucks down a monster energy drink, texts on their smart phone, and gnaw on their leatt braces in fear.
Handles like a cat on a carpet? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I spit my drink all over my screen. I've never heard that before.


But seriously, FI or not, my arms will still pump like a mutha f***a!
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JCRF217 10/2/2011 7:09pm
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I heard that in 2024 they will bring the two smokers back, then in 2044 they will bring the four strokes back, and so on.
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newmann 10/2/2011 7:16pm
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Brent wrote:
Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
Well, when they can't force their 4 stroke down everyones throat they have to come up with options.....LOL


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Thursday, April 7, 2011
Honda Performance Development Now Selling CR125 Parts for 'Spec Honda' Class Engine

Honda CR125 engine parts and rebuild kits are now available to kart racers throughout the United States via the Honda Racing Line, the parts and service program for amateur and entry-level professional racers operated by Honda Performance Development (HPD).

The Honda CR125 engine is used in the popular Spec Honda and Stock Moto classes by a variety of karting sanctioning bodies. The Honda Racing Line now offers racers a new source for CR125 parts, engine-rebuild kits and technical support.

The Honda Racing Line provides its members with a direct connection to HPD and its unparalleled record of success at the pinnacles of motorsport, including the IZOD IndyCar Series and American Le Mans Series. This channel to factory support provides Honda Racing Line members the opportunity to purchase parts via convenient web-based ordering, with expedited, door-to-door delivery; and obtain technical support from HPD's knowledgeable sales staff.

"The Honda Racing Line was founded with the goals of supporting existing Honda racers and helping to grow the sport at the 'grassroots' level," said HPD General Manager Marc Sours. "From the start, incorporating a karting component has been an integral part of our plan. Honda's CR125 engine has been very popular in the karting community due to its performance and reliability. Through this program, we hope to make it easier and quicker for competitors to obtain the parts they need to go racing."

Registered kart racers may now purchase a CR125 engine 'kit', containing all of the required parts to assemble a complete engine. The engine kit will include a six-speed transmission for the appropriate model, with 'top-end' parts available for 1999-2002 engines, the most popular for karting applications.

Independent race shops and engine builders may continue to purchase their parts from Honda motorcycle dealers, and also purchase parts from HPD through the Honda Racing Line. The Honda Racing Line program is designed to increase the availability of kart racing parts to the sport's participants.

To join the Honda Racing Line, a racer must simply provide current membership information in a nationally-recognized sanctioning body; provide official race results for at least two events in the past year; complete and submit the registration form; and be a resident of the U.S. or Canada.

Honda Performance Development (HPD) is the Honda racing company within North America. Founded in 1993, and located in Santa Clarita, Calif., HPD is the technical operations center for high-performance Honda racing cars and engines. HPD is the single engine supplier to the IZOD IndyCar Series and spearheaded championship-winning efforts in the 2009-2010 American Le Mans Series, 2010 Le Mans Series and the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

Launched in 2009, the Honda Racing Line is a program targeted at licensed participants in sanctioned amateur and entry-level professional racing. Competitors may register for the Honda Racing Line through www.HondaRacingLine.com.
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JustMX 10/2/2011 7:27pm
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I opened this discussion by mistake.

I thought it said "HODAKA"
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hodaka super rat baby, bap buh buh bap bap bap buh bap bap
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Gukamonster 10/2/2011 7:33pm
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Sign me up to buy one if this ends up being true.
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JustMX 10/2/2011 7:34pm
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Gukamonster wrote:
Sign me up to buy one if this ends up being true.
a hodaka?

Hey, forget the super rat.

I dream of a thunder dog.

and "dirt squirt" would be my porn name if I ever break into the jiz biz.

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tomcat 10/3/2011 4:11am
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when my guy told me about this rumor he said I'd finally be able to buy a new bike,just what my wife didn't want to here.
StuartHarper39 10/3/2011 4:38am
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well, i'm going to start saving just in case :-)
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JustMX 10/3/2011 4:44am
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tomcat wrote:
when my guy told me about this rumor he said I'd finally be able to buy a new bike,just what my wife didn't want to here.
um........ok
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I dont know about 2014 but check out this 2015 CRF350R
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500guy wrote:
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get...
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.
smeg wrote:
A fuel infected two stroke will have LOWER emissions than a four stroke.
No it won't.

Direct Injected, maybe, but not just Fuel Injected.
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Bulldog 10/3/2011 9:18am
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Word from inside the Yamaha camp is that there is a YZ250 Direect Injected smoker being tested in Japan for future production.
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308 wrote:
I dont know about 2014 but check out this 2015 CRF350R [img]http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/STFUnoob_photo/FutureMX_03_Honda.jpg[/img]
I dont know about 2014 but check out this 2015 CRF350R
If Honda can get that down to about 220lbs then piss all over the 2-stroke, I'll be first in line for that 350. You can call me a kool-aid drinker all you like but that bike would be awesome. I actually know how to check my valves
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burn1986 10/3/2011 9:59am
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Yeah, but the fenders and plastic suck! Sure, it'd be cool if they get it light and everything, but wouldn't it be better to ride a bike that actually looks good?

I hope they are planning to make 2-stokes again, but man this is a little hard to believe.
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Shawn142 10/3/2011 10:06am
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Yeah, but the fenders and plastic suck! Sure, it'd be cool if they get it light and everything, but wouldn't it be better to ride a...
Yeah, but the fenders and plastic suck! Sure, it'd be cool if they get it light and everything, but wouldn't it be better to ride a bike that actually looks good?

I hope they are planning to make 2-stokes again, but man this is a little hard to believe.
The current plastics fall apart during the first ride anyway, wouldn't be anything new.

I'm totally indifferent to a "new" 2-stroke. I don't believe EFI would make it significantly better, but it would make it more expensive and heavier. I see people wanting them in new frames, but really would that even be any better? My '02 CR250 carves up a track, I don't believe putting that motor in a 250F frame would make a "better" bike, and it damn sure wouldn't justify the extra cost.
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burn1986 10/3/2011 10:21am
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Shawn142 wrote:
The current plastics fall apart during the first ride anyway, wouldn't be anything new. I'm totally indifferent to a "new" 2-stroke. I don't believe EFI would...
The current plastics fall apart during the first ride anyway, wouldn't be anything new.

I'm totally indifferent to a "new" 2-stroke. I don't believe EFI would make it significantly better, but it would make it more expensive and heavier. I see people wanting them in new frames, but really would that even be any better? My '02 CR250 carves up a track, I don't believe putting that motor in a 250F frame would make a "better" bike, and it damn sure wouldn't justify the extra cost.
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viking24 10/3/2011 10:21am
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Bring back the old '01 CR250 engine and carb with an up to date chassis and suspension. What's the need for FI or DI...am I missing something?
queen of spodes 10/3/2011 11:26am
10/3/2011 11:26am
A direct-injected two stroke is "greener" than four strokes. Less emissions, so I've read.

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