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Looks like you will have to get a account with FLO to be able to watch LLMX this year . Racer Tv is passing it off to Flo to charge us. Correct me if i am wrong please.
Can read all about it:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/flosports-bring-32-premier-road-motorcycle-events-floracing
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/will-loretta-lynns-be-shown-live-racer-tv
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/flo-tv-only-way-watch-ll
ohh yes you do and it cost something like 40$ to watch it. if you ask me its a BIG fuck up by DC. that was easy the best way for people that are interested in the sport to find a new young rider to be a fan of. i always put it on tv when i got home from work and watch when cooking food.
LLMX is here now and most are thinking its Free like the past, nobody was reading those posts a month ago
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Yeah it’s pretty shitty. I get the money and all that but the stream did well viewership wise and they had sponsors. Maybe this is the wrong mentality to have but I hope very few subscribe to Flo and it makes them reconsider going forward.
Yea they all have zero replies, no one read them...
There is zero chance to pay tbut it was great to watch some motos when it was free.
Phil agrees with you, with Matthes laughing and (sarcastically) saying "Loretta's needs the money"....
While Keefer keeps saying "careful, careful"
But he says what he wants, right? Lol
I defend a lot of the "media", but Keefer handled that very poorly.
Day 5 last year had nearly 85,000 views…this year they’ll be lucky to get 1,500.
I’ll pass on the DC cotter extortion fest
We can only hope
Yeah Keefer didn’t want to get “the talk” two weeks in a row. Was great Phil called it like it is.
Used to watch all week for years.
Will not watch a single race this year. I hope they get incredibly low subscription numbers.
Huge money grab and lame move.
Anyone familiar with the cost of broadcasting a live MX event? Let’s forgo the CAPEX and focus on OPEX. 5-10 people over 5-7 days, lodging, food, insurance, transportation rental, etc. Low end is, what, $10K? Not a king’s ransom but not peanuts, either.
This issue isn’t charging, it’s the fee. Flo should produce a national-caliber product but not sure that’s what most LL viewers want. Not sure what % of the $40 goes to MX Sports, but they apparently outsourced the event to Flo. In any case, 2026 is a trial with results TBD.
Classic Phil on pulp last night says he hopes the whole flo racing thing fails.
Dude nobody cares about cap vs ops spending, they took something that worked for everyone and decided to monetize it for no other reason than greed.
They weren't losing money on LL's week, but saw another way to increase their profit and took it at the expense of their core fans. It's a money grab, period.
So… people in the business of promoting races find another revenue stream and we’re upset about that? Man, I guess I’ll never get to put my pitchfork away.
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Less exposure for the little guys equals less sponsorship dollars. So they're either incredibly stupid or all this talk about 'growing the sport' is BS. Looks alot more like growing personal bank accounts than growing the sport to me. How does less exposure grow anything?
It’s well beyond the point of a business making money, which I’ve got zero issues with. It’s straight greed. Does DC and mx sports really need all the $ from what should be a $10 fee to pump the sewage out of my rv? It’s all for their love of the sport though right? We did it last year, got the souvenir bib on the shop wall, won’t go back. It won’t stop until people stop feeding the beast.
They wont produce anything better than what's been done in the past. Same half ass broadcast with missing running orders and ahit camera angles. The only difference is going to be paying to watch instead of it being free.
The Cotter/Coombs mafia needs to be taken down.
I'm not paying it. I'll watch mattyb and others videos. I hope others feel the same way so they dont make any money
Data point for them: I watched a significant number of races last year, I will watch zero this year.
I’ll be interested in their viewership and how it translates to revenue vs. youtube and ads.
As others have said, total greedy money grab by MX Sports. When you hear the actual cost of the ranch, there’s no way it’s sustainable at those prices. The luster is gone, with SMX Next, combines, even Canadian Nationals proving a more valuable experience for the next generation of pros. It’ll die off like the Golden State Series back in the day. I wouldn’t pay a dollar to these greedy bastards, and I’m probably not alone in those sentiments.
Stop feeding the beast is the only answer. Another beast will be along shortly, tho…
Are you saying the Golden State series was killed by greedy promoters? I didn’t know that, say more.
Disagree. Racer TV is not owned by MX Sports and may not have been viable for them to continue to broadcast it for free. The deal with Flo is much more than Loretta's. It's a dozen or more events and the "money grab" is from Racer, not Mx Sports.
Exactly. And most here expect pay increases every year, don't want their benefits costs to go up etc.....and all of that takes revenue growing for whatever business they are part of. Whether a garbage man or a physician, same principle.........and then complain if anyone in moto makes $. Well not anyone, just the promotors for some reason. Jett can make 10 million and nobody cares.
Is this because of the thousands of "gay" comments last year?
I liked watching it on and off all week when it was on Youtube. 0 chance I am paying $40 for it. I also am not that heavily invested in amateur mx at this point, so not all that big of deal to just not watch. Funny how Flo is $40 a month (much more than any high end streaming service that I know of and those have significantly more content and their own shows/movies) It's not even about the $40 as much as just how ridiculously greedy they continue to be.
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