Posts
3532
Joined
11/24/2012
Location
Frezno, MO
US
Edited Date/Time
10/16/2022 9:42pm
Well, since we are allowed to talk about politics...Is Alex Jones basically on trial for a thoughtcrime like George Orwell talked about in 1984? I haven't followed the trial entirely because I don't have cable, and I have more important things to tend to. But this whole thing seems nuts, a $40 million pay out for having the wrong opinion?
And the part about his defense attorney sending his two years of text messages to the prosecutor is insane too. Seems like that would call for a mistrial, but I am not the expert on this type of thing.
The below article had a lot of good info.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/08/04/alex-jones-trial-j…
And the part about his defense attorney sending his two years of text messages to the prosecutor is insane too. Seems like that would call for a mistrial, but I am not the expert on this type of thing.
The below article had a lot of good info.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/08/04/alex-jones-trial-j…
The Shop
I'm really surprised that he couldn't have just said that his opinion changed after he did further research, or he just learned more about the case.
Or was his Free Speech Systems LLC (Infowars parent co.) company sued?
Or even PQPR Holdings?
I'm sure there will be all kinds of bankruptcy stuff filed with the companies he owns.
I highly doubt he'll ever pay anywhere near the full amount.
I'm in the thinking that his speech is protected under 1st A in regards to criminal charges against him in this matter but not civil due to his intent. He was the only news outlet with a global/national audience making the crazy claims over & over again. If other global/national media outlets had made the same claims as him it would've been much harder to prove intent. All he would've had to say is others reported it so I thought it was real and I reported it.
However,he knew dam well it wasn't real.
So no, he wasn’t being sued for a ‘thought crime’. He was sued for his actions of willfully lying, impugning, and taunting the parents who lost their children.
But Civil Libel he has no freedom of speech that is libelous or slanderous. He is not protected from prosecution.
What is libelous speech?
Libel is a method of defamation expressed by print, writing, pictures, signs, effigies, or any communication embodied in physical form that is injurious to a person's reputation, exposes a person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or injures a person in his/her business or profession.
He is absolutely guilty of civil libel. His speech was injurious to the parents. It was injurious to their reputation. It was 100% defamation of the dead children to spread lies.
Criminally he’s protected, but civilly he has zero protection and he rightly was sued into oblivion.
This isn’t just a matter of a difference of opinion. He willfully spread hateful and harmful lies that caused emotional injury to others.
Open and shut case.
Fuck Alex Jones. He’s poison. I’m glad he lost. And he deserved it.
Especially the last line .
He didn’t have “opinions”, he was spewing bullshit and calling parents of slain children actors and liars. Not just that, he was exploiting the tragedy for his own profit. The dude probably never believed his own garbage.
Imagine grieving the loss of a murdered child and having your image plastered over the internet calling you a liar, and part of a conspiracy
The fuckwit deserves it. What a shit human.
On the texts, they weren't sent to the 'prosecutor' as this was a civil case. Also Jones specifically said under oath that there were no texts before his dumbshit dollar store lawyer sent them to the plaintiffs' attorney.
In fact he lost the main case by default for not complying with disclosure. Dishonesty has consequences and he only has himself to blame.
But make no mistake about it, the more you look into that Sandy Hook thing, and Adam Lanza, the more disturbing it gets. The public will never know exactly what happened that day, and if you’re trusting what “mainstream news” sources are telling you about what happened, then there’s no hope for you on this and you probably don’t really care about the truth, regardless. This is coming from someone who lives one town over from there.
Pit Row
One thing that I do find strange about the US civil court system is having juries. Not only do they decide cases but get to set the amount of damages awarded. Defamation is a complicated and nuanced area of law and shouldn't really be decided by the totally inexperienced in my view.
What is quite common is to have assistant judges nominated by the parties involved where expertice is required to fully understand the case. Say CERN had an issue with a technical matter from a supplier, a judge would need technical and scientifical assistance to strengthen the court. That is also why arbitration is so popular betweeen professional parties.
Punitive damages are damages assessed in order to punish the defendant for outrageous conduct and/or to reform or deter the defendant and others from engaging in conduct similar to that which formed the basis of the lawsuit
From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_damages
Each American has the right to say that they BELIEVE whatever...no matter how non-sensical. But when you have a public forum and spout falsehoods and claim them as fact...that is over the line.
It's a good thing I'm not a judge. My penalties for trying to destroy the fabric of the nation would be.... medieval
The dude called the parents of murdered children, actors and liars.
Turns out there a ramifications for spewing bullshit about people to a large audience.
It’s sad that every issue gets turned into a left vs right issue. Stop contributing to this crap.
Post a reply to: Alex Jones court case