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For bench racing sakes, if Rv wins the gp title, would that be equal , less , or more impressive than the 24-0 seasons, rc and james had? And all 3 are great riders ,with their own resumes. Imo if he wins the gp title, he ranks #2 behind rc.
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Between those three though is hard to differentiate.
IMO;
JS had the hardest hill to climb
RV overcame injuries (Instead of becoming gun shy)
RC is....well... RC. Dude is badass fast and a beast.
RV will certainly separate himself by winning a GP Championship thats for sure.
Think that will open the doors to the way it used to be in the 70's where riders will be going abroad more.
Hard to say.....and fans of different riders will have different opinions.
RC =GOAT
JS= MTMOTP
RV= BBAOTP
I think we can all agree RC is #1, but lets take a look at career #'s of the top 4.
RC - 16 c'ships, 161 wins
MC - 10 c'ships, 102 wins
JS - 7 c'ships, 116 wins
RV - 10 c'ships, 71 wins
James and RVs #'s tell me one thing, RV knows how to manage a c'ship and James doesn't.
Well there ya go, I'm sure this will add at least 3 more pages to this post!
It's like comparing the 1985 Bears to the 1972 Dolphins... we'll never know who was actually better
1. Carmichael. 12 championships, and not losing a race outdoors for over two years is incredible. 3 perfect overall seasons and 2 complete perfect seasons is video game type statistics.
2. Villopoto. 6 championships with the competition he's had is amazing. He's literally Carmichael with a few major injuries added in there. I wish we could take away his crash in St. Louis and his knee injuries to see what kind of run he could make at Carmichael's 12.
3. Stewart. It's still mind boggling to me that he only has 3 championships. Arguably the most talented we've ever seen, and when he's on, it's fun to watch. I really wish Kawasaki had their 450 completed prior to the 05 season.
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4 SX championships in a row.
now set down your haterade and find some more ways to diminish RV's career
I've just had 1 cup of haterade this morning, thought I'd liven this place up, been boring around here lately!
your logic is seriously flawed.
troll on, bro
By comparison:
JS: 5 major titles over 23 total opportunities (22%)
RV: 9 major titles over 15 total opportunities (60%)
MC: 8 major titles over ~18 total opportunities (45%, not including MX during his SX-only years)
Ryan and Jeremy's numbers are very, very impressive, and there are others who hover in the 30-40% success range. However, Ricky's results defy the odds, resulting from a lethal combination of talent, training, and tenacity.
To pose another question, if you don't count MC or anyone after him (let's call it Pre-MC), what would the rankings look like? Hannah, Roger, Bradshaw, Johnson?
As always, you shouldn't just look at the digits (24-0, 3 titles, whatever it may be), but the circumstances behind them. To a guy of RC or JS's level, 24-0 should be expected against Shorts and Ferrys, and is almost more a matter of luck and mechanical stability than riding ability. Shit, Dungey only lost 5 motos his rookie 450 attempt, and we know now he's not super elite like RC.
Beating the reigning 6-time consecutive champ on his own ground, putting to rest so much talk, would be truly legendary. That, combined with the 4 sx titles, would place him in the same echelon as RC, where it would be just them. But let's revisit this in a year.
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