Rv, Rc Js , records?

TDeath21 wrote:

I don't see how anyone can logically rank Stewart ahead of Villopoto in regards to the best career.

rcm406 wrote:

Put it this way! 20 years from now, RV will be remembered the same way we remember Jeff Stanton(both have 6 big bike c'ships) Yea, I...

Put it this way! 20 years from now, RV will be remembered the same way we remember Jeff Stanton(both have 6 big bike c'ships) Yea, I know, I don't remember much about Stanton either! and James will stiill be remembered as the baddest motherf***cker to ever ride a motocross bike! Shit, people still to this day can't get enough of watching old videos of James from 2002 to present day!! Those videos are a legecy all on their own!

theToothPerry wrote:

hah... Any race Stewarts raced RV straight this has been the result. I can find more if you need me too...

Outsider wrote:

"Stewart has nothing to lose at this point"

Osaka627 wrote:

Who is going to be more remembered Bill Russell 11x Champion or Michael Jordan 6x Champion?

mxb2 wrote:

Ok cool chart, i thought james dad raced, anybody hurting for $$$ is not gonna spend money on dirt bikes.

Kyriazis298 wrote:

He raced a dirt bike during his free time, he had to sell it to get james racing. They were poor and they have talked about...

He raced a dirt bike during his free time, he had to sell it to get james racing. They were poor and they have talked about it hundreds of times. the fact you are denying it makes me laugh. Im gonna guess your an RV2 fan?

mxb2 wrote:

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a...

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a mx bike. And if you can afford a dirt bike and travel, the ghetto excuse is weak.

Osaka627 wrote:

Bill Russell is RV if he wins the GP
RC is MJ
JS7 is Wilt Chamberlain

Kyriazis298 wrote:

He raced a dirt bike during his free time, he had to sell it to get james racing. They were poor and they have talked about...

He raced a dirt bike during his free time, he had to sell it to get james racing. They were poor and they have talked about it hundreds of times. the fact you are denying it makes me laugh. Im gonna guess your an RV2 fan?

mxb2 wrote:

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a...

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a mx bike. And if you can afford a dirt bike and travel, the ghetto excuse is weak.

Kyriazis298 wrote:

Its not that the stewart family could not afford it, they literally LIVED in a ghetto neighbourhood with a high crime rate. they didnt just use...

Its not that the stewart family could not afford it, they literally LIVED in a ghetto neighbourhood with a high crime rate. they didnt just use it as an excuse. And if stats dont lie, they yes stewart like i have beeb saying lived in the ghetto.

theToothPerry wrote:

Im sure thats what RV thought as he was caught and passed also.

theToothPerry wrote:

Im sure thats what RV thought as he was caught and passed also.

TDeath21 wrote:

I don't see how anyone can logically rank Stewart ahead of Villopoto in regards to the best career.

rcm406 wrote:

Put it this way! 20 years from now, RV will be remembered the same way we remember Jeff Stanton(both have 6 big bike c'ships) Yea, I...

Put it this way! 20 years from now, RV will be remembered the same way we remember Jeff Stanton(both have 6 big bike c'ships) Yea, I know, I don't remember much about Stanton either! and James will stiill be remembered as the baddest motherf***cker to ever ride a motocross bike! Shit, people still to this day can't get enough of watching old videos of James from 2002 to present day!! Those videos are a legecy all on their own!

Outsider wrote:

Baddest motherf*cker huh? ;) [img]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/Christobel931/RV_coxShotEdit2_zps43d5add8.jpg[/img]

Baddest motherf*cker huh?

Outsider wrote:

"I've never seen anyone rip a corner as fast as Ryan Villopoto" ~ Kevin Windham

rcm406 wrote:

That's funny! I guess that picture will be RVs legacy, because that's the only fuckin one anybody ever post!

theToothPerry wrote:

Im sure thats what RV thought as he was caught and passed also.

Outsider wrote:

"I've never seen anyone rip a corner as fast as Ryan Villopoto" ~ Kevin Windham

Outsider wrote:

"I've never seen anyone rip a corner as fast as Ryan Villopoto" ~ Kevin Windham

theToothPerry wrote:

You really want to start quoting...do you remember what RC said about Stewart? haha.....

we will never see them race together again anyways..

https://youtu.be/Y3D7gKFKAFo

rcm406 wrote:

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub "James is the best ever" - RJ "Speechless" DB "James is the fastest...

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub
"James is the best ever" - RJ
"Speechless" DB
"James is the fastest to ever throw a leg over a bike" - RC
"mind boggling, incredible" Emig

"FMOTP" - Ralph Sheheen

Kyriazis298 wrote:

Has villopoto had a perfect season? Has villopoto went 23-1 on a 125 against mainly 250f's Even in amateur rankings, does poto have 11 loretta titles...

Has villopoto had a perfect season?
Has villopoto went 23-1 on a 125 against mainly 250f's
Even in amateur rankings, does poto have 11 loretta titles?
Villopoto knows how to win championships but James is a much more impressive rider and especially considering where they started from, in the ghetto with almost no money, etc. He was not accepted into the sport as a youth yet still pushed hard and earned respect from most, except you.
I mean you hate on stewart in way to many other threads so i dont think many people will take you very seriously when your talking about stew

also, my spelling sucks..

TDeath21 wrote:

1. No he hasn't. He's never had his main competition be Tim Ferry, Andrew Short, Cody Cooper, and Mike Alessi. Against similar competition, Dungey won 20...

1. No he hasn't. He's never had his main competition be Tim Ferry, Andrew Short, Cody Cooper, and Mike Alessi. Against similar competition, Dungey won 20 motos in 2010 as a rookie. Villopoto did win 18 out of 24 though against Dungey, Stewart, Barcia, and Canard.

2. No he hasn't. He never rode a 125 vs 250f's.

3. You're right. Loretta Lynn's Championships need to be considered when ranking careers. Alessi has joined the conversation of greatest ever and Cianciarulo is already there.

4. I also wasn't aware that where they started from is being taken into consideration when determining who had the best career, nor was I aware that most impressive meant better career.

5. I disrespect and hate on Stewart? Can you please show me some examples where I do that?

6. Hey look! We agree on something! Your spelling does suck, and your grammar goes right along with it.

7. Villopoto has lost one championship to Stewart in his entire career. The 2009 SX Championship. Every other championship they both lined up for, Villopoto beat Stewart.

8. Next time you come in here throwing around false accusations, be prepared to back it up.

Kyriazis298 wrote:

Go to page 8,9,10 of your posting history, full of "james is a cheater, he MUST be suspended from racing". "Not sure HOW THEY ACCEPTED HIS...

Go to page 8,9,10 of your posting history, full of "james is a cheater, he MUST be suspended from racing". "Not sure HOW THEY ACCEPTED HIS TUEs he needs to be suspended" and actually just look at every post you have made on a JS7 thread and it proves my point. Let the people in charge decide what his fate is, not you.

Second, your talking shit to a 16 year old about his grammar on a motocross site and thread, get a fucking life

yes where they started from comes into consideration because of how hard it was to get where they were. Stewart has had to battle racism, unacceptance and booing at many northeast motocross round in the early 2000s, especially unadilla..

Villopoto has also had to make some wise decisions like to filter his dad out of his life for a number of years to help with his career.

My point is since you are clearly not understanding is how the fuck can you organise a top 5 in order when all the riders careers have been so drastically different and at different time periods. equiptment was different, lineups were different, TRACKS were different!!!! there is no way someone can order a top 5 list IN ORDER like you are trying to do. Every past champion is a legend and i am not a believer in whos better than who because to be honest, they all have done 1 thing and that is win championships and make history. All the guys listed have made history multiple times. Im not gonna argue any more because there is really no point. And what false accusations?

My point was villopoto has not gone 23-1 on a 250f against 250fs while stewart went 23-1 on a 125 against 250fs. And yes amateur careers do affect someones careers.. no real way of explaining it.. thats why there is so much hype around guys like cianciarulo or even when alessi first turned pro.. oh and yea, alessi i would put as one of the greatest riders of all time, hese been runner up in 2 450 motocross championships, won heat races thats something not many riders have done.

Oh and i really dont care if he won 18 out of 24 motos because thats not a perfect season nor is 20 out of 24.

My original reply to your comment should have been, "How can any logical person rank past champions in a top 5?

theToothPerry wrote:

Im sure thats what RV thought as he was caught and passed also.

Outsider wrote:

"I've never seen anyone rip a corner as fast as Ryan Villopoto" ~ Kevin Windham

rcm406 wrote:

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub "James is the best ever" - RJ "Speechless" DB "James is the fastest...

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub
"James is the best ever" - RJ
"Speechless" DB
"James is the fastest to ever throw a leg over a bike" - RC
"mind boggling, incredible" Emig

"FMOTP" - Ralph Sheheen

Osaka627 wrote:

RV is a better racer than Stewart, but Stewart is a better rider. The Fans like different things, have different tastes, and are motivated by different...

RV is a better racer than Stewart, but Stewart is a better rider. The Fans like different things, have different tastes, and are motivated by different goals for the rider they like & support. This discussion isn't really winnable between those two because they're special in their own way.

What I'm surprised about is why hasn't Stefan Everts been mentioned.

Outsider wrote:

"I've never seen anyone rip a corner as fast as Ryan Villopoto" ~ Kevin Windham

rcm406 wrote:

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub "James is the best ever" - RJ "Speechless" DB "James is the fastest...

"When James is racing, everyone else is racing for 2nd place" - Kdub
"James is the best ever" - RJ
"Speechless" DB
"James is the fastest to ever throw a leg over a bike" - RC
"mind boggling, incredible" Emig

"FMOTP" - Ralph Sheheen

Outsider wrote:

"Ryan Villopoto is the fastest in the world on whatever bike, I don't know anyone that can hang with him except for[b] maybe [/b]James Stewart" ~...

"Ryan Villopoto is the fastest in the world on whatever bike, I don't know anyone that can hang with him except for maybe James Stewart" ~ David Bailey

mxb2 wrote:

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a...

Wrong ,nice try i am a huge metty, tomac fan . but stats dont lie. like i said they are all bad mofo s on a mx bike. And if you can afford a dirt bike and travel, the ghetto excuse is weak.

Kyriazis298 wrote:

Its not that the stewart family could not afford it, they literally LIVED in a ghetto neighbourhood with a high crime rate. they didnt just use...

Its not that the stewart family could not afford it, they literally LIVED in a ghetto neighbourhood with a high crime rate. they didnt just use it as an excuse. And if stats dont lie, they yes stewart like i have beeb saying lived in the ghetto.

mxb2 wrote:

I never said they didnt live in the ghetto, never been there, have you? ghetto is unemployed, strugglin, high crime , no food ,arrests so your...

I never said they didnt live in the ghetto, never been there, have you? ghetto is unemployed, strugglin, high crime , no food ,arrests so your excuse for them struggling is bs, If it was that bad , they would have sold all rhe stuff and moved, having a dirt bike is not a top priority if your atruggling. And since 2010 dungey and rv have been the best 450 riders in sx,mx in the usa.