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Everyone claims Ryan isn't aggressive enough, isn't at the level that RV, CR and JS are at. What does he need to work on to be at that level? Does he not have the natural talent those other guys have to go to the next level at any given time, or is he just more reserved and consistent?
I am personally an RD fan, but i fail to see why he doesn't get the respect that most do at that level. Any positive or negative feedback would be nice!
I am personally an RD fan, but i fail to see why he doesn't get the respect that most do at that level. Any positive or negative feedback would be nice!
More skill, smaller stones.
From what I can see at least. Villopoto and Stewart are able to hang it out a little bit more and make it work most of the time. Dungey and Reed are more technical riders but have trouble riding outside of their comfort zone. Yet while riding in their comfort zone they are still able to push Villopoto and Stewart.
For me its added depth to the racing, and creates parity as certain tracks suit each style respectively.
When you look at the odds the RD approach wins most of the time..
IMO people who claim RD is not aggressive enough just don't realize RD is playing the game at a whole nother level. And winning.
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"How do I not pass him? How do I catch him and then not pass him?" --Dungey after Washougal moto 1, as documented in Orange Assault, Ep. 5. This makes me think there's less game-playing than motokiwi (above) thinks.
People say he got his "slow n steady" thing from DeCoster, but he's also spent lots of time training with two of the most insanely fast riders ever, Carmichael and Stewart, and he's seen what consistency but not enough speed has gotten Reed. Seemingly his hesitation is just a mental roadblock, i.e. he lacks the "balls" (known in some circles as stupidity) of the more on-edge guys.
If Roger isn't annoyed yet at Dungey's lack of aggression, he eventually will be. He's mentioned before that Ryan needs to get aggressive, but it hasn't really been necessary yet, what with all Dungey's wins and titles. It's not yet adapt or die, but that may be on the approach. Look at Roczen just a few months ago. In another OA episode, Roger said of Ken, "How many times is Baggett gonna ride around him?" "The riders ride different, they're more aggressive than in Europe." Roczen was one of the more consistent guys over 24 motos, but his lack of aggression limited him to, what, one moto win the whole season?
It's kinda hard to fault the guy, as what he's doing has sure been working. But with the same guys who wouldn't budge for Roczen (and Roczen himself) making their way into Dungey's class, will it continue to work? The answer to this question and much more in the next installment of Monster Energy Supercross!!!
RD just goes about different. Not to use stick and ball sports, but, who would you rather have as a quarterback......Vick or Manning (either one). Brees or Rogers or Brady. They all are great, just different. MX is the same way, different athletes do things differently, but they all are effective. Too bad we are all so hillbilly dumbass throttle heads that we can't recognize the differences.
he was not on there pace.
Chad beat him straight up in 2011 multiple times outdoors as well.
I like dungey, just i don't think he was.
https://youtu.be/HEvPwWjRyg8
Perfect.
Oh, and to the OP, people (RD fans) do try (spitefully) to say RV didn't earn his title this year, but the fact is he was crushing foos all year before he got hurt. RV SMASH!
Dungey just shrugs bashfully and says, "Gosh, is everyone hurt again? You guys should really be more careful. Welp, I guess I'll help myself to all these wins you dropped and be on my way! Hum-deedum-deedum."
Moto wins after first 12 motos:
Reed: 6
Sick Villopoto: 4
Dunge: 2
Moto wins in motos 13-24:
Villopoto: 6
Dunge: 4 ....."You don't want these, Chad? Well, OK then. If you're sure."
Injured/timid Reed: 1
Pit Row
My opinion of Mr. Dungey is that he is an adaptor. He will ride much more aggressively towards the end of the season than he will at the beginning of the season. We just haven't really seen his balls to the wall at the end of a season except 2011 outdoors in which he seemed ready to get aggressive with RV2. He just got the short end of a lapper.
RD is a true champ, but if everyone rides around waiting for the other to crash? Not really a race now is it?
I don't count Championships but hasn't he already surpassed RV, CR, & JS in number of Championships won individually? Either way his career is certainly going to be more lengthy than RVs or JSs.
Dungey can have the kind of career length Windham has enjoyed, but with more titles when things work out.
Just a different approach at racing.........and for him.....it works.
His championship trophy case at his house agrees with me also.
He doesn't need to change anything.
Lotta people seem to feel that Dungey is smarter than Reed. I don't think so. Reed is still the better racer (see my moto wins tally above), and he's learned a lot in a decade in the sport. Remember this Reed quote, from A1 press day this year?
“I think you need to win races. Year after year, other than ‘10, I’ve been here every weekend, being on the podium. And in all the years I’ve been so close but yet so far, I’ve only had a couple of race wins. I think you need to need to be able to have five race wins this year to win.”
Reed saw that his old strategy, the one Dungey now employs, wasn't working for him, and he adapted. That's not dumb, even if it didn't work like he planned.
And yeah, loftyair, RV is faster than JS7, and he does it without wrecking nonstop. A person would really be stretching to say his injuries this year and in '10 were a direct result of him pushing past his comfort zone, in my BROpinion.
Fastest-lap honors in the first 8 motos of 2011: Villopoto 5, Dungey 2, Reed 1.
Reed won five of 'em, though, 'cause he's a friggin' bulldog, and not even repeated blows to the head will stop him.
And I think Stewart maybe has a chance at regaining his fastest-man crown, if he's comfy enough, but in case you missed his SX performances over the last 13 months, RV is really fucking fast these days.
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