Gary Semics outdated?

rippinruts
Edited Date/Time 3/30/2022 9:06pm
What do you guys think? I have seen some of his lessons, and they seem pretty good. But obviously riding style and pace has developed alot every year. Is the basics still the same as they were 10 years ago? and 20 years ago?
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teggers 5/29/2017 3:23am
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His training and work ethic will never be outdated.
Imagine the impact he has had on people and their fitness over the years.
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PFitzG38 5/29/2017 3:37am
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GS is still plugged in and will always be relevant. Besides old age and trechery will best youth and modernity any day
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tobz 5/29/2017 5:01am
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philG wrote:
Basics are basics..
Put it perfectly!

Just because he's not teaching how put your foot on the underside of the footpeg when you snap it sideways off a supercross triple...
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rippinruts 5/29/2017 6:21am
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Yeah basics are basics i guess, haha. Thanks for your replies.

teggers, has he had an impact on any current pro`s?Smile
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philG wrote:
Basics are basics..
tobz wrote:
Put it perfectly! Just because he's not teaching how put your foot on the underside of the footpeg when you snap it sideways off a supercross...
Put it perfectly!

Just because he's not teaching how put your foot on the underside of the footpeg when you snap it sideways off a supercross triple...
Bingo.

scottydogmx 5/29/2017 6:52am
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I would recommend the videos errhh DVDs to anyone starting to ride and if they practice each technique, they will get better, quicker than trying to teach therselves.
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Robgvx 5/29/2017 7:29am
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Physics doesn't change. I was taught by someone who raced in the sixties and seventies. His techniques are as spot-on today as they were back then.
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kkawboy14 5/29/2017 7:43am
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Randy Yoho advice to me 30 years ago, "how much did you spend on all this stuff to race? Spend $50 on lessons, you won't regret it!" Best advice I ever got!
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You seem to be assuming that Gary stopped riding when he retired.
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TbonesPop 5/29/2017 8:49am
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What GS teaches in terms of content and the fundamentals will never be outdated, ever. So there is still massive amounts of value in the videos. I do think there is an "opportunity" for GS to put together some additional more modern videos using new A/V technology to "refresh" many of the lessons as well as diving more into the nuances of the some new MX techniques - granted there isn't anything new that is earth shattering or going to make anyone go from avg Joe rider to RV or JS. A refresh would be nice, but certainly not a necessity. Again, the fundamentals taught in his videos are timeless.
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rippinruts wrote:
What do you guys think? I have seen some of his lessons, and they seem pretty good. But obviously riding style and pace has developed alot...
What do you guys think? I have seen some of his lessons, and they seem pretty good. But obviously riding style and pace has developed alot every year. Is the basics still the same as they were 10 years ago? and 20 years ago?
And Roger De Coster should be retired already, right?....
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kage173 5/29/2017 9:13am
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rippinruts wrote:
What do you guys think? I have seen some of his lessons, and they seem pretty good. But obviously riding style and pace has developed alot...
What do you guys think? I have seen some of his lessons, and they seem pretty good. But obviously riding style and pace has developed alot every year. Is the basics still the same as they were 10 years ago? and 20 years ago?
I think this was a good question bro. And I think you've gotten mostly correct answers. Minus the sarcastic stuff.
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wreckitrandy 5/29/2017 9:26am
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"When I find a teacher that can beat me, I'll take a lesson." Lee Trevino.... I'm pretty confident that Semics is still faster than I've ever been in my life so, yeah I'd take any advice he's giving.
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A person can learn anything on their own given enough practice and time invested, a teacher gets you where you want to be a lot faster!
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Heads Up - Gary Semics, Donnie Hansen, Ryan Hughes, Baker etc are constantly studying the sport and athletes. As the sport eveolves, so do their classes. That said, has body postion, cornering, braking changed?
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kkawboy14 wrote:
A person can learn anything on their own given enough practice and time invested, a teacher gets you where you want to be a lot faster!
And breaks bad habits (techniques). By the way, any one find it interesting the majority of top riders have riding coaches (kinda like NFL quarterbacks)?
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Has Jeannie Carbunkle ever even rode a bike? We know big James rode some, but if you argue that a kid on a 60 can beat Jeannie, well, you're probably not going far.

Colleen MIllsaps is another. You don't have to fast or even ride to be able to see what works and what doesn't.
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brimx153 5/29/2017 10:44am
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philG wrote:
Basics are basics..
most top riders nowaday would say that the Basics have changed since 4 strokes have come along . i think the OP is saying that GS still teaches how to ride a 2 stroke when alot of trainers have changed there techniques for how to ride a 4 stroke . ie Doug D , Seb T, Ryano ,DV ,Keefer ,Grant L etc etc .


I agree with the OP the techniques of riding the 4 stoke is different in corners ,
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brimx153 5/29/2017 10:46am
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bd wrote:
Heads Up - Gary Semics, Donnie Hansen, Ryan Hughes, Baker etc are constantly studying the sport and athletes. As the sport eveolves, so do their classes...
Heads Up - Gary Semics, Donnie Hansen, Ryan Hughes, Baker etc are constantly studying the sport and athletes. As the sport eveolves, so do their classes. That said, has body postion, cornering, braking changed?
"body postion, cornering, braking changed?" Yes they all have changed since 2 stroke days

Ryano teaches a way different way of riding than he did say 13 yrs ago ,
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RhinoRider wrote:
Has Jeannie Carbunkle ever even rode a bike? We know big James rode some, but if you argue that a kid on a 60 can beat...
Has Jeannie Carbunkle ever even rode a bike? We know big James rode some, but if you argue that a kid on a 60 can beat Jeannie, well, you're probably not going far.

Colleen MIllsaps is another. You don't have to fast or even ride to be able to see what works and what doesn't.
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DavetheVintageGuy 5/29/2017 11:33am
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Can you imagine some of today's snowflakes going to a Gary Bailey school and having their knuckles busted by the Professor with the flagstick?Woohoo Oh, the parental outrage that would ensue. Lawyers, guns, money, etc.

Best to keep those fingers on the levers, Junior.Evil

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rippinruts 5/29/2017 12:02pm
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Randy Yoho advice to me 30 years ago, "how much did you spend on all this stuff to race? Spend $50 on lessons, you won't regret...
Randy Yoho advice to me 30 years ago, "how much did you spend on all this stuff to race? Spend $50 on lessons, you won't regret it!" Best advice I ever got!
Thats true! I will keep that in mind haha.Smile
rippinruts 5/29/2017 12:04pm
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TbonesPop wrote:
What GS teaches in terms of content and the fundamentals will never be outdated, ever. So there is still massive amounts of value in the videos...
What GS teaches in terms of content and the fundamentals will never be outdated, ever. So there is still massive amounts of value in the videos. I do think there is an "opportunity" for GS to put together some additional more modern videos using new A/V technology to "refresh" many of the lessons as well as diving more into the nuances of the some new MX techniques - granted there isn't anything new that is earth shattering or going to make anyone go from avg Joe rider to RV or JS. A refresh would be nice, but certainly not a necessity. Again, the fundamentals taught in his videos are timeless.
Thanks for the good answer.
rippinruts 5/29/2017 12:06pm
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kage173 wrote:
I think this was a good question bro. And I think you've gotten mostly correct answers. Minus the sarcastic stuff.
First sentence might be the nicest thing i have heard on vital lol, thanksLaughing
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752dad 5/29/2017 1:11pm
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bd wrote:
Heads Up - Gary Semics, Donnie Hansen, Ryan Hughes, Baker etc are constantly studying the sport and athletes. As the sport eveolves, so do their classes...
Heads Up - Gary Semics, Donnie Hansen, Ryan Hughes, Baker etc are constantly studying the sport and athletes. As the sport eveolves, so do their classes. That said, has body postion, cornering, braking changed?
brimx153 wrote:
"body postion, cornering, braking changed?" Yes they all have changed since 2 stroke days Ryano teaches a way different way of riding than he did say...
"body postion, cornering, braking changed?" Yes they all have changed since 2 stroke days

Ryano teaches a way different way of riding than he did say 13 yrs ago ,
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