Fuel-Injected Honda 150

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Edited Date/Time 4/9/2016 10:11pm
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while...

http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999

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3/31/2016 5:42pm
Carson's recap of the ride seems spot on of what it should be..

Fast forward 10 years and Jagger Craig will be featured in the same type of video about electric bikes (sad but true)
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3/31/2016 5:48pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2016 5:48pm
Carson's recap of the ride seems spot on of what it should be.. Fast forward 10 years and Jagger Craig will be featured in the same...
Carson's recap of the ride seems spot on of what it should be..

Fast forward 10 years and Jagger Craig will be featured in the same type of video about electric bikes (sad but true)
Yes, but Jagger will do it with style, while still being slightly sarcastic. He'll speak a language you'll all understand. Wink
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3/31/2016 6:09pm
Not much cooler than trick mini's!
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3/31/2016 6:37pm
That's awesome.... And very interesting that it got hrc's attention.

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3/31/2016 6:40pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2016 6:49pm
Nice but new stuff just isnt as trick as the customs from the 70s and 80s from DG DMC etc. Its just got EFI
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3/31/2016 6:54pm
Nice but new stuff just isnt as trick as the customs from the 70s and 80s from DG DMC etc. Its just got EFI
Um...you missed a few things.
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3/31/2016 7:19pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2016 7:20pm
Epic
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3/31/2016 10:04pm
cool bike but that thing should be legal to race
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3/31/2016 10:05pm
Nice but new stuff just isnt as trick as the customs from the 70s and 80s from DG DMC etc. Its just got EFI
GuyB wrote:
Um...you missed a few things.
Nope, he didn't miss a thing and I totally agree with him. The Factory Connection project is amazing and I can appreciate their enthusiasm but they are essentially spending cubic dollars to polish a turd.

The DMC minis were ahead of their time in the 80's





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3/31/2016 10:51pm
That is fricken sweet! Thanks for sharing
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much rather the KX80 , awesome looking bike
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I thought it was an april's fool but it looks like a top 5 supermini of all time and currently the fastest one !
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Question wrote:

I thought it was an april's fool but it looks like a top 5 supermini of all time and currently the fastest one !
I am assuming you mean the Kawasaki?
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GuyB wrote:
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while... http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/31/129989/s1200_033116honda150_2_780.jpg[/img]
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while...

http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999

Am I losing it, or are the numbers on the side panel crooked?
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GuyB wrote:
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while... http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/31/129989/s1200_033116honda150_2_780.jpg[/img]
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while...

http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999

kevin204 wrote:
Am I losing it, or are the numbers on the side panel crooked?
Yeah that 2nd "2" looks bad...
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4/1/2016 6:40am
The fuel injection would definatley cure some problems that we have had with the crf 150 r like the stumbling off the jumps we also had carrilo make some connecting rods for them a needed item when your running them near 15000 rpm .They give up some peak to the super minis but make up for it on the bottom and midrange.
4/1/2016 7:31am Edited Date/Time 4/1/2016 7:32am
Great Philosophers have said that the world is increasing in Novelty as time goes by.

I tend to agree with them, as does Honda.

From a technology/boredom point of view it's cool as hell.
4/1/2016 9:03am
I have to agree with the trick mini's from back in the day being cooler. Dave Miller's creations were pure PORN. Amazing work.

With that said, however, I just saw these and these is pretty sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XGXOG8IVPA

And this Honda 60 is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs8Cq9qiu4A
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4/1/2016 12:18pm
Does Honda still make the CRF150?........have not seen one in years.
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4/1/2016 1:10pm
Question wrote:

I thought it was an april's fool but it looks like a top 5 supermini of all time and currently the fastest one !
I would hope so. no way that would be legal for amateur racing. or it shouldn't be
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4/1/2016 3:07pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2016 3:13pm
GuyB wrote:
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while... http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/31/129989/s1200_033116honda150_2_780.jpg[/img]
This is the trickest little bike we've seen in a while...

http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Fuel-Injected-CRF150R,4999

Lol how many rides before it locks up?
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4/1/2016 3:41pm
flomiester wrote:
The fuel injection would definatley cure some problems that we have had with the crf 150 r like the stumbling off the jumps we also had...
The fuel injection would definatley cure some problems that we have had with the crf 150 r like the stumbling off the jumps we also had carrilo make some connecting rods for them a needed item when your running them near 15000 rpm .They give up some peak to the super minis but make up for it on the bottom and midrange.
Best solution for those CRF150s is to remove the handlebars and slide a 125/144 two stroke underneath then reattach handlebars.

Your maintenance costs will be much less and you can replace the top end blindfolded.

Was just thinking on Tuesday while driving what a step back for the sport the CRF150 was for mom and dads race budgets. If you can afford the excellent race lease program they have in Europe this the way to go but for the non high income folks we need to keep in and attract to the sport two strokes are better.

This isn't a two stroke bs four stroke tired rehash as it is an awareness of the obstacles our sport faces bringing people to the sport and equally important keeping them in the sport.

It's always about the $ or at least starts with the $ then next is having a sensible track to ride on. Sounds easy but in 2016 good luck.
4/1/2016 3:46pm
Nice but new stuff just isnt as trick as the customs from the 70s and 80s from DG DMC etc. Its just got EFI
GuyB wrote:
Um...you missed a few things.
Nope, he didn't miss a thing and I totally agree with him. The Factory Connection project is amazing and I can appreciate their enthusiasm but they...
Nope, he didn't miss a thing and I totally agree with him. The Factory Connection project is amazing and I can appreciate their enthusiasm but they are essentially spending cubic dollars to polish a turd.

The DMC minis were ahead of their time in the 80's





How about a real Supermini 125. Or this old DG restore.





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4/1/2016 4:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2016 4:15pm
How about a real Supermini 125. Or this old DG restore. [img]http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd82/WandellAsbell/SXcomMinis/CR85-125.jpg[/img] [img]https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12729407_1994738080751410_754695559_n.jpg[/img]
How about a real Supermini 125. Or this old DG restore.





The Honda is a real beauty. Trick Yamaha is very nice
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4/1/2016 4:17pm
The crf 150 isn't that bad. Not sure why it gets so much flack. With a little updating it could be a great mini weapon.
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4/1/2016 7:33pm
Flatliner wrote:
The crf 150 isn't that bad. Not sure why it gets so much flack. With a little updating it could be a great mini weapon.
Probably because it weighs 185 pounds and most of the tricked out two strokes pictured above weigh 60 pounds less (this is not a typo)

In fact, the DMC super mini's were rumored to be around 115 pounds dry. That's a huge advantage on the track.
4/1/2016 7:39pm
Probably because it weighs 185 pounds and most of the tricked out two strokes pictured above weigh 60 pounds less (this is not a typo) In...
Probably because it weighs 185 pounds and most of the tricked out two strokes pictured above weigh 60 pounds less (this is not a typo)

In fact, the DMC super mini's were rumored to be around 115 pounds dry. That's a huge advantage on the track.
Wow. Thats gnarly.
And above someone posted they were a bit lacking in top end while turning 15,000 RPMs.. Imagine a 150 2 stroke in Mini Frame.

And most 12 year olds can do a 2 stroke top end. Hell, some know how to split cases and do it all by 12 on a 2 stroke.
4/1/2016 11:31pm
Wow. Quite a few bone head comments about a very trick and actual low budget for development build that was made mostly from pulled favors or desire to help out, of loads after hours work and little help from Honda. This is somewhat similar of the after hours development of the initial Yamaha YZ250F by a factory worker who had the vision of a better race bike as the rules allow.
Suppose you work for a race team that very successfully grooms young amateur riders and wants them to be competitive against bikes with more recent development $$$$ and time. Yeah everyone knows they are heavy and everything else, but that is what your team rides so why not do something because you can? And because it also is fun and interesting and changes the day to day grind for these guys and pushes the limit of what they can achieve?

As for the DMC comparison, that's very disrespectful to all involved IMO and also lacking on what you know that is on the inside and where you haven't been shown in the pics and video. It's also has to do with probably knowing yourself a lot more technically and not being wowed by so much as when you were younger. There's quite a bit more going on like every race bike that makes a demo, that your just not going to be able to see.
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Wow. Thats gnarly. And above someone posted they were a bit lacking in top end while turning 15,000 RPMs.. Imagine a 150 2 stroke in Mini...
Wow. Thats gnarly.
And above someone posted they were a bit lacking in top end while turning 15,000 RPMs.. Imagine a 150 2 stroke in Mini Frame.

And most 12 year olds can do a 2 stroke top end. Hell, some know how to split cases and do it all by 12 on a 2 stroke.
We have been racing with CRF150R for few years and when team riders come from 85's the parents have been really happy how much less maintenance it needs compared to two stroke. It's pretty much oil and filter changes and put fuel in the tank. Around 60 hours (although some guys run over 100 hours) change the piston (140€ kit) and intake valves (26€ each) and you are good to go (in less than 200€ total) for another 60 hours. The top end isn't too hard to do as our 13 year old rider could do it himself. If you want to change the top and lower end both it's around 650€ total. Also one thing that parents are happy with is how much less fuel the bike needs. Also no blown engines or anything during these years and haven't seen one at the EMX150 series either.

I'm surprised how passionate some people are on the issue, even thought the have no experience on the bike.
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4/2/2016 12:48am
Wow. Quite a few bone head comments about a very trick and actual low budget for development build that was made mostly from pulled favors or...
Wow. Quite a few bone head comments about a very trick and actual low budget for development build that was made mostly from pulled favors or desire to help out, of loads after hours work and little help from Honda. This is somewhat similar of the after hours development of the initial Yamaha YZ250F by a factory worker who had the vision of a better race bike as the rules allow.
Suppose you work for a race team that very successfully grooms young amateur riders and wants them to be competitive against bikes with more recent development $$$$ and time. Yeah everyone knows they are heavy and everything else, but that is what your team rides so why not do something because you can? And because it also is fun and interesting and changes the day to day grind for these guys and pushes the limit of what they can achieve?

As for the DMC comparison, that's very disrespectful to all involved IMO and also lacking on what you know that is on the inside and where you haven't been shown in the pics and video. It's also has to do with probably knowing yourself a lot more technically and not being wowed by so much as when you were younger. There's quite a bit more going on like every race bike that makes a demo, that your just not going to be able to see.
It sounds like this guy knows what he's talking about. Smile

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