Female Motocross Recognition?

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3/25/2018 8:51 AM

This was mentioned on the Indy SX broadcast.

Do female riders/racers get enough recognition?

If we had a pie chart of motocross participation, how big is the female slice?

Can anything be done to bring more females to the sport? I believe more participation will result in more recognition, but how can we accomplish this?

I also believe if women/girls race non-female specific classes and hold their own, that would increase recognition. Is this true, and if so how do we accomplish this?








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3/25/2018 9:02 AM

I'm all for pushing for better equality.... but at the end of the day, you can't force people to care about something. You have to inspire them to care.

They had pro womens racing at many of the outdoor nationals a few years ago. Can't recall exactly why they no longer do it, but not sure how much more of a chance for recognition you can give than that, without shoving it down peoples throats... which is simply counterproductive.

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3/25/2018 9:25 AM

Simple. Doctor up some before and after photos showing a girl gaining this voluptuous, perky, Brazilian ass after 1 month of riding a dirt bike, put it on the internet and every female with a job will be going down to the dealership.

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3/25/2018 9:44 AM

F150Motocrosser wrote:

I'm all for pushing for better equality.... but at the end of the day, you can't force people to care about something. You ...more

Last year at High Point they put the WMX gals in their first moto between the 250/450 dudes and 2nd moto after the dudes were finished... Major rain on Friday postponed their scheduled Friday slot to Saturday. They got major exposure.

It was amusing. I recall the winner smoked them all in both motos.

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3/26/2018 4:57 AM

This might be generous....Photo

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3/26/2018 6:00 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/26/2018 6:03 AM

MXA mentioned they should hold the WMX motos before the Pro Men's motos during the outdoor nationals because it didn't do the women's speed justice after watching the men.

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3/26/2018 6:32 AM

I would really like to see the women get more exposure, and I would actually watch every second of it. Those top women would smoke 80% of the weekend warriors who watch the races. My wife raced her whole life and did Lorretta's and all the amatuer nationals every year and she ripped. She stopped because there was no money in it for women. Now we have 2 daughters, and the oldest will be getting a PW50 in a year or so. This had me thinking where will womens racing be in 18 years..., which turned to me thinking where will pro racing in general be in 18 years?

Either way my opinions a little biased because the women in my life ride, but I have watched some of these girls ride and they haul ass, and if they showed womens racing on TV I would watch it. I wish they had a women's supercross class. If they go to the Triple Crown format full time, I think having a Womens class would help fill in some of the dead time we have all been complaining about...

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3/26/2018 7:01 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/26/2018 7:02 AM

Devenhallen wrote:

This might be generous....Photo

That looks about right. I can can't on one hand the number of women I saw riding a dirt bike when and where I was riding. It is too bad more of them are not interested.

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3/26/2018 9:09 AM

F150Motocrosser wrote:

I'm all for pushing for better equality.... but at the end of the day, you can't force people to care about something. You ...more

Besides the obvious problem that all women sports have a real small audience and Motocross being even smaller they put the women in between the guys Moto's so everyone would be in the pits getting autographs and seeing the guys while the women were out on the track which definitely doesn't help things. They don't even fill the gates for the women's classes at Loretta's that should tell you something else right there as well.

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3/26/2018 9:31 AM

GNCC chicks rip. They start on the front row of the AM race and usually contend for the O/A. Also GNCC has pro, B and I think C women's classes.

I've always enjoyed women's sports. They're intense and crazy competitive.

Idk if I'm alone but I pay attention to the women's races at the GNCC.

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3/26/2018 9:33 AM

fast riders get recognition.

what even IS recognition? why do ppl need so much validation anyhow. joy of riding is internal. ffs

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3/26/2018 9:40 AM

YamahaJT1 wrote:

Last year at High Point they put the WMX gals in their first moto between the 250/450 dudes and 2nd moto after the dudes were ...more

It was cool to see the women out there but the race wasn't very impressive (sorry to say but its the truth). My wife and I watched the first race and if I recall the leader had a huge gap but then crashed and I think still won. My wife did appreciate seeing the women out there but 10 minutes was more than enough. We didn't stick around (like most people) after the race to watch Moto 2.

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3/26/2018 9:58 AM

^ this, You cant force it...... What Feld needs is a woman that can compete weekly with the men not a women class. Just as an example I will use the great Jackie Robinson, he let his playing earn him the spot on the field and respect from the players.

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3/26/2018 10:39 AM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

^ this, You cant force it...... What Feld needs is a woman that can compete weekly with the men not a women class. Just as an ...more

This is ridiculous, women and men are different, why would they have to compete with guys at the top level in a sport that is as physical as motocross? It's like saying women and men should play hockey or run 100meters against each other, that would give women no chance to succeed at the highest level. There should be a women class and to grow it (and any growth of motocross as a sport is great) they should give them some exposure.

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3/26/2018 10:45 AM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

^ this, You cant force it...... What Feld needs is a woman that can compete weekly with the men not a women class. Just as an ...more

One tried already and came up way short... Only made a night show when there were under 40 people signed up. It was cool to see her out there, but she was way off the pace. Women just don't have the strength that men do.

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3/26/2018 10:48 AM

Some one is oppressing them. Not allowing them the proper recognition they are supposed to be getting.

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3/26/2018 10:51 AM

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3/26/2018 10:52 AM

Well the problem is people want to watch the best at anything compete. Yes there are some fast women, but there isn’t a lot of them, and compared to the guys it isn’t much fun to watch on a big scale. Maybe at local races and stuff, but if you go to a national or supercross 99% there aren’t worried about who will win the women’s class. Just the way it is. Their friends, family, and a select few hardcore fans might care to watch, but that’s bout it. Women rule men and men rule dirt bikes. Fair enough lol

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3/26/2018 10:52 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/26/2018 10:54 AM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

^ this, You cant force it...... What Feld needs is a woman that can compete weekly with the men not a women class. Just as an ...more

Mike_Frisk wrote:

This is ridiculous, women and men are different, why would they have to compete with guys at the top level in a sport that is ...more

Understandable, but should a male do more combat in the military and be paid the same as a woman who cant fight and run as fast? Equality works both ways right?

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3/26/2018 12:44 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

^ this, You cant force it...... What Feld needs is a woman that can compete weekly with the men not a women class. Just as an ...more

Mike_Frisk wrote:

This is ridiculous, women and men are different, why would they have to compete with guys at the top level in a sport that is ...more

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

Understandable, but should a male do more combat in the military and be paid the same as a woman who cant fight and run as ...more

It's not even about equality. The sports way too small. The sport can barely even support the guys and at that not that many of them let alone the women. They tried it for 5 years ago and it fell apart I'm not sure why would they would try and revive it again nothing's changed. I would say just let them continue racing the way it is right now at least for the women they know there's no future in it so they can enjoy riding and Racing for what it is and nothing more






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3/26/2018 12:53 PM

fins227 wrote:

GNCC chicks rip. They start on the front row of the AM race and usually contend for the O/A. Also GNCC has pro, B and I think ...more

There's about 3 or so Pro females that beat the top C riders in the GNCC's usually. When I was about 14 and transitioned from MX to offroad I had no idea what to expect. I hopped in the C class at a GNCC and won the class. I also beat every female pro. The cream of the crop females would be top 5 in B and around top 10 in A.

I'm not trying to discredit them because they are fast. But its hard to justify all of this when their top female pros probably wouldn't win Loretta's in the C class.

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3/26/2018 12:56 PM

female cycling works because it's more accessible to the average individual, including women.

the sport has a large accessibility problem that is encompasses much more than the gender question.

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3/26/2018 1:06 PM

MELTON139 wrote:

I would really like to see the women get more exposure, and I would actually watch every second of it. Those top women would ...more

There was only 11 women racing at the last WMX national this past Saturday. Of those 11, only 3 are skilled enough to actually "race' around a SX track. Do you really want to watch 3 women race against each other at a SX??

The simple answer is there in no ROI for professional womens mx right now. I feel really bad for the women that are fast but the cold hard truth is that women will not be able to retire from racing mx. I'm not sure if JP$ and Ashley Fiolek were able to make enough money to retire but they are the only 2 that I know of that were making a decent living racing. Hell only the top 5-6%of men will be able to retire and not have to work again. This is exactly why my wife stopped racing once she graduated high school and went to college. She was at the top of the sport, had a factory ride and could've made some good money for a couple of years. She was smart enough to know that mx wouldn't afford her the future she wanted in life. Our daughter will ride/race if that's what she wants to do but she will know it isn't a career choice.

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3/26/2018 1:11 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/26/2018 1:12 PM

Is there a big female side to basically any sport though? A few but not many, and with how small motocross is, it's not surprising. Men are just better suited and the difference between the two is absurd and unfortunately for them, people always want to see the best.
Although at some levels I almost think they can have it better. For example it's a lot easier for a girl to enter a local race, chose the pro womens class and come 5th and win some money than it would be for a guy to race the A or pro class and come 5th. Definitely can't be a career for them though.

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3/26/2018 1:39 PM

tkimb wrote:

Is there a big female side to basically any sport though? A few but not many, and with how small motocross is, it's not ...more

not really. our 'society' right now is obsessed with catering to the small quantity of fringe (of anything) often at the expense of the mainstream. what pronouns would you like to be referred to with? what species do you identify as?

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3/26/2018 1:45 PM

tkimb wrote:

Is there a big female side to basically any sport though? A few but not many, and with how small motocross is, it's not ...more

Gymnastics and Figure Skating...just saying

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3/26/2018 2:15 PM

MELTON139 wrote:

I would really like to see the women get more exposure, and I would actually watch every second of it. Those top women would ...more

JBlain619 wrote:

There was only 11 women racing at the last WMX national this past Saturday. Of those 11, only 3 are skilled enough to actually ...more

You hit the nail on the head of everything I'd be willing to guess also the only reason those women were really making money was that was kind of the height of women's Pro Racing and they were still trying to promote it. You knew it was a bad deal when the first year they had 12 races the next year they had eight and then four and then it was done. I feel for the women too but the sports just too small is the biggest problem

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3/26/2018 10:54 PM

milliebays wrote:

female cycling works because it's more accessible to the average individual, including women.

the sport has a large ...more

It also helps when your sport is an olympic sport like cycling is. At least over here, where athletes capable of getting into the olympics get a salary from the national olympic comite as well as investment in the training infrastructure (coach, materials, etc.). It is why we have a bunch of 'professional' female cyclist, but even professional BMX riders (and i seriously wonder if there are more then 2.500 bmx riders in the Netherlands in total).

As for female MX: I think the system in the GP's is great for both females as well as 85cc/125cc youth: Let them race during the GP weekends which works as a catalyst to get the level up and also offer the female riders a better way to get some attention and therefor sponsorship. They won't make any serious money anytime soon, which i also think is fair because to be honest i don't think they have a significant effect on (bike) sales on the moment (which is what drives most sponsorships).

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3/27/2018 2:40 AM

I have travelled with my wife the last 3 seasons racing WMX and Canadian rounds so I've followed this very closely. Taking registration numbers or talent couts fro WMX races is not a fair judgement. Wmx is not healthy and there are a TON of fast girls who just don't race wmx because of what it is and white runs it.

Wmx in it's hayday with JP, fiolek, Geiger, was ran by another woman and then mx sports bought it out, ran it into the ground, and now has their "C" team trying to organize it. The schedule doesn't come out until 2 weeks before Daytona and the rules are made up as you're lining up on the gate.

The current Fasnacht/Hodges battles are awesome, and the new blood coming up is actually very good with Jarvis, Astudillo, and others. They are not comparable to Tomac and Anderson, but on their own it is great racing and would be marketable.

Look at the effort the NFL and other major org's have pit into attracting a female audience. Girls at the tracks may account for 10% of the riders max, but marketing wise your missing out on 50% of the population by not trying to bring females in

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3/27/2018 2:42 AM

Bry145 wrote:

This was mentioned on the Indy SX broadcast.

Do female riders/racers get enough recognition?

If we had a pie chart of ...more

"Can anything be done to bring more females to the sport?"

Stop the sexist, macho bullshit that is pit girls, monster girls, 30 second board girls - all the softcore porn. Basically, if motocross was advertised as if the target demographic was people, not dicks with wallets attached, then maybe women would be interested.

I have no idea why all these companies exclude half of every age group/income level/ethnicity in all their advertising. It makes zero sense to me.

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