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Beta480RX wrote:

The Lawrence's should have ZERO issue with Chase on a near identical Honda but in a different truck/team.They should relish the chance to beat him on...

The Lawrence's should have ZERO issue with Chase on a near identical Honda but in a different truck/team.

They should relish the chance to beat him on an identical bike more than if he was on something else, because now the bike can't be used as an excuse.

As long as it doesn't hinder Jett or Hunter getting new parts first, if they or Dazzy have a problem with Chase on a Honda that says something about the Lawrence family that isn't in a good light. I don't see that as the case. It is just going to push them to succeed even more, to prove to everyone that it ISN'T the bike that makes any part of the difference, that it is all them.

I'd much rather beat my competition with as much equal as possible to know it was me that made that difference, than knowing I had such superior equipment that it didn't matter and the outcome was preordained as long as I didn't mess it up.

matze wrote:

Since when did it become a thing that riders just get to decide which teammates they have? Or in Chase's case, do you really think the...

Since when did it become a thing that riders just get to decide which teammates they have? Or in Chase's case, do you really think the Lawrences step in and say Nahh he can't ride for Quad Lock Honda, he gonna beat our ass on equal material!! and the people actually in charge just go, "Oki doki, if you say so"? 👌🤔. 

I understand that it's a team decision, and I'm sure the riders are consulted and their opinions are taken into account. But at the end of the day theyre not the ones investing in those riders?? I could be wrong, but I really dont think their influence is as significant as some of you make it out to be

Sandberm656 wrote:

How cool is it going to be when Chase wins A1?

RDnutz wrote:

about as cool as him riding around in a Cybertruck?

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I think he will be on a Quadlock Honda with another Truck and team built around him similar to the Progressive deal that allowed Kenny to...

I think he will be on a Quadlock Honda with another Truck and team built around him similar to the Progressive deal that allowed Kenny to keep his personal sponsors and big pay from Fox and Red Bull. 

I think it will be some mix of Monster Energy Honda or Monster Energy Quadlock Honda.  I saw  on a  Swap moto live ( SML) video that Monster  helped Chase get out of his Kawasaki contract. I've been thinking  they will play a bigger part in this than people have suspected.  Quadlock now has a team gear deal like the Twisted Tea Suzuki team did/does that resulted in the "second" team being built around Kenny.  . 

 

Pipes built Chase an RMZ to ride too according to that same video. Maybe this is all old news, I've assumed that each team that was talking with Chase that was a real option would have built him a bike to try. But that was the first time I heard it confirmed . If he went to Suzuki I bet that they have him and Anderson in a Truck together with  Monster energy  worked into the team name. 

 

SML were also throwing out the idea of riding a 26 Honda and that opening up access to more HRC parts and support.  I was thinking that could be the way to go too. I think it would allow them to get a bike that Chase would like and be comfortable on  the quickest. They could likely use the settings from Sextons last Honda as a base to start with.  Motoconcepts raced older Hondas one year when an all new bike came out that resulted in a similar lack of parts and testing data. Factory Honda has done it with McGrath riding the 93 frame up  until they went to aluminum.  I can see reasons why HRC would not want Sexton on last years bike, beating the current bike being one. I think that anybody that follows the sport close enough understands that the team race bikes are already so different from what you buy from a dealer , that its not going to hurt Honda's rep. And if they run the new bodywork, the people who do not know how different a race bike is from what they can buy, will not know its not a 27 anyway.   

 

 I could see Chase on  a 26 CRF with some HRC parts and the 2027 bodywork on the 26 chassis.  And Monster Energy playing a big part in the team.   These are my guesses  that I made with the limited info that I've seen publicly available.  

twotwosix wrote:

Chase won 2 SX races last year. He will probably win at least that many this year. Honda is not going to want their 2026 winning...

Chase won 2 SX races last year. He will probably win at least that many this year. Honda is not going to want their 2026 winning a SX race and being parked up on the podium. They will want a 2027 being raced by someone like Chase, even if they can’t yet support him with a full factory satellite bike. You also have to remember that Chase won Honda a 450 Supercross championship, Japan won’t forget that. 

Spoonguy wrote:

Quadlock seems like a huge mistake.

avidchimp wrote:

Why?

Spoonguy wrote:

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the...

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the Lawrences? If Hunter and Jett are cruising to wins and podiums and Chase is not while bitching how will that go? What exactly would be the upside, does anyone besides Chase really think he can beat the Lawrences on equal machinery, let alone a step behind? He is starting with only a few weeks to really prepare now, look how long it took him on the KTM to get comfy with full support, big mistake.

Spoonguy wrote:

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the...

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the Lawrences? If Hunter and Jett are cruising to wins and podiums and Chase is not while bitching how will that go? What exactly would be the upside, does anyone besides Chase really think he can beat the Lawrences on equal machinery, let alone a step behind? He is starting with only a few weeks to really prepare now, look how long it took him on the KTM to get comfy with full support, big mistake.

avidchimp wrote:

Or, hypothetically speaking here as I don't know all the details, Honda knows that Jett's injury is still an issue, especially indoors, and they are hedging...

Or, hypothetically speaking here as I don't know all the details, Honda knows that Jett's injury is still an issue, especially indoors, and they are hedging their bets against that. Either way if you think the Lawrence family cares if Honda throws some transmissions and ECU/tuning help Quadlock's way for Chase, I have some beach front property in New Mexico to sell you.

It's a win/win for Honda in my opinion. Chase has proven to the masses he can't figure out what he wants, so if it goes sideways that's on him. If he figures it out and wins races, then all the better for all involved.

Now the x-factor is if the brothers don't win because of the bike, then all bets are off.

Spoonguy wrote:

After years of loyalty to Honda you think the Lawrence's would be cool if Honda gave a chief competitor of theirs comparable support? Especially after Chase...

After years of loyalty to Honda you think the Lawrence's would be cool if Honda gave a chief competitor of theirs comparable support? Especially after Chase shit talked the team? Do you think Shimoda is going to be happy with Chase getting support on a 450 when he is waiting to move up? How many non podium finishes or wrecks will it take for Chase to complain about the Honda and his lack of support? This puts Honda in a situation that if Chase is competitive it is because he is supposed to be, and if Chase isn't competitive the team is bad.

avidchimp wrote:

Why?

Spoonguy wrote:

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the...

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the Lawrences? If Hunter and Jett are cruising to wins and podiums and Chase is not while bitching how will that go? What exactly would be the upside, does anyone besides Chase really think he can beat the Lawrences on equal machinery, let alone a step behind? He is starting with only a few weeks to really prepare now, look how long it took him on the KTM to get comfy with full support, big mistake.

ando wrote:

Ok, in isolation what you say makes some sense, but it's not like Chase is choosing to join a non-factory team.  If anything other than factory...

Ok, in isolation what you say makes some sense, but it's not like Chase is choosing to join a non-factory team.  If anything other than factory is a mistake, then what are his options?  Where else is he going to get close to factory support that isn't already full?

truck wrote:

I think people have had their view of parts availability warped by the entirely new manufacturers bringing bikes to the market lately. How many aftermarket parts worth...

I think people have had their view of parts availability warped by the entirely new manufacturers bringing bikes to the market lately. 

How many aftermarket parts worth having aren't already well on their way to consumer production for the 27 Honda? There's a ton of them listed for sale right now, I'm sure all the major aftermarket players have gotten their hands on one. It's one of the biggest brands and best selling bike out there, not a Ducati 250 being released for the first time ever. 

With Honda support, this is a total non issue. There would be two guys ahead of him in line for parts. You guys act like making 3 of something instead of 2 of something is some insurmountable hurdle. 

Spoonguy wrote:

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the...

Yarrive will need Honda support, how much will Chase get when Honda have spent and are spending millions of dollars and years of time on the Lawrences? If Hunter and Jett are cruising to wins and podiums and Chase is not while bitching how will that go? What exactly would be the upside, does anyone besides Chase really think he can beat the Lawrences on equal machinery, let alone a step behind? He is starting with only a few weeks to really prepare now, look how long it took him on the KTM to get comfy with full support, big mistake.

ando wrote:

Ok, in isolation what you say makes some sense, but it's not like Chase is choosing to join a non-factory team.  If anything other than factory...

Ok, in isolation what you say makes some sense, but it's not like Chase is choosing to join a non-factory team.  If anything other than factory is a mistake, then what are his options?  Where else is he going to get close to factory support that isn't already full?

Last2Stroke wrote: