Sexton leaving Kawasaki?

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RDnutz wrote:
amazing Chase never had your superior insight before riding the bike and signing a 3-year deal intending to ride out his contract like every other time...

amazing Chase never had your superior insight before riding the bike and signing a 3-year deal intending to ride out his contract like every other time in his career.

Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables (George and Chase). 

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amazing Chase never had your superior insight before riding the bike and signing a 3-year deal intending to ride out his contract like every other time...

amazing Chase never had your superior insight before riding the bike and signing a 3-year deal intending to ride out his contract like every other time in his career.

Yeah well, he made a mistake signing for them. I'm sure he would admit that off-record.

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Jorge's whole fiasco aside (which he has now shown his opinion about himself and Kawi was correct - amazing I know, explains the 4 world titles)...

Jorge's whole fiasco aside (which he has now shown his opinion about himself and Kawi was correct - amazing I know, explains the 4 world titles), Chase blames his knee injury on the bike, it was spluttering at Thunder Valley according to multiple people and nobody would crash like that on purpose either. Is Chase probably hard to deal with? I'm sure he is - most elite level people are a bit weird in any environment, but you cant blame the guy either, how does a factory level team have a spluttering EFI-equipped bike? How does a factory level team need to consult with a 3rd party ECU tuner? How does a factory level team get into a situation with their star rider forcing their hand to let him leave and then they just change nothing and the very next superstar they sign is wanting out after a year too? We know they were both huge contracts and riders are choosing to LEAVE - how is that not the main consideration lol. Chase has ridden out his contract at every prior brand and I believe always had contracts to stay so as much you guys cry "headcase" he always sees out the duration of his contract, until Kawi. Same for Prado - super brand loyal guy until the US Kawi nightmare.

THAT is probably the most accurate, clear-headed post on the Sexton/Kawasaki debacle I've read since it all began. 

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Goon645 wrote:
Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables...

Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables (George and Chase). 

do you happen to belong to a labor union. I see 2 distinct sides here: 1 blaming the company no matter what and 1 blaming the riders for poor decisions THEY made and undermining the contract commitment they made through their actions to get their way, like spoiled children. I was raised with the mantra "you made your bed, now sleep in it". Apparently, that kind of integrity in no longer valued.

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Goon645 wrote:
Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables...

Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables (George and Chase). 

RDnutz wrote:
do you happen to belong to a labor union. I see 2 distinct sides here: 1 blaming the company no matter what and 1 blaming the...

do you happen to belong to a labor union. I see 2 distinct sides here: 1 blaming the company no matter what and 1 blaming the riders for poor decisions THEY made and undermining the contract commitment they made through their actions to get their way, like spoiled children. I was raised with the mantra "you made your bed, now sleep in it". Apparently, that kind of integrity in no longer valued.

Maybe Kawasaki isn't fulfilling their side of the contract?  Would you still stay in that bed?

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Goon645 wrote:
Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables...

Amazing that a situation repeats itself almost exactly 1 year apart and instead of looking at the common denominator (Team) you look at the 2 variables (George and Chase). 

RDnutz wrote:
do you happen to belong to a labor union. I see 2 distinct sides here: 1 blaming the company no matter what and 1 blaming the...

do you happen to belong to a labor union. I see 2 distinct sides here: 1 blaming the company no matter what and 1 blaming the riders for poor decisions THEY made and undermining the contract commitment they made through their actions to get their way, like spoiled children. I was raised with the mantra "you made your bed, now sleep in it". Apparently, that kind of integrity in no longer valued.

You were raised wrong. Get up and remake your bed, lazy bones.

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Maybe Kawasaki isn't fulfilling their side of the contract?  Would you still stay in that bed?

Proof?

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You were raised wrong. Get up and remake your bed, lazy bones.

lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care in the world. enjoy it while you can bc reality is a bitch when you're out there on your own with nothing handed to you.

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Proof?

bike shuts off in the air

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3strokemx wrote:

Maybe Kawasaki isn't fulfilling their side of the contract?  Would you still stay in that bed?

RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

Chase & Jorge

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Proof?

3strokemx wrote:

bike shuts off in the air

due to his toe tap on brake that was just as valid a reason as a couple phantom burbles some people assumed was bad ECU.

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Maybe Kawasaki isn't fulfilling their side of the contract?  Would you still stay in that bed?

RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

matze wrote:

Chase & Jorge

that's not proof, that's an unsubstantiated opinion. try again.

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3strokemx wrote:

Maybe Kawasaki isn't fulfilling their side of the contract?  Would you still stay in that bed?

RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

Jorge destroying marchbanks when everyone said marchbanks was gonna have his number because of marchbanks experience in sx and his work ethic etc


Now that Jorge has a proper bike he’s taking marchbanks to gapplebees.


 

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No one’s heard anything new?

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RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

matze wrote:

Chase & Jorge

RDnutz wrote:

that's not proof, that's an unsubstantiated opinion. try again.

Results are facts, not an opinion.

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RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

3strokemx wrote:

bike shuts off in the air

RDnutz wrote:

due to his toe tap on brake that was just as valid a reason as a couple phantom burbles some people assumed was bad ECU.

Doesn't look like he tapped the brake
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3strokemx wrote:

bike shuts off in the air

RDnutz wrote:

due to his toe tap on brake that was just as valid a reason as a couple phantom burbles some people assumed was bad ECU.

3strokemx wrote:
Doesn't look like he tapped the brake

Doesn't look like he tapped the brake
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The bike was gurgling all day per multiple sources. Marchbanks also had issues during that race and even made gestures when passing by the mechanics area indicating something was going on with the bike. It's pretty obvious it wasn't Chase's fault. Can't believe we're still talking about this.
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lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care...

lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care in the world. enjoy it while you can bc reality is a bitch when you're out there on your own with nothing handed to you.

🤣🤣🤣🤣. Dude you are arguing with multiple people here but okay. Thanks for fitting us into your busy schedule where you aren’t probably in a basement just chatting shit on the web. Look bro you can’t have Weimer, Chase and Jorge have very overt/out in the open team criticisms that are all very similar and also long standing murmurings that they were always rigid on the bike’s base setup + then blame the 2 most recent guys who have Mxgp AND AMA mx + sx titles. That’s not smoke that’s …whatever more than smoke is. Everyone in Team Kawi have amazing resumes and success, I’m not saying it’s any of them either. But something is up - does the bike just literally suck? Febvre apparently has a pretty oem frame so that explanation doesn’t make sense either. I await your wisdom on this 

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You were raised wrong. Get up and remake your bed, lazy bones.

RDnutz wrote:
lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care...

lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care in the world. enjoy it while you can bc reality is a bitch when you're out there on your own with nothing handed to you.

LoL...trying so hard to make a point ,  then decides to break out the lame / worn out  "mom's basement in your pajamas" routine and pretty much goes belly up on this topic.

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Kawi and Chase is really the meeting of a resistible force and a movable object: a team that had just gone through a bike setup fiasco and a guy who has convinced himself that every bike setup is horrible and responsible for hm losing the front end

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RDnutz wrote:

due to his toe tap on brake that was just as valid a reason as a couple phantom burbles some people assumed was bad ECU.

3strokemx wrote:
Doesn't look like he tapped the brake

Doesn't look like he tapped the brake
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The bike was gurgling all day per multiple sources. Marchbanks also had issues during that race and even made gestures when passing by the mechanics area...
The bike was gurgling all day per multiple sources. Marchbanks also had issues during that race and even made gestures when passing by the mechanics area indicating something was going on with the bike. It's pretty obvious it wasn't Chase's fault. Can't believe we're still talking about this.

I find this misfire claim highly suspicious. An efi 4T has to be very far off on the tune or have a mechanical failure to sputter. And if it did, I'd imagine Chase and/or the Kawi team would have enough sense to pull in and inspect the bike. 

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You were raised wrong. Get up and remake your bed, lazy bones.

RDnutz wrote:
lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care...

lol. life must be really good for you pampered youngsters living in mom's basement playing on her internet all day in your pajamas without a care in the world. enjoy it while you can bc reality is a bitch when you're out there on your own with nothing handed to you.

I see your lol and raise you a lmao! 🤣 

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I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!

I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they are down to the "my dad can beat up your dad" level gave me such a chuckle  😂😂😂

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Kawi and Chase is really the meeting of a resistible force and a movable object: a team that had just gone through a bike setup fiasco...

Kawi and Chase is really the meeting of a resistible force and a movable object: a team that had just gone through a bike setup fiasco and a guy who has convinced himself that every bike setup is horrible and responsible for hm losing the front end

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RDnutz wrote:

Proof?

matze wrote:

Chase & Jorge

RDnutz wrote:

that's not proof, that's an unsubstantiated opinion. try again.

More like eyewitness testimony from subject matter experts. People have been convicted on much less. 

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I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they...

I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!

I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they are down to the "my dad can beat up your dad" level gave me such a chuckle  😂😂😂

Late season Prado success has some people shook. 6 weeks ago they could still tell themselves he really didn't have that much better of a year..... 

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USA wrote:
I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they...

I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!

I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they are down to the "my dad can beat up your dad" level gave me such a chuckle  😂😂😂

truck wrote:

Late season Prado success has some people shook. 6 weeks ago they could still tell themselves he really didn't have that much better of a year..... 

Bro what? Fastest qualy in multiple sx. Podium in sx. Podiums in Mx. won smx. Podiumed first sx with Ktm. 

Won a title. Yeah you’re right , it really wasn’t much different than kawi….

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USA wrote:
I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they...

I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!

I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they are down to the "my dad can beat up your dad" level gave me such a chuckle  😂😂😂

Every once in a while just when Im thinking vital is losing its luster, the vitards come out in force and remind me what a special place this really is! 😂

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USA wrote:
I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they...

I love a good crashout!! Off-season delivering early this year!

I did not expect to see someone white knighting for kawi still, and the fact that they are down to the "my dad can beat up your dad" level gave me such a chuckle  😂😂😂

truck wrote:

Late season Prado success has some people shook. 6 weeks ago they could still tell themselves he really didn't have that much better of a year..... 

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Bro what? Fastest qualy in multiple sx. Podium in sx. Podiums in Mx. won smx. Podiumed first sx with Ktm. Won a title. Yeah you’re right...

Bro what? Fastest qualy in multiple sx. Podium in sx. Podiums in Mx. won smx. Podiumed first sx with Ktm. 

Won a title. Yeah you’re right , it really wasn’t much different than kawi….

You forgot won ironman and his class at mxon. 

He obviously had a much better year, but if you're team kawi and were still in denial and clinging to no wins, that all disappeared in the last 6 weeks. 

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truck wrote:

Late season Prado success has some people shook. 6 weeks ago they could still tell themselves he really didn't have that much better of a year..... 

30minmotos wrote:
Bro what? Fastest qualy in multiple sx. Podium in sx. Podiums in Mx. won smx. Podiumed first sx with Ktm. Won a title. Yeah you’re right...

Bro what? Fastest qualy in multiple sx. Podium in sx. Podiums in Mx. won smx. Podiumed first sx with Ktm. 

Won a title. Yeah you’re right , it really wasn’t much different than kawi….

truck wrote:
You forgot won ironman and his class at mxon. He obviously had a much better year, but if you're team kawi and were still in denial and...

You forgot won ironman and his class at mxon. 

He obviously had a much better year, but if you're team kawi and were still in denial and clinging to no wins, that all disappeared in the last 6 weeks. 

Ahhhh got it!  Yeah kawis looking like they should clean house for sure.

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