why didn't RV go ahead and lap Stewart

motoxxx599 3/6/2011 11:41am
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He didnt want to get landed on.
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motoxxx599 wrote:
He didnt want to get landed on.
just thinking that myself. RV figgured it was safer to ride behind the dude.LOL
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jordan414 3/6/2011 12:11pm
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jordan414 wrote:
Didn't Carmichael do it in 06? I think stewart crashed out of the lead in that race too.
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Does this mean RV isn't as good as RC?
I was just wondering...jeez
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RaceFace 3/6/2011 12:16pm
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I thought it was smart, make an injured Stewart do another lap....maybe he'll wad it up again. Plus it could allow a situation where Stewart crashes into him. Who needs that?

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petie11o5 3/6/2011 12:38pm
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GuyB wrote:
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James...
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James. I was just worried about Chad and making sure (I knew) what he was gaining on me. If it was a lot, then go a little harder. If not, just maintain it and run the laps down."
RV2 has a clear head and doesn't seem like the type to "Rub It In". He's all class and knows what he has to do to win the championship. Like he said in a Transworld Interview...Aldon knows James' weaknesses and it appears it is working to RV2's advantage.
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jbond722 wrote:
RV2 couldn't catch him after he got back up. The only reason RV even got close was because james backed it down a little the last...
RV2 couldn't catch him after he got back up. The only reason RV even got close was because james backed it down a little the last few laps. Everyone in the daytona stadium knows who was still the fastest rider last night. Crash or not...
Yes, we all know that JS is the fastest man on the planet, but get your facts right. Last night after the crash RV ran faster
laps in 12 out of 15 laps. He could of passed him, but he made the decision not too for whatever reason. I'm guessing
that some of those in attendance could put 2 and 2 together and know that the only way you can catch up with someone
is to by going faster.
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kongols 3/6/2011 1:04pm
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Uncleof2 wrote:
Yes, we all know that JS is the fastest man on the planet, but get your facts right. Last night after the crash RV ran faster...
Yes, we all know that JS is the fastest man on the planet, but get your facts right. Last night after the crash RV ran faster
laps in 12 out of 15 laps. He could of passed him, but he made the decision not too for whatever reason. I'm guessing
that some of those in attendance could put 2 and 2 together and know that the only way you can catch up with someone
is to by going faster.
I just checked lap times and I think your post is pure water unless he had 1.18 lap at the end of the race.
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SMITH201 3/6/2011 1:11pm
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Well, James isnt the safest person to ride around so there was no need. I bet James wised he would have lapped him so he wouldnt have to do that extra lap.
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Uncleof2 3/6/2011 1:13pm
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kongols wrote:
I just checked lap times and I think your post is pure water unless he had 1.18 lap at the end of the race.
Where did you check those lap times because I went to www.amasupercross.com and under individual times Ryan and
James lap times are right next to each other. If I'm wrong I will certainly admit it, but I don't like to be wrong so I usually
research something to refute what someone else states. Kongols you are vehement fan of James and I know you will
have more good weeks in the future, he's amazing when he stay up.
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kongols 3/6/2011 1:22pm
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Uncleof2 wrote:
Where did you check those lap times because I went to www.amasupercross.com and under individual times Ryan and James lap times are right next to each...
Where did you check those lap times because I went to www.amasupercross.com and under individual times Ryan and
James lap times are right next to each other. If I'm wrong I will certainly admit it, but I don't like to be wrong so I usually
research something to refute what someone else states. Kongols you are vehement fan of James and I know you will
have more good weeks in the future, he's amazing when he stay up.
I did too, but look at it this way. Stewart was a lap down so his, for example, lap 11 is RV`s lap 12 and when you follow it that way you can clearly see that somebody was maintaining same distance between two of them, as when ones lap time drops or goes up the other does the same. Was it RV with Reed behind him that just went Stewarts pace?! I don`t think so. Like RC said there is no way in hell Stewart will let RV lap him. It`s a mental thing..
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James can't keep it on two wheels when trying to stay in front of RV . By not lapping James , RV gave him another opportunity to land on his head again .
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My opinion is that nobody wanted to be the next one to lawn dart and they were being very careful--RV, CR, and RD. James doesn't really think about that much. RV could have clicked it up a gear, taken a few chances and lapped James...but, decided 25 points was more important.
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GuyB wrote:
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James...
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James. I was just worried about Chad and making sure (I knew) what he was gaining on me. If it was a lot, then go a little harder. If not, just maintain it and run the laps down."
petie11o5 wrote:
RV2 has a clear head and doesn't seem like the type to "Rub It In". He's all class and knows what he has to do to...
RV2 has a clear head and doesn't seem like the type to "Rub It In". He's all class and knows what he has to do to win the championship. Like he said in a Transworld Interview...Aldon knows James' weaknesses and it appears it is working to RV2's advantage.
X2, excellent post.
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eb313 3/6/2011 1:51pm
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jbond722 wrote:
RV2 couldn't catch him after he got back up. The only reason RV even got close was because james backed it down a little the last...
RV2 couldn't catch him after he got back up. The only reason RV even got close was because james backed it down a little the last few laps. Everyone in the daytona stadium knows who was still the fastest rider last night. Crash or not...
and everyone knows who actually won the race too.
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rallendude 3/6/2011 1:52pm
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Wrong again Kongol. The hole conversation is about why RV did NOT lap James. They were on the same lap all night otherwise he would have one less lap shown in the list.
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rallendude 3/6/2011 1:55pm
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Plus if you do look at it that way RV was like 2 sec a lap faster. He was catching him after the crash except for a few laps.
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kongols 3/6/2011 1:57pm
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rallendude wrote:
Wrong again Kongol. The hole conversation is about why RV did NOT lap James. They were on the same lap all night otherwise he would have...
Wrong again Kongol. The hole conversation is about why RV did NOT lap James. They were on the same lap all night otherwise he would have one less lap shown in the list.
You didn`t get it. Stewart was about 5-10 sec in front of RV and as he completes lap 11, RV completes lap12 5-10 sec later. Look at the lap times and you can see that somebody was maintaining same gap through last almost 8 laps.

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If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped him but to say RV wasnt catching him is just shoving your head in the sand, it was right there in front of everyone.
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eb313 wrote:
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped...
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped him but to say RV wasnt catching him is just shoving your head in the sand, it was right there in front of everyone.
x2

Just watched the race again... RV was clearly just following James around, not pushing it, and was only a couple bike lengths behind on the last lap before slowing to throw a couple whips.
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kongols 3/6/2011 2:07pm
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eb313 wrote:
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped...
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped him but to say RV wasnt catching him is just shoving your head in the sand, it was right there in front of everyone.
Look at the lap times . Stewart clearly picked up his pace as soon as he saw that RV was close enough to lap him. OK. It`s a lose lose situation on this board and I`ll be labeled as nut hugger so I`ll put it this way- Stewart did everything possible to not get lapped and maybe RV could lap him on the last laps but that would require picking up his pace and I don`t think that he was willing to risk it just to go by lapped rider.
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If he had lapped him Stewart would not have had another lap to pass riders and pick up points, so he should have as a tactical...
If he had lapped him Stewart would not have had another lap to pass riders and pick up points, so he should have as a tactical matter. I think it's a wash because I don't recall Stewart picking up any positions in the last lap.
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eb313 wrote:
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped...
If RV was slower than Stewart then explain how 2 reeled in 7? I don't care why he didn't or even if he could have lapped him but to say RV wasnt catching him is just shoving your head in the sand, it was right there in front of everyone.
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Look at the lap times . Stewart clearly picked up his pace as soon as he saw that RV was close enough to lap him. OK...
Look at the lap times . Stewart clearly picked up his pace as soon as he saw that RV was close enough to lap him. OK. It`s a lose lose situation on this board and I`ll be labeled as nut hugger so I`ll put it this way- Stewart did everything possible to not get lapped and maybe RV could lap him on the last laps but that would require picking up his pace and I don`t think that he was willing to risk it just to go by lapped rider.
Dude, its called reading give it a try. I said that RV reeled him in and said I didn't care about all the speculation about lapping Bubba. All I said was that from the time 7 got back on the track 2 was gaining on him, maybe not every lap but he was close behind at the checkers.

Someone already mentioned this but if I was in Bubba's shoes I would have let him lap me to avoul another lap, Stewart had already proved himself by that point.
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GuyB wrote:
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James...
I asked RV that, and he said he was more focused on what was going on behind me a little, "I wasn't even worried about James. I was just worried about Chad and making sure (I knew) what he was gaining on me. If it was a lot, then go a little harder. If not, just maintain it and run the laps down."
petie11o5 wrote:
RV2 has a clear head and doesn't seem like the type to "Rub It In". He's all class and knows what he has to do to...
RV2 has a clear head and doesn't seem like the type to "Rub It In". He's all class and knows what he has to do to win the championship. Like he said in a Transworld Interview...Aldon knows James' weaknesses and it appears it is working to RV2's advantage.
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X2, excellent post.
x3, very true!!
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Good God, it is amazing the meaningless crap some of you guys will argue about... some of you guys are adults, right??
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He was clearly catching him at the end and then looked to me like he backed it down the last lap. Was he doing it out...
He was clearly catching him at the end and then looked to me like he backed it down the last lap. Was he doing it out of respect or just didn't want to piss Stewart off?

RC would have gone for the jugular just to make a point and demoralize his opponents.


And yes, laps 10 through 20 RV's times were faster that JS's were.
Maybe he did not want to push too much like js did then js crash......? RV look like he could pass js so idk why...that's my best guess.
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What would it prove. RV got his 25 points. That's whats matters. RV knows that he is not as fast as Stewart. But if Reed keeps...
What would it prove. RV got his 25 points. That's whats matters. RV knows that he is not as fast as Stewart. But if Reed keeps riding like a dip shit when he is around Stewart and Stewart keeps throwing races away then RV will win the title.
If RV loses the title to Stewart by a point or two he could have really regreted it. As it is, Stewart didn't pass anyone on his last lap. But if RV had the opportunity & didn't take it, that could have turned out disasterous. If he passed, Stewart would have been done. By not passing, he gave Stewart the possibility to pass a couple more riders & get a couple more points..
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Did you guys notice that Stewart was kinda using the lapper flags as a way to get by the people in front of him easier?
Example: You get the lapper flag because the leader is right behind you. You turn around and see James Stewart. Assuming he's the leader is a safe assumption. So they make room for him to get by, but in reality the leader was a few seconds back. This was especially noticeable with Mike Alessi. Stewart probably would have gotten by those guys anyway, but that certainly made it easier. Another thing that helped Stewart was a lot of top guys crashed in front of him too. That's just how Daytona is. The hop over the wall (which was awesome) was what separated him and Villopoto. Other than that they were pretty even. Nice ride to get to 9th and keep his championship hopes alive.
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WhKnuckle 3/6/2011 8:24pm
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Heck, I thought Stewart would slow down and let RV lap him so he could avoid riding another lap. He wasn't going to catch anyone and nobody was going to catch him and Lord knows it'd been a long enough night already - why not head to the pits a lap early?

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