Will Deegan ever Win a 450 MX or SX title?

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nice imaginary telling of how people must think that aren't on the Deegan bandwagon for whatever reason. Weren't you 1 of the guys all but guaranteeing Deegan would immediately dominate and win titles this year? Like some of the people looking back at his 250 career and comparing to other people who won less in 250s but were champions in 450s? Biggest reality check is he didn't lead a single lap all year no matter the rest of the field. He turned some fast lap times, got some hole shots and podiums- but no titles. Might be best to turn down the expectations a notch or 2 and let the kid prove he's a championship instead of anointing him and making excuses for him.

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RDnutz wrote:
nice imaginary telling of how people must think that aren't on the Deegan bandwagon for whatever reason. Weren't you 1 of the guys all but guaranteeing...

nice imaginary telling of how people must think that aren't on the Deegan bandwagon for whatever reason. Weren't you 1 of the guys all but guaranteeing Deegan would immediately dominate and win titles this year? Like some of the people looking back at his 250 career and comparing to other people who won less in 250s but were champions in 450s? Biggest reality check is he didn't lead a single lap all year no matter the rest of the field. He turned some fast lap times, got some hole shots and podiums- but no titles. Might be best to turn down the expectations a notch or 2 and let the kid prove he's a championship instead of anointing him and making excuses for him.

He did lead for a few corners right?

Real question: Will Deegan ever win an smx round? Lol

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RDnutz wrote:
nice imaginary telling of how people must think that aren't on the Deegan bandwagon for whatever reason. Weren't you 1 of the guys all but guaranteeing...

nice imaginary telling of how people must think that aren't on the Deegan bandwagon for whatever reason. Weren't you 1 of the guys all but guaranteeing Deegan would immediately dominate and win titles this year? Like some of the people looking back at his 250 career and comparing to other people who won less in 250s but were champions in 450s? Biggest reality check is he didn't lead a single lap all year no matter the rest of the field. He turned some fast lap times, got some hole shots and podiums- but no titles. Might be best to turn down the expectations a notch or 2 and let the kid prove he's a championship instead of anointing him and making excuses for him.

If you are referring to me, no I wasn’t predicting him to dominate and win a title in his first season. 

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9/12/2026 11:01pm

Told you fellas. Get used to it. 

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9/13/2026 12:31am

The answer is still no, and dont bother arguing, SMX is not a real Championship, its just a participation trophy.

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The answer is still no, and dont bother arguing, SMX is not a real Championship, its just a participation trophy.

Confidently stupid. 

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9/13/2026 1:13am

Ah yes the oldest rule of SX.. You can definitely read into the results of a mudder haha

Now if he wins or goes close next week (If it's dry) sure   

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9/13/2026 3:33am

First season in the 450 division, he is in the top 5 of nearly every moto, keeping up with the leaders and leaving the field far behind. Yes, he will learn the smoothness and efficiency needed to hone his brutal intensity and already excellent consistency. He does that, and there's no reason tho think he won't, he will challenge Jett and leave the rest behind. 

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First season in the 450 division, he is in the top 5 of nearly every moto, keeping up with the leaders and leaving the field far...

First season in the 450 division, he is in the top 5 of nearly every moto, keeping up with the leaders and leaving the field far behind. Yes, he will learn the smoothness and efficiency needed to hone his brutal intensity and already excellent consistency. He does that, and there's no reason tho think he won't, he will challenge Jett and leave the rest behind. 

Deegan is not "keeping up with the leaders", unless you consider a 20+ second gap to be keeping up.

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Here’s something to consider: the Deegan brand has, like Pastrana, already proven that a major MX or SX title is not necessary to mine riches from...

Here’s something to consider: the Deegan brand has, like Pastrana, already proven that a major MX or SX title is not necessary to mine riches from their respective audiences and sponsors. The question is will Haiden stay interested in the sport long enough to win a title (or two), or will he go off and do something else?

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What would that something else be?  You're right about the 199 having another avenue but he was at the forefront of a new and booming sport...

What would that something else be?  You're right about the 199 having another avenue but he was at the forefront of a new and booming sport.  

I have no idea, I’ll leave that up to Brian and Monster. But following the lead of his old man, as well as the niche he...

I have no idea, I’ll leave that up to Brian and Monster. But following the lead of his old man, as well as the niche he has already carved out in social media, he could retire and just make videos and sling merch. Race trophy trucks? Get married and raise another Danger Deegan?

so you think he's just in it for the exposure and $, but not really dedicated to becoming the best in the sport with multiple championships? There's a small legion of 38 Kool-Aid drinkers here that swear he's going to dominate 450 for years but not talking about the other personal he has going on. Which is it? I'm confused 🙄

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9/13/2026 7:34am

You guys doing ok?

Probably better than you have been for the last 4 months 

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9/13/2026 7:43am

He'll also be remembered for his jackassery off the track.

You can relate, then.

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9/13/2026 7:46am

Is it time to start talking cracking the 72 win mark yet? Wink  

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9/13/2026 7:53am

Is it time to start talking cracking the 72 win mark yet? Wink  

71 to.go

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9/13/2026 7:54am

Well, well, well. Apparently Deegs can win on a 450. He went 1-1. Nothing was gifted...he straight up beat them by what...over 30 seconds over the two motos??? The kid is good. There is no denying this. Now, will he ever win again...probably. 

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9/13/2026 8:16am

Doesn’t matter the arguments. He’s gonna improve in confidence and strength.

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9/13/2026 8:35am
First season in the 450 division, he is in the top 5 of nearly every moto, keeping up with the leaders and leaving the field far...

First season in the 450 division, he is in the top 5 of nearly every moto, keeping up with the leaders and leaving the field far behind. Yes, he will learn the smoothness and efficiency needed to hone his brutal intensity and already excellent consistency. He does that, and there's no reason tho think he won't, he will challenge Jett and leave the rest behind. 

Deegan is not "keeping up with the leaders", unless you consider a 20+ second gap to be keeping up.

As I saw it, he was consistently in a group with the bros and Jorje. Sometimes closer than others, sometimes ahead of Jorje. Consistently much closer to the leaders than the field was to him. That's how I saw it.

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Flatliner wrote:
What would that something else be?  You're right about the 199 having another avenue but he was at the forefront of a new and booming sport...

What would that something else be?  You're right about the 199 having another avenue but he was at the forefront of a new and booming sport.  

I have no idea, I’ll leave that up to Brian and Monster. But following the lead of his old man, as well as the niche he...

I have no idea, I’ll leave that up to Brian and Monster. But following the lead of his old man, as well as the niche he has already carved out in social media, he could retire and just make videos and sling merch. Race trophy trucks? Get married and raise another Danger Deegan?

RDnutz wrote:
so you think he's just in it for the exposure and $, but not really dedicated to becoming the best in the sport with multiple championships...

so you think he's just in it for the exposure and $, but not really dedicated to becoming the best in the sport with multiple championships? There's a small legion of 38 Kool-Aid drinkers here that swear he's going to dominate 450 for years but not talking about the other personal he has going on. Which is it? I'm confused 🙄

Yes, you do appear to be confused. Read my first post again for clarity. The family business that provided the financial strength for his ascent has never been focused on the traditional side of the motocross business, so it’s not unreasonable to consider (as I said) the possibility that young Deegan is wired like his dad.

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9/13/2026 8:56am

Is it time to start talking cracking the 72 win mark yet? Wink  

71 to.go

The count is still zero. SMX is its own thing, just like MX and SX. 

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Yes, you do appear to be confused. Read my first post again for clarity. The family business that provided the financial strength for his ascent has...

Yes, you do appear to be confused. Read my first post again for clarity. The family business that provided the financial strength for his ascent has never been focused on the traditional side of the motocross business, so it’s not unreasonable to consider (as I said) the possibility that young Deegan is wired like his dad.

Nobody ascends to the top of any motor sport without being all in towards that goal. I don't remember any top riders going all the way back to the 1960s saying they were in it to get rich. They wanted to be Champions- period. Looking in from the outside it does seem the family is in it for the Benjamins, but I think you are making a leap in judgement that is Haiden's primary goal too. IMO making the $ is incidental to becoming a champion in his mind. The opportunity to make more $ will always be there- the window to becoming a champion will not. 

 

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9/13/2026 9:42am

Nope. And when the Lawrence bros retire Davies will be the king of the 450 class. 

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9/13/2026 10:15am

Soooo...Deegs is currently undefeated in 450 SMX. Nice. 

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9/13/2026 10:17am

Checking in on you guys, anyone here commit suicide yet?

Please tell you'll consider Deegz a 450 champ if he wins SMX. Please, tell me that. 

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9/13/2026 10:21am

It may be that Deegs is wisely advised not to shoot for the moon this first season, instead to be consistent, finish consistently high and get his sea legs on the big bike amongst the big boys. Anyone familiar with the sport can see that while he's got beast, he doesn't have the polish and fluid, efficient skills the bros have. I did not expect a rookie to beat the bros, they are phenomenally talented champion racers. He's got a few steps to climb before he accomplishes that. But he did well, better than I expected. I expect him to hire a coach as good as O'Mara and polish his skills to combine beast with efficient riding and fluid grace. He does that, it's a race with Jett. And Hunta? I fully expect Deegs to beat him one day fairly soon.

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The Moth
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9/13/2026 10:23am

Is it time to start talking cracking the 72 win mark yet? Wink  

It wasn’t Deegan who said he was going after that, it was Jett. And I believe that Jett has about 64 more wins to go (SMX wins don’t count). 

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It may be that Deegs is wisely advised not to shoot for the moon this first season, instead to be consistent, finish consistently high and get...

It may be that Deegs is wisely advised not to shoot for the moon this first season, instead to be consistent, finish consistently high and get his sea legs on the big bike amongst the big boys. Anyone familiar with the sport can see that while he's got beast, he doesn't have the polish and fluid, efficient skills the bros have. I did not expect a rookie to beat the bros, they are phenomenally talented champion racers. He's got a few steps to climb before he accomplishes that. But he did well, better than I expected. I expect him to hire a coach as good as O'Mara and polish his skills to combine beast with efficient riding and fluid grace. He does that, it's a race with Jett. And Hunta? I fully expect Deegs to beat him one day fairly soon.

Beat Hunta fairly soon? What's fairly soon? Next year, youre dreaming.  

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9/13/2026 10:29am
It may be that Deegs is wisely advised not to shoot for the moon this first season, instead to be consistent, finish consistently high and get...

It may be that Deegs is wisely advised not to shoot for the moon this first season, instead to be consistent, finish consistently high and get his sea legs on the big bike amongst the big boys. Anyone familiar with the sport can see that while he's got beast, he doesn't have the polish and fluid, efficient skills the bros have. I did not expect a rookie to beat the bros, they are phenomenally talented champion racers. He's got a few steps to climb before he accomplishes that. But he did well, better than I expected. I expect him to hire a coach as good as O'Mara and polish his skills to combine beast with efficient riding and fluid grace. He does that, it's a race with Jett. And Hunta? I fully expect Deegs to beat him one day fairly soon.

Beat Hunta fairly soon? What's fairly soon? Next year, youre dreaming.  

Sooner than Jett. Hunta's an easier target, in both speed and heart.

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9/13/2026 10:40am

You guys doing ok?

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Probably better than you have been for the last 4 months 

I've actually been quite okay since May, except for one situation at the end of May before round 1 that I won't mention because it's very personal. I am ok from that, thankfully. I had a feeling he'd have a chance to win early on, but knew it wasn't gonna be easy outdoors. Did I like him being 30+ seconds down every week, heck no, but I didn't let it affect me and knew that he's actually doing quite good consistently being 3-5 every week and being at all the races uninjured. He beat everyone; Jett beat his rookie year consistently, except Jett and Hunter. Jett never had to go up against himself; Hunter and everyone else have to. So yes; I'm ok donjulio.

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