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Will be used to travel to tracks/trail systems around the country/off grid camping and general site seeing with the wife. Diesel v. gas, new or used, manufacturers to avoid v. those that last. I will be hauling a Harley and one 450 in the garage. I plan to be in it for months at a time. I want to be fully self contained so a generator/solar is a must. Constructive comments appreciated.
What’s your budget ? I have a 2021 Thor Outlaw 29j
I bought it new and love it!
Your plan is a great one btw.
Budget is between 75-120K. I'm fine with used. I don't mind minor repairs or improvements but I don't want to rebuild it.
I’m pretty sure that mvd61 has an RV dealership.
Not sure how far he’d be from you, but if I were in the market I’d definitely give him a shot at my business.
do yourself a favor and skip the toy hauler, they arent worth what you give up in living space. Find yourself a nice 28-31 foot class C and grab a 16x8.5 enclosed. Youll be loving life
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If it’s just the two of you and a couple bikes Id look at a regular class c or super c motorhome and some hitch options so you don’t need to tow. The bedroom alone would be worth skipping the toyhauler part. The super C option gives you larger holding tanks for water and waste.
We’ve got more toys than your planing on taking so we need the trailer but when it’s just bikes I can carry 3 without the use of a trailer. When the RZR goes we don’t have a choice.
I don't think that there is a hitch-mounted carrier available that would handle a 450 and a Harley.
Put the Harley on the back and the other upfront.
I have owned four different motorhomes in my life, each one a more progressively pile of shit, especially post covid. Many of my friend own RVs and have gone through several as well. I would never own a toy hauler, too many horror stories amongst my friends and aquaintances for a hundred grand plus gamble. There is absolutely no dealer or manufacturer support. Our current rig is a Grech Strada Ion AWD, and we pull a 7x14 enclosed. The rig, the dealer, the manufacturer are absolutely fantastic compared to the rest of the RVs we or our friends own. Good luck.
BUY USED WITH A WARRANTY.
We bought our iconic when it was 3 years old & the thing has been solid. 28 ft, no slide outs & it has nothing but room for us as a family of 5 & two dogs.
We had to rebuild the generator once & change the smoke detectors....that's it.
Meanwhile my Dad has purchased 3 different rigs (all brand new) in that same amount of time & every single one of them has been in the shop more than they havent.
Let someone else find & deal with the issues from the factory & save yourself 30-50%.
At the end of the day, your rig is going to get dirty & you're going to scuff it up, so don't let the shine at the dealership cause you to spend way more than you have to.
Thanks for the ideas. I already have a fully set up 7x14 trailer but was looking to reduce my profile and cut down on axles/tires and make it easier to back into campgrounds with one vehicle. The issue of build quality keeps coming up everywhere I look. Apparently, nothing is really well made in my price range and some won't even last 2 years without massive issues and headaches as far as toyhaulers go. If I keep the trailer that greatly expands my options into Class C. From what I'm hearing from y'all, the trade off in comfort and livability is worth towing the trailer.
This is exactly what I was hoping to get out of this. Does anyone have a recommendation on the best Class C motorhomes? I am planning on doing this for 3-5 years or until the wife says she wants to live in a home without wheels. As such, I am looking for a quality build with support around the country that I don't have to wait 6 months to get maintenance and repairs done. I am willing to pay more to get one that lasts. The horror stories I've read are scary.
We went through the gamut of class C rigs, Leprechauns, Phoenix Cruisers, etc. our friends have as well. I believe class Cs are not designed necessarily for travel, but a once a month get away with the family, economically and a short distance away, for a weekend or so, they all seem built to a price point. We have spent many a hour in the wilderness trying to fix one for one thing or another, and have toured alot of the factories in Elkhart. If you are set on a class C, try to get a late model used one with some kind of warranty (not that a warranty means anything in RVs). Just know you are going to be working on it and alot of times this happens in the middle of nowhere. Avoid slides if you can, automatic levelers, anything that can lead to headaches.
I have a Class C Motorhome with a garage, 2006 and love it. It's basically a large moto van. However, it's just my 7 year old and me inside. If I had a bigger family it might get tight if youre planning to stay more than a few nights. But I like that I do not have to tow a trailer. I've added work benches and storage and organized the back which makes it that much more enjoyable; a mini race shop in the back. However, I think my next upgrade will be a Super C with a 20ish foot trailer when he gets older and if we continue to chase amateur nationals. Just having a dedicated bedroom vs sleeping over the cab and a little more room to relax after a long, hot day at the track is appealing. But right now at this age and time I love our set up.
I can’t speak on motorhomes, but have almost 2 years in our Grand Design toy hauler.


When it comes to purchasing (on toy haulers at least) there is massive markup to get to MSRP. Sticker on mine was almost $100k, ended up paying $58k plus tax/reg. It was a 2024 at the end of 2024.
They are all made like shit unless it’s a full aluminum construction. Mine is considered “high end” but it’s just a polished turd.
I do have 12,000 miles on it, almost 500 hours on the generator and knock on wood I’ve had no issues.
Mine is 35 feet long which is fine for moto tracks, but does limit what campgrounds we can stay at (especially by the beach).
Enjoy, it creates good memories and experiences.
My wife and I have really begun thinking about this ourselves. For all the places we go, it's going to be better to just pull a flatbed trailer. In fact, we may forego the RV altogether and just stay in hotels. (I'd go with an enclosed trailer in that case.)
I don't know where you plan on camping, so maybe this plan won't work for you. But for us, skipping the costs of purchase, storage and maintenance would pay for some pretty nice hotels!
36’ overall length from bumper to lift gate. Chevy Kodiak c5500 chassis, 300HP 6.6L V8 Duramax diesel engine (pre DEF!), harder to find 1600lb lift gate for easy toy loading into the large 8x10’ garage. 5500 Onan diesel generator (runs off main fuel tank), 2 rooftop AC units that pump cold air, rear back up camera, fridge, freezer, microwave, stove, full bathroom with shower and toilet, sleeps 4-5 people, internal ladder for roof access, aluminum rear roll up door, entertainment system with fold out tv, 10,000 lb towing capacity class 5 hitch. Runs and drives great. No leaks anywhere.
It has been in inside storage each winter since I’ve owned it, but out in the weather during the summers. It has a few small typical RV issues but otherwise it is in very good shape! For a 2005, I would give it a strong 7.5 rating or even better. Located northwest of Chicago and an hour from O'hare. $47,000
Anything 2008 and older is gonna be better quality. Look at the Gulfstream line of super that era very well built most of them have no wood in the framing. It’s all 1 in.² aluminum tubing. also makes a nice motorhome in those years. You’re looking at newer plan on replacing all the upholstery in the interior within the first three years.
every time I go to get propane at the local RV repair shop they always never have to bring my Gulfstream in that bulletproof from that 2003 to 2008 timeframe so far they’ve been right only things I’ve replaced unit on the top because we desert a lot in the summer and a couple water pumps because I have a wife and two kids and they like to shower every night. Again super C is be the way to go just based on holding tank and you get a bigger floor plan and slightly taller roof and ground clearance.
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Something like this triple slide is a bonus.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4467494883508835/?mibextid=ww…
A buddy of mine had that exact year and model, we drove it to every AX round for 2 seasons without a single issue. We were dumb 18 year olds, didn’t do proper maintenance and the thing didn’t let us down once.
Here is a fantastic deal on a 2014 Newmar Canyon Star 3921 Class A Toy hauler. I have a 2012 3920, but this one has the updated floor plan with the full wall slide. Newmar quality is second to none when it comes to production motorhomes. You would not be disappointed.
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/1783116166158822?ref=share_at…
That does seem like a great rig. Newmars of that generation are well built.
Just my opinion but if I was ever to do a motor home I would tow a van rather than get a toy hauler. Bikes in the van and you would have a way to get around.
I have a rare 2021 Thor Outlaw 29S (side cargo door) Class C for sale that the only made in 2020 & 2021. These are nice IMO because they have a bedroom inside the living quarters where the other toyhaulers usually you need to use the garage area as a bedroom. The other nice thing is when you tow a car or trailer you don't need to unhook to get into the garage area. Asking $80k and located near Erie, Pa...
2021 Thor Outlaw 29S Toyhauler Very good condition with many upgrades
-46k miles
-7.3 V8 engine
-Rare side entry garage/toyhauler
-Always stored indoors
-Extra 32 gallon water tank added
-Custom graphics
-Tinted windows
-Recent Pa State inspection and front end alignment
-Rear suspension air bag system installed
-Front suspension enhancement/stabilizer system installed
-Front hitch/receiver installed
*Selling because we bought a Class A diesel pusher Toyhauler*
I agree with this 100%. So much overpriced junk out there.
I don’t have much to add regarding which / what motorhomes are better quality than others. But just want to say Hell Yeah to your plan !
We started off in a class C motorhome and trailer, then went to a toy hauler. Both of those were cool, but not so cool when going through small little towns with little streets and parking lots. Once the kids were out on their own, we wound up getting a camper with a slide to sit on the truck that was already paid for, and then added a small enclosed trailer for the dual sports and bicycles, etc.. it’s cool for 2- 3 weeks with a hotel night in between here and there. But no way we could do “years”. The advantages are we can cruise around and explore small towns on our dual sports, or if the weather sucks we can leave the trailer in the campground and drive around in the truck and camper and be able to park in most spots. But the trade-off is space, it’s pretty tight quarters, especially if you might be getting on each other‘s nerves a bit 😀. We’re planning a “Spur of the moment no concrete plans trip around the country” next summer. I will say diesels are pretty awesome for the torque and power, but since I bought my truck in 2005 when diesel was the cheapest fuel, to now that it is the most expensive fuel, if I was to buy a new truck I’m not sure I’d go diesel again just because of the fuck you price of diesel. Good luck with whatever you get and have a great adventure. Here’s our current set up. It’s the easiest to drive / park rig I’ve owned, but it does come at the expense of space and luxury. Keep us posted. Sounds like a great plan!
We’re at the extreme end of easy to drive at the expense of space and comfort. If I was gonna start from scratch and live full time in it like you’re talking about? I think I’d want a class C or A funmover with the Harley and your 450 inside the garage, and then tow a jeep to go bomb around off road and explore little towns along the way, if money was no object 😂😂 Big rigs are cool and comfortable, but the little towns have tiny streets and a big long motorhome turns into a pain in the ass. You’re gonna want something small to go exploring in. Just spitballing here good luck 😎

^ that and tow a Jeep gets my vote
Fan of side load units like 955's. I can't afford a fun mover or i would buy his. My toy hauler was a front side load and i loved it. Ive seen 955's rig and he keeps his stuff in great shape (bike, van, campers, his stuffs always crispy).
Im too young (or dumb, at 41), to have put much thought in to the type of use youre talking about. However, i wouldnt want to pull a trailer if i didn't have to. Im not a huge fan of A class units because you typically lose a bed above drivers area. I know some have a drop down bed which wouldn't be bad. Id probably want something exactly like 955s.
Looks like you're on the right path, but I wouldn't touch anything built after 2018. Build quality seems to have fell off a cliff after COVID.
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