The Boys on Moto60 - Their Take on MXdN

CPR wrote:

It’s not that hard to work out Jimmy,  which one does Deegan get shit on for more?:Coming out early and honestly saying you’re not making yourself...

It’s not that hard to work out Jimmy,  which one does Deegan get shit on for more?:

1. Coming out early and honestly saying you’re not making yourself available for MXdN.
2. Dodging MXdN for four years and making excuses, while being a self proclaimed patriot.

whateversclever69 wrote:

I think he’d legitimately be fighting for 5th or 6th.  

aeffertz wrote:

He’s been the 3rd/4th best guy here all summer. I think you’re being a little generous.

DonM wrote:

The biggest takeaway I got from that which nobody is talking about is what Zach said...He got $2500 for his expenses from the AMA and he...

The biggest takeaway I got from that which nobody is talking about is what Zach said...He got $2500 for his expenses from the AMA and he spent $25k of his own money.....that is a huge red flag full on failure of the AMA and those in charge of Team USA....there is no way a rider should have to spend $25K. The AMA, the industry and the manufacturers need to either make changes to raising money so no rider has to come out of pocket to go...This team is a complete failure and I would rather we just stop going than go through this every fucking year since 2014. I would like to know how much other riders from other countries are paying out of pocket for this race...my guess would be close to zero...The AMA only gave Zacho $2500...Seriously WTF?

avidchimp wrote:

While $2500 is low for one riders expenses, you're casually omitting that the bulk of that 25k went to bringing his family over for a working...

While $2500 is low for one riders expenses, you're casually omitting that the bulk of that 25k went to bringing his family over for a working vacation. No entity should be covering a riders expenses other than getting them to the event, lodging for the event, and equipment costs. Wanna take your whole family and some friends, that's on you.

DonM wrote:

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500...

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500 is a pittance and insulting to a professional athlete. it's a complete failure of the AMA et al... how many in the AMA entourage need to go to this race? Time to cut the fat...but if you're ok with the current system that has been failing for years to put together the best team then I guess we can expect this same shit every year....the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.....somethings gotta change is all I'm saying because the way we are doing it isn't working...I'd rather we not go than to go through the exact same shit every year...

yak651 wrote:

If Deegs gets on the podium today will he wave the flag for us fans??

avidchimp wrote:

While $2500 is low for one riders expenses, you're casually omitting that the bulk of that 25k went to bringing his family over for a working...

While $2500 is low for one riders expenses, you're casually omitting that the bulk of that 25k went to bringing his family over for a working vacation. No entity should be covering a riders expenses other than getting them to the event, lodging for the event, and equipment costs. Wanna take your whole family and some friends, that's on you.

DonM wrote:

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500...

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500 is a pittance and insulting to a professional athlete. it's a complete failure of the AMA et al... how many in the AMA entourage need to go to this race? Time to cut the fat...but if you're ok with the current system that has been failing for years to put together the best team then I guess we can expect this same shit every year....the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.....somethings gotta change is all I'm saying because the way we are doing it isn't working...I'd rather we not go than to go through the exact same shit every year...

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

Bow977 wrote:

So I guess Prado is trash then? I remember Deegs beating him most of the outdoors this year as a rookie.

DonM wrote:

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500...

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500 is a pittance and insulting to a professional athlete. it's a complete failure of the AMA et al... how many in the AMA entourage need to go to this race? Time to cut the fat...but if you're ok with the current system that has been failing for years to put together the best team then I guess we can expect this same shit every year....the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.....somethings gotta change is all I'm saying because the way we are doing it isn't working...I'd rather we not go than to go through the exact same shit every year...

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

DonM wrote:

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you...

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you will see I was saying the same thing last year and the year before....I've been super critical of Kawi for their stance on MXDN for years and now am of Yam...It is a money problem if two factory teams refuse to send their riders because of costs that they have to absorb...Yours obsession does't allow you to see the forrest through the trees as your too dumb to realize that we both want the same thing...and that's to send the best US riders every year without this bullshit...

Bow977 wrote:

So I guess Prado is trash then? I remember Deegs beating him most of the outdoors this year as a rookie.

VHM wrote:

If you mean 5 of 10 is most of the outdoors...😅

JayDeerTay wrote:

Haiden has beaten Prado in 11 moto's to Prado's 9. 

 

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

DonM wrote:

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you...

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you will see I was saying the same thing last year and the year before....I've been super critical of Kawi for their stance on MXDN for years and now am of Yam...It is a money problem if two factory teams refuse to send their riders because of costs that they have to absorb...Yours obsession does't allow you to see the forrest through the trees as your too dumb to realize that we both want the same thing...and that's to send the best US riders every year without this bullshit...

soggy wrote:

Star knew Haiden would likely be selected for the past 6 months. Whether going or not, This could have been resolved months ago. 

DonM wrote:

My logic is very simple....no rider should have to come out of pocket to race the MXDN period....the rest of your post is nothing but your...

My logic is very simple....no rider should have to come out of pocket to race the MXDN period....the rest of your post is nothing but your own emotional issues....by the way I'm still waiting on your links to the US media bullshit you posted in another thread....

tcalzone wrote:

I agree 100%.  What is the AMA even doing with the money they collect?  Protecingt our sport and riders on Capital Hill?  Nah, this sanctioning body...

I agree 100%.  What is the AMA even doing with the money they collect?  Protecingt our sport and riders on Capital Hill?  Nah, this sanctioning body needs to put the funds together for the team/riders to compete in MXDN and ride for our country.  Also, Webb and Hymas over Tomac????  Bro, that is just wrong in so many ways.  ET3 is racing his way back into shape/speed and deserved that spot over those two.  Such disrespect.

The Wolf Man wrote:

There is a strong rumour going around - discussed by JT - that Tomac is considering retiring from all racing after SMX. So there's that...

yak651 wrote:

If Deegs gets on the podium today will he wave the flag for us fans??

Tumic wrote:

Yes he will, and I hope that the crowd will let him know what they think about false patriotism 

yak651 wrote:

If Deegs gets on the podium today will he wave the flag for us fans??

Tumic wrote:

Yes he will, and I hope that the crowd will let him know what they think about false patriotism 

super_fan_38 wrote:

Hopefully all the capable men and women who were asked to enlist, but declined to serve and represent their country, never wave a flag since by...

Hopefully all the capable men and women who were asked to enlist, but declined to serve and represent their country, never wave a flag since by your logic, that would be false patriotism.  

JayDeerTay wrote:

Haiden has beaten Prado in 11 moto's to Prado's 9. 

 

VHM wrote:

I was looking at the overalls. It would still have been equal in motos if Deegan had a DNF because of a blown engine.

Tumic wrote:

Yes he will, and I hope that the crowd will let him know what they think about false patriotism 

Tumic wrote:

Yes he will, and I hope that the crowd will let him know what they think about false patriotism 

super_fan_38 wrote:

Hopefully all the capable men and women who were asked to enlist, but declined to serve and represent their country, never wave a flag since by...

Hopefully all the capable men and women who were asked to enlist, but declined to serve and represent their country, never wave a flag since by your logic, that would be false patriotism.  

TropicPilot wrote:

Nobody is asked to enlist. If you're an American male, you have to register for the draft when you turn 18. That's it. Some of us...

Nobody is asked to enlist. If you're an American male, you have to register for the draft when you turn 18. That's it. Some of us volunteered to serve, proudly.

During the Vietnam War, many were drafted, many avoided the draft through various methods. Back in WWII, nearly every able-bodied man signed up to serve. Nobody is simply asked to serve. 

DonM wrote:

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500...

Do you know that for a fact? He didn't say it was for his family....regardless no rider should have to come out of pocket and  $2500 is a pittance and insulting to a professional athlete. it's a complete failure of the AMA et al... how many in the AMA entourage need to go to this race? Time to cut the fat...but if you're ok with the current system that has been failing for years to put together the best team then I guess we can expect this same shit every year....the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.....somethings gotta change is all I'm saying because the way we are doing it isn't working...I'd rather we not go than to go through the exact same shit every year...

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

DonM wrote:

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you...

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you will see I was saying the same thing last year and the year before....I've been super critical of Kawi for their stance on MXDN for years and now am of Yam...It is a money problem if two factory teams refuse to send their riders because of costs that they have to absorb...Yours obsession does't allow you to see the forrest through the trees as your too dumb to realize that we both want the same thing...and that's to send the best US riders every year without this bullshit...

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

DonM wrote:

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you...

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you will see I was saying the same thing last year and the year before....I've been super critical of Kawi for their stance on MXDN for years and now am of Yam...It is a money problem if two factory teams refuse to send their riders because of costs that they have to absorb...Yours obsession does't allow you to see the forrest through the trees as your too dumb to realize that we both want the same thing...and that's to send the best US riders every year without this bullshit...

Paul333 wrote:

BS attempt to backtrack and of course insult while safe behind a keyboardThe whole topic is being discussed because Deegandashian wants an excuse. Pretending you care...

BS attempt to backtrack and of course insult while safe behind a keyboard

The whole topic is being discussed because Deegandashian wants an excuse. Pretending you care about the topic otherwise is…well just BS. 

Go away. There is no way to social media switcharoo bs and spin this event remotely positively for the Deegans. 

Kyle978 wrote:

Deegs would be lucky to not get lapped by the Euro boys, it's probably best for his brand that he stays home. 

Bow977 wrote:

So I guess Prado is trash then? I remember Deegs beating him most of the outdoors this year as a rookie.

VHM wrote:

If you mean 5 of 10 is most of the outdoors...😅

JayDeerTay wrote:

Haiden has beaten Prado in 11 moto's to Prado's 9. 

 

TropicPilot wrote:

Matthes and Zacho were obviously frustrated with the Deegans bullshit about avoiding the MXdN, but Perebijnos didn't hold back at all!Among other things, he said, "Deegan...

Matthes and Zacho were obviously frustrated with the Deegans bullshit about avoiding the MXdN, but Perebijnos didn't hold back at all!

Among other things, he said, "Deegan asking for money is bullshit. It's a bullshit little bitch move." He also said, " they're (Star) covering up for their rider that doesn't want to go," and, "he'll get fucking smoked!" 

Steve pointed out that Doucheboy is going to the UK a week later for WSX. He also said that Star never had a problem going to the MXdN without asking for money until the last few years.

Wonder what changed at Star?  

MX Guy wrote:

Shoutout to Paul P for keeping it real. No hiding behind industry relationships and political fluff. Dude is a gem, we need more like him. 

VHM wrote:

If you mean 5 of 10 is most of the outdoors...😅

JayDeerTay wrote:

Haiden has beaten Prado in 11 moto's to Prado's 9. 

 

alexM wrote:

Ooof. Now Prado has 2 moto wins and an overall win multiple laps led. Deegan? Ehh not so great

chasetwo79 wrote:

The stranglehold the Deegan family has on you is pretty wild to see as you post. I can't imagine anyone person making me rage like your...

The stranglehold the Deegan family has on you is pretty wild to see as you post. I can't imagine anyone person making me rage like your posts. 

TropicPilot wrote:

Matthes and Zacho were obviously frustrated with the Deegans bullshit about avoiding the MXdN, but Perebijnos didn't hold back at all!Among other things, he said, "Deegan...

Matthes and Zacho were obviously frustrated with the Deegans bullshit about avoiding the MXdN, but Perebijnos didn't hold back at all!

Among other things, he said, "Deegan asking for money is bullshit. It's a bullshit little bitch move." He also said, " they're (Star) covering up for their rider that doesn't want to go," and, "he'll get fucking smoked!" 

Steve pointed out that Doucheboy is going to the UK a week later for WSX. He also said that Star never had a problem going to the MXdN without asking for money until the last few years.

Wonder what changed at Star?  

bd wrote:

Might be the greatest podcast since Laser Gate. Did any other pod cats have people lean in like this? 

chasetwo79 wrote:

Where is the hate on Marchbanks? He said he was in then backed out. He would've been a better pick for 450 than Chance. If I'm a...

Where is the hate on Marchbanks? He said he was in then backed out. He would've been a better pick for 450 than Chance. 

If I'm a top guy, I'd never entertain this circus unless it's in the US or in front puts up a purse of actual value. 

American riders have zero ties to in front and their weird business practices. Why do you think all their top riders (besides Herlings) are fleeing to America? 

This same issue we are talking about has been an issue for 15 years and it's only getting so much noise because it's Deegs. 
 

Paul333 wrote:

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….Multimillionaires faulting...

Funny the financials of this race only started to interest you when Deegandashian wanted to use it as an excuse for them refusing to go….

Multimillionaires faulting at every opportunity 8 million dollar homes, 5-10 vehicles including a super car or two, 500,000 watches, private jet flights to every race, etc. 

If the Deegandashian’s wanted to attend they could fund it entirely off a YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Tok videos about the race….easily. Especially with their benefactors at Monster Energy sponsoring and promoting every video. 

Simply put your false interest in the financials of this race isn’t fooling anyone. 

 

DonM wrote:

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you...

You're a fucking moron...You're the one that keeps bringing Deegan into it not me....and for your FYI you can go back in my posting history you will see I was saying the same thing last year and the year before....I've been super critical of Kawi for their stance on MXDN for years and now am of Yam...It is a money problem if two factory teams refuse to send their riders because of costs that they have to absorb...Yours obsession does't allow you to see the forrest through the trees as your too dumb to realize that we both want the same thing...and that's to send the best US riders every year without this bullshit...

Paul333 wrote:

BS attempt to backtrack and of course insult while safe behind a keyboardThe whole topic is being discussed because Deegandashian wants an excuse. Pretending you care...

BS attempt to backtrack and of course insult while safe behind a keyboard

The whole topic is being discussed because Deegandashian wants an excuse. Pretending you care about the topic otherwise is…well just BS. 

Go away. There is no way to social media switcharoo bs and spin this event remotely positively for the Deegans.