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8/22/2026 2:59pm
Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

The stats don't

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TeamGreen wrote:

Deeg’s giving’ props to BamBam. Go figure! 

That’s cool! 🤙

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8/22/2026 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:00pm
Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

And the other only race outside the podium he got penalized a full lap which led to him scoring zero points in a moto. It is kinda wild. Hunters stats are also insane though, he was never outside the top 5th in 450 MX except for last weekend.

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DonJulio wrote:

0-20 0 laps led I LOVE IT

You seem to have developed a crush on Dangerboy.  He’s all you think about! 💁‍♂️

It’s WoPhat and Jettsonator

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8/22/2026 3:03pm

Genuinely questioning if Jett would rather see his brother win than himself…really seems like he’s not going for it

X2

Think about it, Jett had 4 more motos going into this to help Hunter make up 10 points.

only losers think like that....winner take all next week!

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Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

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I think it’s the new team. Not that they’re bad, but it has to be like going to a new job. All new people, new processes...

I think it’s the new team. Not that they’re bad, but it has to be like going to a new job. All new people, new processes, it’s a lot of change to make mid-season.

I can see it being that and the mindset too. Going from an underdog team, you have the desire to prove you can be better than the factory teams, and if you fail, oh well, you showed some good speed for a little bit and got eyes on yourself and the program. Switch to the factory bike, now there's expectations. A whole ass crew riding on your result, and you BETTER do better than your old bike, no excuses now!

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8/22/2026 3:07pm

But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

DonJulio wrote:

not the first time he’s beat him on overall. We all saw Jett pass him and absolutely gap him is what matters

I mean im a Lawrence brothers guy all day, just checking my math. 

 

correct....deegs beat Jett for overall.....still gets third

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One forum member will be on the sidelines through next week. We'll see after that.

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8/22/2026 3:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:08pm

Who do you guys think will win a 450 race first (MX, SMX or SX, doesn't matter), Prado or Deegan? I feel like Prado will in SX, Deegans best chance is probably at SMX

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Jett is unreal.

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ohh_454 wrote:
I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top...

I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top 5 or anything. Fineis has had better results than Toendel did on the Partzilla bike. 

davis224 wrote:
But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a...

But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a good start and just worked his way back, way back. Didn't he have a few top 10s on ISRT? (Not partzilla, by the way)

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Off the top of my head without looking at results I’d say he’s had 2 top tens on each of the Kawis he’s rode. I think...

Off the top of my head without looking at results I’d say he’s had 2 top tens on each of the Kawis he’s rode. I think he was around 12th more on the privateer bike than 17th like he’s been on the factory bike tho. 

My memory failed me. He only has 1 top 10 moto, a 9th at Southwick on the factory bike. I guess I was thinking of both motos at Red Bud, he was killing it but DNFd both motos. Then I think High Point he was well inside the top 10 battling when he crashed hard. It does feel like he was more relevant speed wise on the ISRT bike to me still.

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8/22/2026 3:12pm
Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

It's also his worst season in terms of riding and he's in the title fight. 

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8/22/2026 3:13pm

Track conditions for the last moto were perfect compared to practice this morning. 

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ky_savage wrote:

Track conditions for the last moto were perfect compared to practice this morning. 

Dude it was dumping the 2nd qualifying session.  I mean DUMPING. So nuts how the day turned out. I was soaking wet and then it got so hot, all my clothes dried out lol

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Two brothers fighting…no.

Prediction: Hunter wins by several points; Jett has a mediocre (p2 or 3 oa)

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DonJulio wrote:

0-20 0 laps led I LOVE IT

You seem to have developed a crush on Dangerboy.  He’s all you think about! 💁‍♂️

It’s WoPhat and Jettsonator

Blocked all 3 of them first time I've had to do that since joining up in 2008.

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8/22/2026 3:21pm

The 4 inside gates are basically useless unless you get a fantastic jump on everyone, or take the high road. 😂

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8/22/2026 3:25pm

A 1-2 will win championship for hunter next week, Jett needs a 1-1 day

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8/22/2026 3:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:36pm

1 point championship to end it, damm i wish I was going to Crawfordsville this year. 

For what…? Figuring out if its a Lawrence or a Lawrence that wins the championship… No hate but not really exciting…

Racing would be ”better” without them for sure, but, what are the rest not doing!!??

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8/22/2026 3:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:40pm

When is Budds gonna get rid of that horrible start location. It’s the most unfair start of the series.

They should have gone back to the old one right after that 2007 MXdN. The FIM made Beasley put it there for the race. Way before that...

They should have gone back to the old one right after that 2007 MXdN. The FIM made Beasley put it there for the race. 

Way before that, the start was short and straight uphill on the other side of the track, into a tight, tight 180. That one would never work. Hell, it didn't work back then. 

we talked to erza about it at the last masters race , he said expect some changes around 2028 ish , going back up hill by the barn 

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8/22/2026 4:02pm

I don't think I ever have seen a track recover this good after being what it was during 450 practise. Unbelievable.

Great work of track crew saving us from getting to see rut cross.

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Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... 

Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him.. had fastest lap... he's got the speed to win, but has he reached his ceiling? Is he gonna just be a supercross guy??? 

Cringe lord - he just isn't there and he may never get there, no matter what he posts on the gram... a lot of people,  in fact most, hit their speed ceiling after entering the 450s... staying up is a great thing, but if he ever wants to win, he's gotta push even more and have a few spills here and there.. would you rather be a 3rd place guy every year or win while missing some racing here and there?? 

Jett - if Jett pulls this off at 80 percent it will further cement him as an all time great.. 

Et3 - headtrip tomac isn't anything new.... but now instead of going 2-6 on a headtrip day, he goes 4-13 for 9th OA... to me, it's ruining his legacy.... but I guess he needs the cash that badly... 

Marchbanks- dood has been crushing all summer, but not today.. 

Osborne - 20-20 for 21st... I guess good exposure for beta??? 

Fineis - last week's darling just went 19-35 for 22kd OA... 

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Hymas - he says he's been building and his OA today proves he should be the man next year... but then, he was supposed to be the man this year so who knows... 

Davies - kid is figuring it out... he gonna be a beast in 27'... cringe lord lucky he gets one sx season without him on the gate... 

Gordon - barely saw him on the broadcast... damn lucky a 3-7 got him on the podium... only in a class this weak.. 

Juju - idk man... he should be a serious podium contender... instead he's an 8-4 guy... 

Levi - geezussss.... coulda woulda shoulda... 

Dax - how he still have a ride?? 

Adams - man... his progression just isn't happening very quickly... 

Mumford - yipessss... wrist injuries notttt good... 

Mosiman - 29-6 for 13th.... not good... but even worse...

Thrasher- 24-14 for 20th.... is he just frickn done w star, or he just that slow or injure  now days?? Not looking good for pc next year... 

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gt80rider wrote:
Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him...

Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... 

Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him.. had fastest lap... he's got the speed to win, but has he reached his ceiling? Is he gonna just be a supercross guy??? 

Cringe lord - he just isn't there and he may never get there, no matter what he posts on the gram... a lot of people,  in fact most, hit their speed ceiling after entering the 450s... staying up is a great thing, but if he ever wants to win, he's gotta push even more and have a few spills here and there.. would you rather be a 3rd place guy every year or win while missing some racing here and there?? 

Jett - if Jett pulls this off at 80 percent it will further cement him as an all time great.. 

Et3 - headtrip tomac isn't anything new.... but now instead of going 2-6 on a headtrip day, he goes 4-13 for 9th OA... to me, it's ruining his legacy.... but I guess he needs the cash that badly... 

Marchbanks- dood has been crushing all summer, but not today.. 

Osborne - 20-20 for 21st... I guess good exposure for beta??? 

Fineis - last week's darling just went 19-35 for 22kd OA... 

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Hymas - he says he's been building and his OA today proves he should be the man next year... but then, he was supposed to be the man this year so who knows... 

Davies - kid is figuring it out... he gonna be a beast in 27'... cringe lord lucky he gets one sx season without him on the gate... 

Gordon - barely saw him on the broadcast... damn lucky a 3-7 got him on the podium... only in a class this weak.. 

Juju - idk man... he should be a serious podium contender... instead he's an 8-4 guy... 

Levi - geezussss.... coulda woulda shoulda... 

Dax - how he still have a ride?? 

Adams - man... his progression just isn't happening very quickly... 

Mumford - yipessss... wrist injuries notttt good... 

Mosiman - 29-6 for 13th.... not good... but even worse...

Thrasher- 24-14 for 20th.... is he just frickn done w star, or he just that slow or injure  now days?? Not looking good for pc next year... 

Tomac doesn't care he isn't risking it for 10th

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RiceIsRice wrote:
Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line...

Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line. What a loser

Prado had to be pissed. What the actual F was that. Jett may have got him but Harrison made it easy. 

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RiceIsRice wrote:
Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line...

Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line. What a loser

KurtJ99 wrote:

Prado had to be pissed. What the actual F was that. Jett may have got him but Harrison made it easy. 

Why did Prado follow him right into the outside rut? So many of these pros make bad decisions when approaching slower riders. Dont follow.

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You seem to have developed a crush on Dangerboy.  He’s all you think about! 💁‍♂️

It’s WoPhat and Jettsonator

crash83 wrote:

Blocked all 3 of them first time I've had to do that since joining up in 2008.

My blocked list is like 15 now. 

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GD2 wrote:
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Zach Osborne 20-20 moto scores. 

 Got shafted and finished OA 21st

..at least he scored some points though(4)

Consistent rides, I'm thinking he will get into the top 20 next weekend...but barely. 

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8/22/2026 9:46pm
mx_phreek wrote:

A 1-2 will win championship for hunter next week, Jett needs a 1-1 day

Jett played it right. He got Hunter his points back, now he can even win a moto if he wants, but I’ll bet he’ll do everything to make sure H wins it.

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