Zacho for MXdN?

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Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

agn5008 wrote:

It’s so weird how guys just pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as a fact. 

crusher773 wrote:

It's pretty well known thats why he hasn't gone.  Tell us you are a Deegan nut hugger without telling us you are a Deegan nut hugger.

"Pretty well known" means that you should be able to show where he said that, right?  Go ahead a show everyone, I'm on your side if you can prove it... 

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Does Deagan even want to race?

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

agn5008 wrote:

It’s so weird how guys just pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as a fact. 

It's been mentioned on podcasts. Admittedly on Matthes based shows. I can't be bothered finding the exact shows. You're welcome to look. 

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Absolutely not. I’d put him in the 12 to 15 place at best at the remaining 3 Natty’s 

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Nobody wants to be part of the team that looses without Lawrence #1 and Lawrence #2 lined up. 
Damn, we’re in a tight spot. 

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I'm just in the boat of I want 3 guys that want to go. This crap of having to pay and talk Deegan into it is...

I'm just in the boat of I want 3 guys that want to go. This crap of having to pay and talk Deegan into it is ridiculous.   

jazza167 wrote:

Who foots the bill for bikes etc to get to ernee? Do you expect riders to cover their own cost to represent their country?

The teams foot the bill. I'm pretty sure in Donger's case the 'being paid' part is nothing to do with footing the bill. He want additional...

The teams foot the bill. I'm pretty sure in Donger's case the 'being paid' part is nothing to do with footing the bill. He want additional income over and above the costs of going.  

Lock him up and throw away the key…. Absurd that he wants to be compensated for his work?!?! You think the USA basketball team gets paid to do the olympics? 

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Boomslang wrote:

Where did he say he doesn't want to race? Link?  

Or did you pull that outa your rear valve? 

It's been mentioned in numerous podcasts. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Numerous podcasts have mentioned that Deegan won't race the MXoN unless he's paid? Seems like that would be bigger news . . .

to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just play podcasts in the background just for white noise sake or yal just don’t pay attention, Matthes on pulp has said this a of bunch times , even big lew mentioned it a couple of times , its no secret they want to get paid & to put my self in their shoes looking at it from a different perspective, I wouldn’t blame them , as these new generation boxers & mma fighters would say , ima prize fighter, I need to get paid for my service 🤷🏾‍♂️

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It's been mentioned in numerous podcasts. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Numerous podcasts have mentioned that Deegan won't race the MXoN unless he's paid? Seems like that would be bigger news . . .

dhp_mma94 wrote:
to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just...

to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just play podcasts in the background just for white noise sake or yal just don’t pay attention, Matthes on pulp has said this a of bunch times , even big lew mentioned it a couple of times , its no secret they want to get paid & to put my self in their shoes looking at it from a different perspective, I wouldn’t blame them , as these new generation boxers & mma fighters would say , ima prize fighter, I need to get paid for my service 🤷🏾‍♂️

I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's paid. Seems I only see that from guys like herr wolf that have no credibility. Wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless you are paid are two different things.

 

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Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

Boomslang wrote:

Where did he say he doesn't want to race? Link?  

Or did you pull that outa your rear valve? 

It's been mentioned in numerous podcasts. 

Yeah no….show us a link blowhard…

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It's been mentioned in numerous podcasts. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Numerous podcasts have mentioned that Deegan won't race the MXoN unless he's paid? Seems like that would be bigger news . . .

dhp_mma94 wrote:
to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just...

to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just play podcasts in the background just for white noise sake or yal just don’t pay attention, Matthes on pulp has said this a of bunch times , even big lew mentioned it a couple of times , its no secret they want to get paid & to put my self in their shoes looking at it from a different perspective, I wouldn’t blame them , as these new generation boxers & mma fighters would say , ima prize fighter, I need to get paid for my service 🤷🏾‍♂️

Those are their opinions but Deegan has never said that anywhere in fact Matthes is the one over the years that has said the riders should be paid and He’s the one that thinks it’s ridiculous that they are not….( I agree with Matthes on that)

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Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

agn5008 wrote:

It’s so weird how guys just pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as a fact. 

It's been mentioned on podcasts. Admittedly on Matthes based shows. I can't be bothered finding the exact shows. You're welcome to look. 

So you’re not willing to verify your claim? As I said, it’s weird how guys pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as fact. 

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Does Deagan even want to race?

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

BINGO

Mystery injury time is coming

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Does Deagan even want to race?

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

Paul333 wrote:

BINGO

Mystery injury time is coming

Zacho to………Deagan?

Y’all supposed to be grown ass men. 

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GrapeApe wrote:

Numerous podcasts have mentioned that Deegan won't race the MXoN unless he's paid? Seems like that would be bigger news . . .

dhp_mma94 wrote:
to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just...

to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just play podcasts in the background just for white noise sake or yal just don’t pay attention, Matthes on pulp has said this a of bunch times , even big lew mentioned it a couple of times , its no secret they want to get paid & to put my self in their shoes looking at it from a different perspective, I wouldn’t blame them , as these new generation boxers & mma fighters would say , ima prize fighter, I need to get paid for my service 🤷🏾‍♂️

GrapeApe wrote:
I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's...

I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's paid. Seems I only see that from guys like herr wolf that have no credibility. Wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless you are paid are two different things.

 

'If anything is noteworthy it will make it to the Vital Forum'. Have you read this forum?

Anyway, if you're not listening to podcasts you're going to miss a lot of information. 

As for your distinction between wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless he's paid, the clear sense of the info on the pods is that the Deegans won't go unless they are paid. It's not a matter of them saying they want to be paid (because they think it's right) but will go anyway. 

Finally, you realise Donger hasn't represented the USA three times in a row. Does that tell you anything? 

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Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

Paul333 wrote:

BINGO

Mystery injury time is coming

umagumadog wrote:

Zacho to………Deagan?

Y’all supposed to be grown ass men. 

What are you talking about?


”Grown Ass Men” don’t discuss who is or isn’t going?


Go away 

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I will also say I have been reading, hearing same thing. Deegan wont go unless paid. 

Now all those saying they don't blame him . "risking his life" blah blah bullshit. 

If the guy is constantly trying to spin the narrative that every thing he does is to be Americas hero. Like he is trying to beat the Lawrences for America. Just the amount of American hero stuff that has been spun (usually when he is losing), is too much for than that same camp sayin they don't want to ride for America in the only race that is literally about the country you represent. 

There are literally elite riders that have gone every year just to try Podium. How many years did Reed go. He isn't even an outdoor guy. 

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dhp_mma94 wrote:
to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just...

to come to herr lich defense here even tho he’s getting on my nerves with these crazy ass screenshots , I feel like either yal just play podcasts in the background just for white noise sake or yal just don’t pay attention, Matthes on pulp has said this a of bunch times , even big lew mentioned it a couple of times , its no secret they want to get paid & to put my self in their shoes looking at it from a different perspective, I wouldn’t blame them , as these new generation boxers & mma fighters would say , ima prize fighter, I need to get paid for my service 🤷🏾‍♂️

GrapeApe wrote:
I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's...

I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's paid. Seems I only see that from guys like herr wolf that have no credibility. Wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless you are paid are two different things.

 

'If anything is noteworthy it will make it to the Vital Forum'. Have you read this forum?Anyway, if you're not listening to podcasts you're going to...

'If anything is noteworthy it will make it to the Vital Forum'. Have you read this forum?

Anyway, if you're not listening to podcasts you're going to miss a lot of information. 

As for your distinction between wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless he's paid, the clear sense of the info on the pods is that the Deegans won't go unless they are paid. It's not a matter of them saying they want to be paid (because they think it's right) but will go anyway. 

Finally, you realise Donger hasn't represented the USA three times in a row. Does that tell you anything? 

Since you deleted your response I’ll ask again….show me a link where anyone in the Deegan camp said they won’t go unless they’re paid…

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There are a lot of factory riders coming back this week.  His results would have probably been better at washougal. 

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jazza167 wrote:

Who foots the bill for bikes etc to get to ernee? Do you expect riders to cover their own cost to represent their country?

Perky wrote:
Downvote if I’m wrong but I don’t remember there being this much of an excuse about who’s paying what and riders not going because of it...

Downvote if I’m wrong but I don’t remember there being this much of an excuse about who’s paying what and riders not going because of it until recent years. Outside of an occasional rider sitting out to train for Monster Cup, we just picked the best and the best went.

Hell, wasn’t it Tedesco that broke his foot just before the event in ‘08 or ‘09 and rode anyway? We used to get excited about it but now every time MXdN comes up it feels like a charity event.

You are mistaken, it happens more than you realize. In the 70s it was very difficult to get riders to go, we sent no teams at all in 1979 or 1980. Americas very first victory in the event was realized when Decoster sent his Honda team riders to the event because nobody else would go; I believe he continued to do this for several years. I understand the fans being pissed, but the organizers make a shit ton of money at this event to the expense of the riders, I understand riders not wanting to go after a long season as well. Say you spent a 32 week stretch working seven days a week flying out of town every weekend and somebody asked you to work for nothing so they could make bookoo bucks? Don't wrap in the flag too tightly.

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Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Not unless he's paid.  And there's a good chance the USA can win. 

So no, he doesn't want to race. American 'patriot' my arse...

Run that sh!t back😈 Rookie season⏰

Boomslang wrote:

Where did he say he doesn't want to race? Link?  

Or did you pull that outa your rear valve? 

It's been mentioned in numerous podcasts. 

Yes, previously...not for 2026 tho

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DonM wrote:

Since you deleted your response I’ll ask again….show me a link where anyone in the Deegan camp said they won’t go unless they’re paid…

I'm asking the same question, and none of these dudes can answer that.

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lol Zach goes to Loretta’s beats Phil and kids who are still wet behind the ears and now he’s our best 450 rider? 🤡

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DonM wrote:

Since you deleted your response I’ll ask again….show me a link where anyone in the Deegan camp said they won’t go unless they’re paid…

Boomslang wrote:

I'm asking the same question, and none of these dudes can answer that.

It’s because it’s their assumptions and not facts but they’ll still shit on him when he announces he is going…

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jazza167 wrote:

Who foots the bill for bikes etc to get to ernee? Do you expect riders to cover their own cost to represent their country?

Perky wrote:
Downvote if I’m wrong but I don’t remember there being this much of an excuse about who’s paying what and riders not going because of it...

Downvote if I’m wrong but I don’t remember there being this much of an excuse about who’s paying what and riders not going because of it until recent years. Outside of an occasional rider sitting out to train for Monster Cup, we just picked the best and the best went.

Hell, wasn’t it Tedesco that broke his foot just before the event in ‘08 or ‘09 and rode anyway? We used to get excited about it but now every time MXdN comes up it feels like a charity event.

Spoonguy wrote:
You are mistaken, it happens more than you realize. In the 70s it was very difficult to get riders to go, we sent no teams at...

You are mistaken, it happens more than you realize. In the 70s it was very difficult to get riders to go, we sent no teams at all in 1979 or 1980. Americas very first victory in the event was realized when Decoster sent his Honda team riders to the event because nobody else would go; I believe he continued to do this for several years. I understand the fans being pissed, but the organizers make a shit ton of money at this event to the expense of the riders, I understand riders not wanting to go after a long season as well. Say you spent a 32 week stretch working seven days a week flying out of town every weekend and somebody asked you to work for nothing so they could make bookoo bucks? Don't wrap in the flag too tightly.

Fundraising has never been easier, most other countries have do it to cover costs. 
Zero excuses for somewhere like the States, with such a big population and a huge moto industry.

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