Lucas Mirtl Update, Case Dismissed!?

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jaun wrote:
Easy to make that much money when you aren't paying the merch suppliers.I believe that's how it all come to light, Alpinestars said hey you guys...

Easy to make that much money when you aren't paying the merch suppliers.

I believe that's how it all come to light, Alpinestars said hey you guys owe us $50,000 for the mech stuff we haven't been paid so we will take it out of the sponsorship payments.

Then obviously they have said WTF and started looking.

I think the number was much higher than that. I think it was $250k if I remember correctly. They might not have noticed $50k for a while. 

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You can't get blood from a turnip.

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Arbitration 

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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Do what OJ did....

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I order to “beat” someone representing themselves i guess it costs 690k lol. 

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

I'm guessing that Wasserman will recover peanuts.  They can try to force sales of any hard assets that can be located and garnish any bank accounts, etc., but from what I've read, there is likely to be little available to satisfy the judgment.

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almost $1M in overhead because his ego was too big to settle early. wow. their lawyers put in 1,300+ hours on this case lmao just for him to lose (settle?) in arbitration anyway

 

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Happens a lot. Basically you are SOL. 

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

JMCR250 wrote:
I'm guessing that Wasserman will recover peanuts.  They can try to force sales of any hard assets that can be located and garnish any bank accounts...

I'm guessing that Wasserman will recover peanuts.  They can try to force sales of any hard assets that can be located and garnish any bank accounts, etc., but from what I've read, there is likely to be little available to satisfy the judgment.

Even the skinny jeans have been pawned off...he's down to his last pair.  

He even tried his hand at 'babysitting'.  But it didn't work out...as you can imagine. 

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jaun wrote:
Easy to make that much money when you aren't paying the merch suppliers.I believe that's how it all come to light, Alpinestars said hey you guys...

Easy to make that much money when you aren't paying the merch suppliers.

I believe that's how it all come to light, Alpinestars said hey you guys owe us $50,000 for the mech stuff we haven't been paid so we will take it out of the sponsorship payments.

Then obviously they have said WTF and started looking.

I think the number was much higher than that. I think it was $250k if I remember correctly. They might not have noticed $50k for a...

I think the number was much higher than that. I think it was $250k if I remember correctly. They might not have noticed $50k for a while. 

$500k+

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are anywhere from $8 up to about $75.   If he owed me a million, I'd still be getting the same checks. 

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Scott14 wrote:
A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are...

A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are anywhere from $8 up to about $75.   If he owed me a million, I'd still be getting the same checks. 

do they apply interest to that or no?

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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Scott14 wrote:
A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are...

A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are anywhere from $8 up to about $75.   If he owed me a million, I'd still be getting the same checks. 

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do they apply interest to that or no?

Not as far as I know. I never thought I'd see a dime and had completely forgotten about it when the checks started to come. 

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Has he posted another insane social media rant after this judgement?  

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Has he posted another insane social media rant after this judgement?  

Misread your comment….

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Jdog2221 wrote:
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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Scott14 wrote:
A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are...

A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are anywhere from $8 up to about $75.   If he owed me a million, I'd still be getting the same checks. 

Got a total of 8 million settle from abusiness and the the dude that killed my son. Not a penny yet

 Possible when the for we might get something from their estate. Depends how well the spend their money and hide/sell off their assets. At least that's what the lawyers are saying. They even hired out a group that does nothing but hints for the money. They also get a percentage on top of the lawyers 37%>

They basically said to hope got to hope for the best but not to get to hopefully. 

As long as it makes their life a little harder and more miserable I'm okay with that. 

 

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Has he posted another insane social media rant after this judgement?  

No, but he’s parting out an e2 on Facebook😂

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This is a really stupid question but what happens if someone with zero assets and no job gets sued for an amount like this?

Scott14 wrote:
A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are...

A thief was ordered to pay me restitution of $1,200 about 15 years ago. I still get checks from the court on his behalf. They are anywhere from $8 up to about $75.   If he owed me a million, I'd still be getting the same checks. 

gharmon wrote:
Got a total of 8 million settle from abusiness and the the dude that killed my son. Not a penny yet Possible when the for we might...

Got a total of 8 million settle from abusiness and the the dude that killed my son. Not a penny yet

 Possible when the for we might get something from their estate. Depends how well the spend their money and hide/sell off their assets. At least that's what the lawyers are saying. They even hired out a group that does nothing but hints for the money. They also get a percentage on top of the lawyers 37%>

They basically said to hope got to hope for the best but not to get to hopefully. 

As long as it makes their life a little harder and more miserable I'm okay with that. 

 

Hey man, I’m really sorry to hear about your son. I wish you and your family the best. 

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Apparently his house was foreclosed on. 

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Wait, this can’t be correct!  

Kooksey said that he ‘had a plan to repay the money’ and if you have a plan to repay the money, even if it’s just in your head, you aren’t doing anything wrong…..! 

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Judge Brazil was an excellent Federal Magistrate when he was on the bench and is a very respected arbitrator and mediator.

They'll have a judgment out of this, which can be used for an extended period of time to attach property he's hidden or gets in the future.  Interest will run on the judgment amount until it's paid.  But, yes, a judgment where there are no assets makes it hard to collect.  

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So, let's say the Lawrence's win their case too, who gets paid first, Wasserman since their case closed first? Or would things get split?

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Dan541 wrote:

So, let's say the Lawrence's win their case too, who gets paid first, Wasserman since their case closed first? Or would things get split?

Wasserman will be first in time to get their judgment liens recorded and start the collection process for what that's worth. Even if he owns unencumbered assets Texas is a debtor haven with broad exemptions from creditors. It's a tough place to collect money. Florida, too.

 

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Dan541 wrote:

So, let's say the Lawrence's win their case too, who gets paid first, Wasserman since their case closed first? Or would things get split?

GrapeApe wrote:
Wasserman will be first in time to get their judgment liens recorded and start the collection process for what that's worth. Even if he owns unencumbered...

Wasserman will be first in time to get their judgment liens recorded and start the collection process for what that's worth. Even if he owns unencumbered assets Texas is a debtor haven with broad exemptions from creditors. It's a tough place to collect money. Florida, too.

 

Yep.  Fraudsters who fear the end of their schemes drawing near often flee to TX or FL to try to insulate their assets from judgment creditors.

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Dan541 wrote:

So, let's say the Lawrence's win their case too, who gets paid first, Wasserman since their case closed first? Or would things get split?

I thought that the Lawrences dropped their case and it became a criminal case? 

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