Anyone at Archview Regional?

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

What am I missing here?

Why would he do that?

lostboy819 wrote:

WestoftheElwha wrote:

You guys don’t know shit . He’s getting gate drops against good competition while trying for mini sr 1 . The kid is a phenom and a nice...

You guys don’t know shit . 

He’s getting gate drops against good competition while trying for mini sr 1 . 

The kid is a phenom and a nice kid

You all want to watch pro moto but have an issue with what it takes to create a pro 

mxracer816 wrote:

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is...

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is supposed to be qualified for? Rain has no effect on that. That's the point, there wouldn't be multiple divisions of a class that only 40 kids should be qualified for if some entity wasn't money hungry and trying to siphon every dollar they can out of these events. All amateur motocross is suffering because of these things. Too many classes, too many participation trophies, and too many sandbaggers. All in the name of the Almighty dollar.

Meister wrote:

People complaining about this dudes premium parking. Wait till they sign up for Lorettas and see its $878 for camping and wrist bands. Then $250 a...

People complaining about this dudes premium parking. Wait till they sign up for Lorettas and see its $878 for camping and wrist bands. Then $250 a class, $200 an extra vehicle, and $125 for a pit vehicle lol.

Meister wrote:

People complaining about this dudes premium parking. Wait till they sign up for Lorettas and see its $878 for camping and wrist bands. Then $250 a...

People complaining about this dudes premium parking. Wait till they sign up for Lorettas and see its $878 for camping and wrist bands. Then $250 a class, $200 an extra vehicle, and $125 for a pit vehicle lol.

NicNak wrote:

The $878 only gets you in Sunday too. Last time I went it was $75 per day early arrival 

Richard Tease II wrote:

Here's how I read it.A. You must qualify out of your area to participate in the regional systsem.B.  Once area qualified you can go to any...

Here's how I read it.

A. You must qualify out of your area to participate in the regional systsem.

B.  Once area qualified you can go to any regional?

C. People who hadn't qualified from the areas events lined up at this regional.

D. Can those who didn't qualify from the area program still get to LL's through a regional even though they failed at the first step "A" in the qualifying system (area's)

Hers how I thought it went.

You must qualify in the area first. You then must qualify out of the regional to get your "ticket".

If you didn't qualify from the regional you could be an alternate.

mxracer816 wrote:

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is...

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is supposed to be qualified for? Rain has no effect on that. That's the point, there wouldn't be multiple divisions of a class that only 40 kids should be qualified for if some entity wasn't money hungry and trying to siphon every dollar they can out of these events. All amateur motocross is suffering because of these things. Too many classes, too many participation trophies, and too many sandbaggers. All in the name of the Almighty dollar.

Rickyisms wrote:

I remember when I tried to qualify for my first time 10 something years ago, we were talking with our friends who had two kids who...

I remember when I tried to qualify for my first time 10 something years ago, we were talking with our friends who had two kids who qualified in multiple classes every year. At one point one of them says “You know if you don’t make it through here, you can still show up to the regional and try”. I looked over at my dad kind of intrigued and he didn’t hesitate to say “We’re not fucking doing that.” in front of everyone. 

JustMX wrote:

Tighten up the qualifiers.Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionalsX 8 areas = 32 riders5-10 places at the area can go to regional and...

Tighten up the qualifiers.

Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionals

X 8 areas = 32 riders

5-10 places at the area can go to regional and run a friday qualifer and lcq for the nine open gates. The lcqs could run on saturday morning to start the racing.

If there are any riders I that had already ridden and qualied at an area only one counts, and go back more positions to fill the 32 held spots.

After the lcqs which would go quick, start with the first rotation of the 3 moto format.

Friday would be a little longer day than it is now, but promoters can still run practice for 6 hours and then run the qualfiers which should have a hard cap of 40 riders. Top 7 go into main, top 2 from lcq saturday.

Ease the pain of not making the cut by refunding sunday gate/parking fees if they leave by 1 pm saturday.

 

mxracer816 wrote:

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is...

Regardless, how is it acceptable for people that didn't make it through the area qualifier to pay money and line up for an event that is supposed to be qualified for? Rain has no effect on that. That's the point, there wouldn't be multiple divisions of a class that only 40 kids should be qualified for if some entity wasn't money hungry and trying to siphon every dollar they can out of these events. All amateur motocross is suffering because of these things. Too many classes, too many participation trophies, and too many sandbaggers. All in the name of the Almighty dollar.

Rickyisms wrote:

I remember when I tried to qualify for my first time 10 something years ago, we were talking with our friends who had two kids who...

I remember when I tried to qualify for my first time 10 something years ago, we were talking with our friends who had two kids who qualified in multiple classes every year. At one point one of them says “You know if you don’t make it through here, you can still show up to the regional and try”. I looked over at my dad kind of intrigued and he didn’t hesitate to say “We’re not fucking doing that.” in front of everyone. 

pops wrote:

You can do that, if you don’t qualify inside the top nine in your area!! but if you can’t qualify in the top nine in an...

You can do that, if you don’t qualify inside the top nine in your area!! but if you can’t qualify in the top nine in an area, the chances of qualifying in the top six at a regional are slim to none!!! Unless you were hurt and only rode the area so you could go to the regional!! but you must complete half the laps in one of the motos to even qualify to go to the regional!! my rider did that this year because he was hurt!! and then qualified for two classes at the regional!! but he had to complete half the laps of one Moto at the area to even be considered as an alternate!! hopefully this clears up some of the bullshit people have been saying on here!!

JustMX wrote:

Tighten up the qualifiers.Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionalsX 8 areas = 32 riders5-10 places at the area can go to regional and...

Tighten up the qualifiers.

Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionals

X 8 areas = 32 riders

5-10 places at the area can go to regional and run a friday qualifer and lcq for the nine open gates. The lcqs could run on saturday morning to start the racing.

If there are any riders I that had already ridden and qualied at an area only one counts, and go back more positions to fill the 32 held spots.

After the lcqs which would go quick, start with the first rotation of the 3 moto format.

Friday would be a little longer day than it is now, but promoters can still run practice for 6 hours and then run the qualfiers which should have a hard cap of 40 riders. Top 7 go into main, top 2 from lcq saturday.

Ease the pain of not making the cut by refunding sunday gate/parking fees if they leave by 1 pm saturday.

 

truck wrote:

Not a bad idea but they're never going to refund anyone. Eating that cost would have to just fall on the people taking the risk to...

Not a bad idea but they're never going to refund anyone. Eating that cost would have to just fall on the people taking the risk to race a regional they didn't qualify for. Might cut down on the people attempting it to those that have a realistic shot but had a mechanical or crash or something at area. Right now the setup encourages max sign ups and revenue so doubt there's going to be much motivation to change it. 

I'm also curious how much of an issue this was at the other regionals? Maybe it's not that big of a deal as is at tracks big enough to handle it. 

JustMX wrote:

Tighten up the qualifiers.Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionalsX 8 areas = 32 riders5-10 places at the area can go to regional and...

Tighten up the qualifiers.

Top 4 are guaranteed a gate at the regionals

X 8 areas = 32 riders

5-10 places at the area can go to regional and run a friday qualifer and lcq for the nine open gates. The lcqs could run on saturday morning to start the racing.

If there are any riders I that had already ridden and qualied at an area only one counts, and go back more positions to fill the 32 held spots.

After the lcqs which would go quick, start with the first rotation of the 3 moto format.

Friday would be a little longer day than it is now, but promoters can still run practice for 6 hours and then run the qualfiers which should have a hard cap of 40 riders. Top 7 go into main, top 2 from lcq saturday.

Ease the pain of not making the cut by refunding sunday gate/parking fees if they leave by 1 pm saturday.

 

truck wrote:

Not a bad idea but they're never going to refund anyone. Eating that cost would have to just fall on the people taking the risk to...

Not a bad idea but they're never going to refund anyone. Eating that cost would have to just fall on the people taking the risk to race a regional they didn't qualify for. Might cut down on the people attempting it to those that have a realistic shot but had a mechanical or crash or something at area. Right now the setup encourages max sign ups and revenue so doubt there's going to be much motivation to change it. 

I'm also curious how much of an issue this was at the other regionals? Maybe it's not that big of a deal as is at tracks big enough to handle it. 

JMCR250 wrote:

There was plenty of room at Archview, once the owner lined up additional parking at an adjacent industrial facility late Friday or very early Saturday.  I...

There was plenty of room at Archview, once the owner lined up additional parking at an adjacent industrial facility late Friday or very early Saturday.  I arrived at the track at 7 am Saturday, and there were no lines, and lots of open spaces on concrete or gravel pads.  I pulled right in and grabbed an empty spot.  

I think one of the issues was that this was the last regional before LL, so anyone who wanted to make a last effort to get in or better their position was there.