L.A. Mayoral Race

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R66 wrote:

I heard they accept mail in ballots with hand written dates. No post mark is required. Seems fair. 

peelout wrote:

is it still illegal to show an ID to vote in CA?

Just need to put an X on the line in CA, but if you pull the tag off your mattress, it's life in jail 

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I am usually able to abstain from involvement in circle jerk threads.  I will spend some time reflecting on this most recent failure.

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R66 wrote:

I heard they accept mail in ballots with hand written dates. No post mark is required. Seems fair. 

peelout wrote:

is it still illegal to show an ID to vote in CA?

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

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R66 wrote:

I heard they accept mail in ballots with hand written dates. No post mark is required. Seems fair. 

peelout wrote:

is it still illegal to show an ID to vote in CA?

KennyT wrote:
Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what...

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.

How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state?  Oh yeah... They verify the signatures. HAHAHAHA!!!

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I vote in every single election but I'm really starting to wonder why, it seems like a waste of time. When do we start shooting ?  5 years from now ? 10 years from now ? Sooner or later the shits gonna hit the fan and history will repeat itself.  Every single year there's some new tax for this or that or some other fucking thing and we get a little less of each dollar we make for a small group to make sure they get re-elected. While become millionaires of course. Every year. At some point the side paying is going to say fuck yoooooo...ka-boom mother fuckers. Part of me hopes that's wrong and common sense will prevail, part of me says I have kids and grandkids to think about, we need to fix this bullshit for them starting right the fuck now. Signed, 67 year resident of Ca. 

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https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2026-06-05/how-simple-mix-up-fueled-false-conspiracies-about-la-vote-count

"Justin Grimmer, a political science professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who researches and evaluates claims of election fraud, conducted his own data analysis of the vote updates, and came to the same conclusion.

He said there was an initial update with no Pratt votes, but a second one 41 seconds later with no votes for Bass or Raman — leading him to believe the single batch of ballots was just reported in two back-to-back updates rather than one.

“Because they came so close together, it looks like it was just a sequence of updates,” he said.

Grimmer said news outlets are “thinking about speed” and the best way to get people the most accurate information as quickly as possible, but “haven’t quite adjusted to being in this world where there’s this group of people who monitor these data feeds as if they are official government reports.”"

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I live in Los Angeles County and wished I could have voted for the Mayor of the City of Los Angeles because there's no way in hell I would have voted for Karen (Castro Loving - No Show - Money Launderer) Bass nor Nythia (Ultra Progressive - Socialist) Raman. Nythia Raman put a motion forward a few weeks ago to ban people in the city of LA from BBQing on windy days and also wanted ban ALL gas appliances. Spencer Pratt may not have been the ideal candidate but what was to lose? He certainly would not have made it worse. 

On the ballot right now for the County of Los Angeles is a measure (measure ER) to temporarily raise the sales tax 1/2% for medical services for ONLY 5 YEARS (When has a temporary tax ever been temporary?). Election night it was a 54% NO and 46% YES. Now the YES vote leads by 2400 ballots. If this passes, where I live in Palmdale / Lancaster will have the HIGHEST sales tax rate in the entire USA at 11 3/4%. 😬

I am glad that at least Steve Hilton made the Primary in November. 

All you Californians on the board NEED to vote for the Voter ID measure on the Ballot in November. We need to end the voting and ballot counting madness in our state.

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6/10/2026 6:53am

 Nothing to see here, these are not the drones you’re lookin for………..

Events like these make it harder and harder for the “Election Integrity” crowd to keep beating their chest. 

Democrat or Republican, voting and election integrity is paramount. 

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The last Republican mayor of LA was elected in 1997. Over 20 years before the all mail in ballot fiasco. Now maybe some of you guys are just election integrity crusaders and if that's it, then I am with you 100% on mail in ballots. And I will vote for voter ID. And I would also vote to repeal the mandatory mail in ballot law. But that has little or nothing to do with why Pratt lost. In fact Pratt was an amazing over achiever when you look at how the odds stacked up against him. If anything looks fishy about the election it's how the hell did he get that many votes. 

Who is responsible for why this state is so blue?  It's your goddam neighbors. Wish I had an answer for that one.

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Yep, that is 100% true. The amount of Californians that have moved to Arizona is crazy and yes I know I'm one but I don't try...

Yep, that is 100% true. The amount of Californians that have moved to Arizona is crazy and yes I know I'm one but I don't try to change this state's policies by voting liberal like a lot have.

I will not go to a sporting event when the Dodgers or Lakers are in town, because half the stadium are LA fans and they are obnoxious! 🤬

You one of the few. Az especially phoenix is quickly becoming a shit hole. Anything Thunderbird and south is garbage

MX45 wrote:
That's my neighborhood, and you ain't wrong.I picked this area over 20 years ago because it was affordable, mature, middle class. Most of my neighbors were...

That's my neighborhood, and you ain't wrong.

I picked this area over 20 years ago because it was affordable, mature, middle class. Most of my neighbors were elderly, empty nest, original home owners. It felt safe, small town-like. I didn't have a family at the time, but I thought I was in a good place to start one.

Then Sheriff Joe got voted out. No more tent city, no more consequences. They made basic law enforcement like traffic stops a "racial profiling" issue. 

Then the public light rail train got extended to mid-town. Then all the way up to Metro Center. Metro Center area had already fallen from glory since the Bill and Ted days. Bringing the light rail to that area just sealed the deal. It is now a haven for low-lifes and criminals. If they can't catch a free ride on the light rail, they just use the canal system to travel on their stolen BMX bikes. There are homeless camps all along the canal, inside the tunnels, and every bush is used as a bathroom. I used to ride my bike 30+ miles along the canal, not any more. I don't want to ride through human feces or get stabbed if I drop into the wrong tunnel.

The Phoenix marathon was a few months ago. Their plan to "clean up the route" was impossible, so they just changed the route to avoid (hide from) the bad areas.

My point relating to the topic here is, my area of town was great at one time. Then the socialist programs allowed all the freeloaders to find a new home in my neighborhood.

Now I have a family, and I am concerned about their safety. Why are my concerns on safety overridden to help people who have no concern for my safety?

My wife won't get gas at our nearest gas station any more unless it mid-day and too hot for the zombies. There have been 2 shootings and a stabbing at that gas station in the past 9 months, each time around 7am. That's when the withdrawal starts and they have to find their fix for the day before it gets hot. She carries CCW, but it's best to just avoid the possibility of being some fentanyl fiend's target.

A few of our neighbors (me included) have gotten together to form and neighborhood watch. We've ran out more than 6 attempted homeless camps in the past 2 years. I love my neighbors for sticking together. But it's only a matter of time before it's too much to handle. It will only get worse.

We are looking to move. It's almost not a choice at this point if I want my family to feel safe. 

I have a house in mid-town that I used to live in.  I've since moved to Gilbert and rent it now.  We just got our black cans so they can shut down our trash collection in the alley and gate it off.  That said, I always had luck with calling the Phx Police non-emergency when someone was camping out in the alleyway.  The police would respond in minutes typically and have them move along or arrested.  If you're having camping issues in your alley, call the non-emergency number and they will help.  If they don't offer help immediately refer to Phoenix city code 36-61.  It's my opinion that the police are just as sick of this shit as we are.

Either way just trying to offer some help that worked for me.

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6/10/2026 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2026 1:35pm
peelout wrote:

is it still illegal to show an ID to vote in CA?

KennyT wrote:
Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what...

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state...

I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.

How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state?  Oh yeah... They verify the signatures. HAHAHAHA!!!

I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one is for my tenant who moved to Utah 8 years ago. 

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6/10/2026 3:06pm
KennyT wrote:
Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what...

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state...

I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.

How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state?  Oh yeah... They verify the signatures. HAHAHAHA!!!

KennyT wrote:
I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one...

I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one is for my tenant who moved to Utah 8 years ago. 

SMH!🤦‍♂️ 

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6/10/2026 3:47pm
KennyT wrote:
Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what...

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state...

I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.

How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state?  Oh yeah... They verify the signatures. HAHAHAHA!!!

KennyT wrote:
I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one...

I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one is for my tenant who moved to Utah 8 years ago. 

And there we have it, folks!

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6/10/2026 7:40pm

Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You should have to walk your ass into the booth and check the box on Election Day. You should stand in line bored like everyone else. If you can’t be bothered to spend your own free time getting to the poll and casting your vote, you obviously don’t care enough. Save a sick day from your work. Call a friend if you can’t drive. Leave the kids at grandmas. Plan your vacation for another week. Show up or shut up. 

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Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You...

Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You should have to walk your ass into the booth and check the box on Election Day. You should stand in line bored like everyone else. If you can’t be bothered to spend your own free time getting to the poll and casting your vote, you obviously don’t care enough. Save a sick day from your work. Call a friend if you can’t drive. Leave the kids at grandmas. Plan your vacation for another week. Show up or shut up. 

I agree with the concession that voting in person needs to be made a little more convenient. A lot of folks in concentrated population areas, ie: big cities, shouldn't have to take a half, if not a full day off of work to vote.

Then again, I think that's the whole point. Get rid of mail in ballots while simultaneously making it more difficult to vote in person. Win-Win for politicians!

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Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You...

Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You should have to walk your ass into the booth and check the box on Election Day. You should stand in line bored like everyone else. If you can’t be bothered to spend your own free time getting to the poll and casting your vote, you obviously don’t care enough. Save a sick day from your work. Call a friend if you can’t drive. Leave the kids at grandmas. Plan your vacation for another week. Show up or shut up. 

You are 100% right. Mail in ballots sets the system up for fraud which is running rampant in California. It's legalized fraud but fraud non the less on how it's carried out.

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6/10/2026 8:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2026 8:28pm
Moto Nomad wrote:
So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost...

So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. 

This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost 10 years and have had the sense this place could flip eventually. This is the state that gave us Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, after all. What amazes me is how long it took the people of LA to want change (only after almost total devastation from homelessness, crime, corruption and fraud).

Even my liberal friends admit the Dem Party sucks but it's always the "lesser of two evils" argument.

 

borg wrote:
They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered...

They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered 2 to 1 by Democrats. And very few Republicans in a city like LA. It's fucking hopeless. Trump was making headway with Hispanics in California until he started in with the ICE raids. He blew away hundreds of thousands of votes just to send a few hundred packing. They arrested a whopping 800 in the first two weeks of June. At that rate all 12 million will be gone in 500 years. 

Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.

Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered voters in LA city. LA has a population of roughly 4,000,000 17 year old and younger account for approx 25% so let's bring that down to 3,000,000. Also googler says approx 39% foreign born population so some have probably been naturalized so let's call it 33%. Now we're down to 2,000,000 people that are eligible to register. I seriously doubt that all illegible people are registered. So the googler's number of registered voters somewhat tracks at 1,000,000.

Now, you add up the "votes" of the mayoral candidates 800,000 plus votes. In a state that had an average voter participation rate of 25% and LA mayoral had 80%? Even you have to question where those votes came from.

TM

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Moto Nomad wrote:
So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost...

So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. 

This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost 10 years and have had the sense this place could flip eventually. This is the state that gave us Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, after all. What amazes me is how long it took the people of LA to want change (only after almost total devastation from homelessness, crime, corruption and fraud).

Even my liberal friends admit the Dem Party sucks but it's always the "lesser of two evils" argument.

 

borg wrote:
They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered...

They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered 2 to 1 by Democrats. And very few Republicans in a city like LA. It's fucking hopeless. Trump was making headway with Hispanics in California until he started in with the ICE raids. He blew away hundreds of thousands of votes just to send a few hundred packing. They arrested a whopping 800 in the first two weeks of June. At that rate all 12 million will be gone in 500 years. 

ToolMaker wrote:
Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered...

Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.

Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered voters in LA city. LA has a population of roughly 4,000,000 17 year old and younger account for approx 25% so let's bring that down to 3,000,000. Also googler says approx 39% foreign born population so some have probably been naturalized so let's call it 33%. Now we're down to 2,000,000 people that are eligible to register. I seriously doubt that all illegible people are registered. So the googler's number of registered voters somewhat tracks at 1,000,000.

Now, you add up the "votes" of the mayoral candidates 800,000 plus votes. In a state that had an average voter participation rate of 25% and LA mayoral had 80%? Even you have to question where those votes came from.

TM

There were over 2.1 million registered voters in the city of Los Angeles in 2024. Probably close to that same number now. 

https://ens.lacity.org/clk/elections/clkelections3296176745_01052024.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

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Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You...

Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You should have to walk your ass into the booth and check the box on Election Day. You should stand in line bored like everyone else. If you can’t be bothered to spend your own free time getting to the poll and casting your vote, you obviously don’t care enough. Save a sick day from your work. Call a friend if you can’t drive. Leave the kids at grandmas. Plan your vacation for another week. Show up or shut up. 

What about grandmas vote?

Our kids don't have grandmas anymore,  but their grandpas would not be able to stand in line for hours. And they can't walk very far.

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Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You...

Not a popular opinion, but vote by mail needs to go. Voting should be 100% in person. It’s a civic duty, not a civic convenience. You should have to walk your ass into the booth and check the box on Election Day. You should stand in line bored like everyone else. If you can’t be bothered to spend your own free time getting to the poll and casting your vote, you obviously don’t care enough. Save a sick day from your work. Call a friend if you can’t drive. Leave the kids at grandmas. Plan your vacation for another week. Show up or shut up. 

ns503 wrote:
What about grandmas vote?Our kids don't have grandmas anymore,  but their grandpas would not be able to stand in line for hours. And they can't walk...

What about grandmas vote?

Our kids don't have grandmas anymore,  but their grandpas would not be able to stand in line for hours. And they can't walk very far.

Special provisions. 

My mother used to request a mail-in because she was unable to go in person. Just like military personnel, they can send you one if need be.

Every registered voter doesn't "need" one.

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Moto Nomad wrote:
So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost...

So the Dems can commence their ballot harvesting, ballot hiding etc. and all the other hyjinks. 

This is all very encouraging though. I have been here almost 10 years and have had the sense this place could flip eventually. This is the state that gave us Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, after all. What amazes me is how long it took the people of LA to want change (only after almost total devastation from homelessness, crime, corruption and fraud).

Even my liberal friends admit the Dem Party sucks but it's always the "lesser of two evils" argument.

 

borg wrote:
They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered...

They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered 2 to 1 by Democrats. And very few Republicans in a city like LA. It's fucking hopeless. Trump was making headway with Hispanics in California until he started in with the ICE raids. He blew away hundreds of thousands of votes just to send a few hundred packing. They arrested a whopping 800 in the first two weeks of June. At that rate all 12 million will be gone in 500 years. 

ToolMaker wrote:
Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered...

Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.

Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered voters in LA city. LA has a population of roughly 4,000,000 17 year old and younger account for approx 25% so let's bring that down to 3,000,000. Also googler says approx 39% foreign born population so some have probably been naturalized so let's call it 33%. Now we're down to 2,000,000 people that are eligible to register. I seriously doubt that all illegible people are registered. So the googler's number of registered voters somewhat tracks at 1,000,000.

Now, you add up the "votes" of the mayoral candidates 800,000 plus votes. In a state that had an average voter participation rate of 25% and LA mayoral had 80%? Even you have to question where those votes came from.

TM

2,216,609 registered voters in city of LA.

Reported turnout 37%

I don't know where your numbers come from.

 

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KennyT wrote:
Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what...

Last time I went to the polling place I reached for my license and the lady said she just needs my name. I don’t care what side you are on, it seems obscene we are not required to show ID to cast a vote. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state...

I laugh at the argument that giving an ID to register is enough.

How's that work for mail-in ballots that get sent to everyone in the state?  Oh yeah... They verify the signatures. HAHAHAHA!!!

KennyT wrote:
I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one...

I’ve been in my current house for 21 years. Each election I receive 4  extra ballots. 3 of them are for deceased and the 4th one is for my tenant who moved to Utah 8 years ago. 

I believe you. I’m sure that sort of thing can happen. 

On the flip side, I’ve moved a few times over the past 10-12 years and I think I can only recall getting one ballot for someone who no longer lived at that address. That’s spanning 3 states, and 5 counties. I did have my own ballot get flagged once because I was out of town and hadn’t mailed it in yet so I had my wife seal it and sign it. Come to find out, they actually do match signatures, or at least that county did!  
 

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6/11/2026 6:45am
borg wrote:
They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered...

They don't need to cheat. Pratt has no chance in the general. California has more Republicans than any state in the country but they are outnumbered 2 to 1 by Democrats. And very few Republicans in a city like LA. It's fucking hopeless. Trump was making headway with Hispanics in California until he started in with the ICE raids. He blew away hundreds of thousands of votes just to send a few hundred packing. They arrested a whopping 800 in the first two weeks of June. At that rate all 12 million will be gone in 500 years. 

ToolMaker wrote:
Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered...

Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.

Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered voters in LA city. LA has a population of roughly 4,000,000 17 year old and younger account for approx 25% so let's bring that down to 3,000,000. Also googler says approx 39% foreign born population so some have probably been naturalized so let's call it 33%. Now we're down to 2,000,000 people that are eligible to register. I seriously doubt that all illegible people are registered. So the googler's number of registered voters somewhat tracks at 1,000,000.

Now, you add up the "votes" of the mayoral candidates 800,000 plus votes. In a state that had an average voter participation rate of 25% and LA mayoral had 80%? Even you have to question where those votes came from.

TM

borg wrote:

2,216,609 registered voters in city of LA.

Reported turnout 37%

I don't know where your numbers come from.

 

I asked the googler's AI about that and it's response was that the registered voter roll is higher because it does not account for dead people, people that move out of the city..... that they do not clean up the registration list.  So I'm going to say the first answer it gave me of 1,000,000 and change tracks.like I wrote if you have a potential of 2,000,000 that can be registered, that doesn't mean they are registered. Even Karen Bass said they NEED illegals to maintain their population. The numbers are too far out of alignment with state wide #s to make sense.

Anyway, I have other things to tend to.

TM

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ToolMaker wrote:
Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered...

Borg, going to drag you back into the circle jerk. NYC was 3:1 ratio in1993 when Rudy won as an R.

Ok, googler says approx 1,000,000 registered voters in LA city. LA has a population of roughly 4,000,000 17 year old and younger account for approx 25% so let's bring that down to 3,000,000. Also googler says approx 39% foreign born population so some have probably been naturalized so let's call it 33%. Now we're down to 2,000,000 people that are eligible to register. I seriously doubt that all illegible people are registered. So the googler's number of registered voters somewhat tracks at 1,000,000.

Now, you add up the "votes" of the mayoral candidates 800,000 plus votes. In a state that had an average voter participation rate of 25% and LA mayoral had 80%? Even you have to question where those votes came from.

TM

borg wrote:

2,216,609 registered voters in city of LA.

Reported turnout 37%

I don't know where your numbers come from.

 

ToolMaker wrote:
I asked the googler's AI about that and it's response was that the registered voter roll is higher because it does not account for dead people...

I asked the googler's AI about that and it's response was that the registered voter roll is higher because it does not account for dead people, people that move out of the city..... that they do not clean up the registration list.  So I'm going to say the first answer it gave me of 1,000,000 and change tracks.like I wrote if you have a potential of 2,000,000 that can be registered, that doesn't mean they are registered. Even Karen Bass said they NEED illegals to maintain their population. The numbers are too far out of alignment with state wide #s to make sense.

Anyway, I have other things to tend to.

TM

It’s always fascinating to watch someone lose an argument with reality and conclude reality must be the problem……


 

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Perhaps you could construct a graph?

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This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual evidence that will disabuse the conspiracy theorist of his presupposition. 

Here is a theory. Notice i said theory and not inevitable event. 

The Trump administration is preparing  legal challenges to the California election process. Why? Because they think that if they can clean up the elections  Republicans will start winning? No. Some in that admin actually know better. What they are doing is preparing for the mid terms where the semi sane know they are in for an ass kicking. What are they preparing for? They are preparing for a coup in Jan. 2027. If they can somehow de legitimize some of the new members, they can retain the House. They picked California because it has the largest Democrat delegation. They can delegitimize the most Democrats. 

I heard that yesterday and thought it was an interesting theory. 

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borg wrote:
This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual...

This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual evidence that will disabuse the conspiracy theorist of his presupposition. 

Here is a theory. Notice i said theory and not inevitable event. 

The Trump administration is preparing  legal challenges to the California election process. Why? Because they think that if they can clean up the elections  Republicans will start winning? No. Some in that admin actually know better. What they are doing is preparing for the mid terms where the semi sane know they are in for an ass kicking. What are they preparing for? They are preparing for a coup in Jan. 2027. If they can somehow de legitimize some of the new members, they can retain the House. They picked California because it has the largest Democrat delegation. They can delegitimize the most Democrats. 

I heard that yesterday and thought it was an interesting theory. 

"This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy."

Well the googler must be in on it then

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borg wrote:
This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual...

This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual evidence that will disabuse the conspiracy theorist of his presupposition. 

Here is a theory. Notice i said theory and not inevitable event. 

The Trump administration is preparing  legal challenges to the California election process. Why? Because they think that if they can clean up the elections  Republicans will start winning? No. Some in that admin actually know better. What they are doing is preparing for the mid terms where the semi sane know they are in for an ass kicking. What are they preparing for? They are preparing for a coup in Jan. 2027. If they can somehow de legitimize some of the new members, they can retain the House. They picked California because it has the largest Democrat delegation. They can delegitimize the most Democrats. 

I heard that yesterday and thought it was an interesting theory. 

There is definitely groundwork being laid for this exact thing. Funny thing though, the elections are only rigged and fraudulent when the Republicans don't win. I miss the days when adults actually did some critical thinking and didn't blindly follow a party like it's a cult. 

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RichieW13 wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2026-06-05/how-simple-mix-up-fueled-false-conspiracies-about-la-vote-count"Justin Grimmer, a political science professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who researches and evaluates claims of election fraud...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2026-06-05/how-simple-mix-up-fueled-false-conspiracies-about-la-vote-count

"Justin Grimmer, a political science professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who researches and evaluates claims of election fraud, conducted his own data analysis of the vote updates, and came to the same conclusion.

He said there was an initial update with no Pratt votes, but a second one 41 seconds later with no votes for Bass or Raman — leading him to believe the single batch of ballots was just reported in two back-to-back updates rather than one.

“Because they came so close together, it looks like it was just a sequence of updates,” he said.

Grimmer said news outlets are “thinking about speed” and the best way to get people the most accurate information as quickly as possible, but “haven’t quite adjusted to being in this world where there’s this group of people who monitor these data feeds as if they are official government reports.”"

See? Now this is the very first thing I've yet seen that provides any kind of logical response to the question. If true, this would assuage the fears of many. Instead, all I've heard from the Democrats is a constant smattering of "don't worry' it's all good," or "Anyone asking about election integrity goes to jail for 3 years." (Recent law rushed through the legislature and signed by Gavin Newsom.) 
It would be really nice to see a transparent election. To be honest, I would not expect a Republican to win anything here except a small regional office, but it would still be nice to feel confident at least that the elections were not being stolen. Right now, it sure seems like there is a massive stranglehold on power by the one side that won. They're getting everything they want, all the time, with no worries about accountability, transparency, or concessions to the constituents on the other side.  

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borg wrote:
This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual...

This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy. Or the moon landing conspiracy. There is nothing, No kind or amount of factual evidence that will disabuse the conspiracy theorist of his presupposition. 

Here is a theory. Notice i said theory and not inevitable event. 

The Trump administration is preparing  legal challenges to the California election process. Why? Because they think that if they can clean up the elections  Republicans will start winning? No. Some in that admin actually know better. What they are doing is preparing for the mid terms where the semi sane know they are in for an ass kicking. What are they preparing for? They are preparing for a coup in Jan. 2027. If they can somehow de legitimize some of the new members, they can retain the House. They picked California because it has the largest Democrat delegation. They can delegitimize the most Democrats. 

I heard that yesterday and thought it was an interesting theory. 

ToolMaker wrote:
"This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy."Well the googler must be in on it then

"This is sounding more and more like the 2020 stolen election conspiracy."

Well the googler must be in on it then

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I honestly don't understand what you are talking about. 

For the City of Los Angeles (not Los Angeles County):

  • The city has a population of about 3.9 million people. 
  • The voting-age population (18+) is approximately 3.15 million
  • The number of registered voters is approximately 2.2 million (recent estimates range from about 2.21 to 2.22 million). 

So, depending on what you mean by "eligible voters":

MeasureApproximate Number
Voting-age population (18+)3.15 million
Registered voters2.2 million

Keep in mind that not everyone age 18+ is eligible to vote (for example, some residents are not U.S. citizens), so the true number of eligible voters is somewhat lower than the voting-age population. The most commonly reported election figure for the city is the ~2.2 million registered voters.

If you're looking for a specific election (e.g., the 2024 presidential election, the 2026 mayoral election, or a turnout percentage), I can provide those numbers as well.

 
 
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