Will you buy a suzuki, what do you want from suzuki

unfortuneately, the production bike is lacking a lot of development, and sadly multiple media and race bike builds prove it wouldnt really take much to improve the 450, shock change/setting, hc piston, efi tune and like thats it, 

New motor. Updated suspension. Please.

If they have not been testing anything new for the last one to two years, there is nothing new on the horizon. 

Does Suzuki even have a development team of engineers and riders? 

Bring back the RMX!

I don't KNOW this, but I suspect one of the recent improvements we've seen in the current generation of bikes is lighter rotating engine components. A lighter crank, piston, cam, clutch etc should allow an easier change in direction. Those are all things that would take time and money to develop, but I don't think any of then are production rule mandated. Kenny's bike might be way better in the hands of a high level pro than a stock bike with typical motor and suspension.

I still must eat my words and admit I was wrong. When Kenny went to Suzuki I said he would win races, but never compete for another championship. Clearly I was wrong.

Isn’t it more damning on the other manufacturers and bike development as a whole that an 8 year old chassis and 15 year old motor just won?

What do I want from suzi??? 

Well, they crushed it with the drz4s... the bike that I ride the most daily now days.... but on the moto side.... I'm totally down with what they sell rn... I love kickstart.... I have a lot of bikes and would rather not have yet another battery to tend to... until there is some giant real leap in performance... what they have now is awesome.. simple and affordable f yes.... 

People who buy bikes because someone won the supercross title on the factory ride that is the same color are stupid…

It's most damning on the sanctioning body that instituted a "production rule" which eliminated prototypes from racing in the U.S. 40 years ago. 

What had been a 15 year period of monumental development from the manufacturers turned into 4 year production cycles followed by "BNG" trends followed recently by "we didn't sell everything we produced...so you get it again this year!"

Bring back TRUE factory bikes!  Make the pits interesting again.

I would buy an off road model tomorrow that would be fantastic if they brought one back the other brands offer

I'm torn on this. As a still-active racer who (fortunately) buys a new bike every 2 - 3 years, I get to see and feel the micro changes they make and roll out on the production line due to racing. KTM, in particular, is very obvious with this. Annually, these are hard to feel, but over 2-3 years they are generally quite noticeable (depending on where in the generation you are). Not to mention additional things like the KTM CUO (litpro) feature, which is brilliant.

However, I do think the yearly cycle is too fast and too expensive for the factories and, by extension, the consumer. Bike pricing is outrageous these days, and Suzuki has just proven that such regular updates are unnecessary.

So moving to Factory chassis could very easily jeopardise that at the consumer level. In other motorcycle segments, bike and chassis development often lag far more than the consumer would like.

Regardless of the amazing success Roczen has/had, just the fact that Suzuki openly shows they are not really interested in being a top mx/sx manufacturer is a big negative for me... of course, it's a good bike, very fast, but the fact they haven't updated it for ages just gives me a bad feeling, I don't want to support a company that doesn't care about their product. When Apple stop developing the Iphone and only focuses on the Macbook, will you still buy the Iphone 5years later from the company who only change color on the case? (not a good comparison I know !!!)

If people didn’t, then OEMs wouldn’t race. 

https://youtu.be/Lw2jvhY38TE?si=ghGHkLj_QOLWiA3M

I've been to a handful of bike dealers in my area, ones that even sell Suzuki street bikes, and can't recall the last time that I've seen a RMZ in a showroom. 

Would I buy one in the future? Probably not. Not exactly brand loyal, currently on a Husky, but if I were to get another bike it probably would be a Yamaha or Honda

Tyler redemption arc

Buy a new RMZ and get free decals and pro circuit exhaust!

New suzuki

First things first, get rid of the BFRC shock. Just put a normal shock on their that works with everything.

Then give me a button. I don’t mind kickstart to be honest but a lot of older guys are going to want it.

Aluminum fuel tank would be sick and I’d be happy.

Fark we are back! Thanks Tyler!

Has any value returned to the RMZ line since Roczens recent title or are they still collecting dust on showroom floors and being given away at severely reduced prices? Has any public demand for them returned?

I used to own '78 RM125C and '81 RM125X prior to owning Hondas and Kaw's.  I'd like to see a modern 2 stroke RM370 as a salute to '76 RM370.  One can always dream...

Honestly, I'd never buy a Suzuki simply because they don't make a 2-stroke. 

If I was in the market for a 450F, however, I'd strongly consider a Suzuki if they made it lighter and tweaked the plastics enough that it doesn't look 8 years old. (Not much though, because that is already a good-looking bike!)

 

Something to be said for keeping a bike mostly the same and rider can stay on same setup and not waste tons of time figuring out a new bike each year. Easier on team, mechanic,suspension guy and rider.  Shows when guys get on a new bike and are never comfortable. Kenny said bike is the same he doesn’t have to make changes and feels very comfortable obviously. 

I am a Suzuki fan, I have a few vintage Suzuki's (60/70s) in the garage. My dad raced Yellow Magic in the 70's and on and off later on. My last Suzuki was a 2018 450 and I loved it too. But I am an off-road guy, and getting by without an E-start is fine off-road until it isn't. It doesn't help that I have had some major ankle and foot injuries, fused joints in both ankles and feet, sometimes kick starting hurts. 

I have a 2026 KX250x at the moment. When they do add an E-start, I'll likely be back. 

Here is some Suzuki Spam:

What I want from Suzuki;

Bring back the 1982 RM250 with the Full Floater rear and updated forks and disc brakes on both ends.  I’ll pay for it in advance.

Your only 83 pages and 18 months from catching up to the kx 2 stroke thread.

Your only getting bold new Roczen graphics and a pro circuit exhaust this year. Maybe if Kenny can win a outdoor title, you might get your wish.