Prados heat win

DonM wrote:

It says something when there are 5 riders stacked up behind him….Dumb move by Webb but I understand his frustration. 

quadzrulebro wrote:

He’s a professional racer.  He gets paid to keep people behind him.  If you don’t like passing him, get better starts 🤷🏻‍♂️On the other hand, George...

He’s a professional racer.  He gets paid to keep people behind him.  If you don’t like passing him, get better starts 🤷🏻‍♂️

On the other hand, George might want to listen to DV.  It looks way better to start outside the top 10 and work your way up to 6th than it does to holeshot get passed by 5 guys.

Tim507 wrote:

Prompt I ran through an LLM:“Many time MXGP Champion Jorge Prado moves to the US to race Supercross. Shows elite speed (top qualifier / heat...

Prompt I ran through an LLM:

“Many time MXGP Champion Jorge Prado moves to the US to race Supercross. Shows elite speed (top qualifier / heat race wins) but fades in the main. Is this just a lack of SX lap volume vs guys like Tomac/Webb who grew up on SX? Estimate the lap gap and explain the inconsistency.”

LLM answer (clean + grounded):

This isn’t a talent issue — it’s a lap bank issue.

Estimated SX lap bank:

• Tomac/Webb: ~10,000–12,000 SX laps (amateur + 250SX + 450SX)
• Prado: likely <1,000 SX laps before lining up in 450SX

➡️ That’s roughly a 9,000–11,000 lap deficit

That gap shows up in very specific ways:

1. Why he looks amazing in practice/heats

• Raw speed transfers from MXGP (throttle, balance, cornering)
• Short efforts = high intensity works
• Clean track, fewer variables

2. Why he fades in mains
SX mains aren’t about max speed — they’re about efficiency under fatigue

Veteran SX guys:

• ride ~95% pace at ~80% energy
• make instant rhythm decisions without thinking
• manage whoops automatically lap 1–20

Prado:

• can hit 100% pace
• but hasn’t automated the energy-saving patterns yet

3. Where the gap actually lives

• Whoops consistency under fatigue
• Rhythm section decision speed (line choice, adjustments)
• Main-event pacing (not burning matches early)
• Traffic timing and recovery after mistakes

4. The big missing piece
He skipped the entire U.S. 250SX apprenticeship

That class is where riders learn:

• rhythm timing
• race pacing
• mistake recovery
• SX-specific endurance

Prado is learning those lessons:
➡️ on a 450
➡️ against the best SX riders in the world
➡️ in real time

Bottom line:
He’s compressing ~8–10 years of SX pattern recognition into 1–2 seasons.

That’s why you see:

• “Prado in practice 🦁”
• “Prado in the main 😺”

It’s not effort or talent.

It’s reps.

Bow977 wrote:

He’s clearly fast enough to keep those guys behind him. They’re going to be singing a different tune outdoors 

Spoonguy wrote:

He will win mains next season.

Bandito121 wrote:

Adding Jett and Deegan to this field for next year. I’ll take that bet. 

DonM wrote:

It says something when there are 5 riders stacked up behind him….Dumb move by Webb but I understand his frustration. 

beamer wrote:

He’s a menace for the leaders, I thought Webb was really going to KO him .

crusty_xx wrote:

He's so damn inconsistent in the mains though. Whenever someone is behind him he goes 500% defensive and drops his laptime because of line choices. And...

He's so damn inconsistent in the mains though. Whenever someone is behind him he goes 500% defensive and drops his laptime because of line choices. And after someone passes him he makes a bunch of mistakes. A1 was the perfect set up. Got passed quickly and then had nobody close for pretty much the entire race. Maybe KTM should think about having him train with other riders instead of doing 1000 laps alone..

JF953 wrote:

This is exactly correct! The guy is dangerous to be around, zero situational awareness on the track. He barely ever had to come through the pack...

This is exactly correct! The guy is dangerous to be around, zero situational awareness on the track. He barely ever had to come through the pack in MXGP, and when he did, he lost. He should be practicing with groups of riders and be starting in the back of the pack. At this point, he's basically a slightly faster Vince Friese.

crusty_xx wrote:

He's so damn inconsistent in the mains though. Whenever someone is behind him he goes 500% defensive and drops his laptime because of line choices. And...

He's so damn inconsistent in the mains though. Whenever someone is behind him he goes 500% defensive and drops his laptime because of line choices. And after someone passes him he makes a bunch of mistakes. A1 was the perfect set up. Got passed quickly and then had nobody close for pretty much the entire race. Maybe KTM should think about having him train with other riders instead of doing 1000 laps alone..

JF953 wrote:

This is exactly correct! The guy is dangerous to be around, zero situational awareness on the track. He barely ever had to come through the pack...

This is exactly correct! The guy is dangerous to be around, zero situational awareness on the track. He barely ever had to come through the pack in MXGP, and when he did, he lost. He should be practicing with groups of riders and be starting in the back of the pack. At this point, he's basically a slightly faster Vince Friese.

CPR wrote:

Au contraire, his situational awareness on the track is exactly the reason he’s able to keep in front of these guys for so long and frustrate...

Au contraire, his situational awareness on the track is exactly the reason he’s able to keep in front of these guys for so long and frustrate the hell out of them. Fair play I say.