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3/6/2026 11:39am
koval_731 wrote:
Based on that I'll tell you this - Febre, Gaijser, Herlings make money, rest of them ride for pennies in heaven. The factory ride doesn't bring...

Based on that I'll tell you this - Febre, Gaijser, Herlings make money, rest of them ride for pennies in heaven. The factory ride doesn't bring that huge paycheck. Langenfelder made money last year - not much but some money. I would think Fernandez, Vialle, Coenens, De Wolf, Renaux, Vlaanderen and the B-tier riders do not make huge amounts of money. The MXGP politics is so fucked up that a bronze medalist can not get a decent ride - decent money we are not talking about. Hoff has been in the circus for almost 20 years - and he started as a RedBull factory guy and has been basically under every team manager there is right now - hasn't made millions - but still can not get a ride. 

There are plenty of guys like Hoff, Pancar and others - who can ride a dirtbike and could get better riders for just circulating in the series, but they have made it so prestigious that regular joe's do not want to waste any money for it. There is lot's and lot's of guys who could ride 15th to 35th every race, but they are better of riding Le Touquet and other races to earn a living

I agree for a big part, but actually Coldenhoff made a real decent amount of money in his career. Factory Suzuki, factory KTM, Standing construct KTM & GasGas, Wilvo Yamaha + Fantic. That was a decent career. Wilvo actually gave him such a good offer that Tim Mathys was pissed at KTM Group that they wouldn’t go for a push to keep him (he wanted to add money to keep him as well)

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3/6/2026 2:16pm
Snapper wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that Jan is testing future KTM machinery in MXGP, so his deal might not be as bad as it...

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that Jan is testing future KTM machinery in MXGP, so his deal might not be as bad as it looks from the outside.

I think that sort of KTM development role is more likely to fall in Mattia's lap...

Marcel Stauffer has been the main MX development rider I believe. Out of the spotlights in ADAC MX Masters.

 

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Jan is a supernice guy, and they are living the dream with his dad by his side. They trust each other and they wouod only sign...

Jan is a supernice guy, and they are living the dream with his dad by his side. They trust each other and they wouod only sign for a factory team cause that is the way. They have their own sponsor who are taking care of the registration fees. This guy is super friendly and 9bviously smart. He can figure out that there is no point of giving money to a smaller team just to be taken advantage of him as he is so easygoing and friendly and a good hearted person. 

They know what a headache it is to work with a smaller or just a factory satellite team and know that the team he has around him right now works best. He was the best privateer last season and will be going for another "privateer title" this year. Why break up something that has been working so good for years? (He has been doing it since 2018). Why break a system that works just to aay you are in a team? No point. Jan go thru the flames and factories, him and Gifting are the guys to cheer for this year. 

NorCal1975 wrote:
That is good and all, but I would think at his level he would want to make some money?  Is he risking his life to basically...

That is good and all, but I would think at his level he would want to make some money?  Is he risking his life to basically break even right now?  Seems crazy.  He deserves better than that based on his performance the last few years.

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Pancar is doing allright. Yes it is a small setup with his father. But Pancar has sponsors who bring in a lot of money. And he...

Pancar is doing allright. Yes it is a small setup with his father. But Pancar has sponsors who bring in a lot of money. And he has good support from KTM (don't know if anyone noticed but at MXoN Pancar was riding special materials).  

He can continue with this setup for years, no reason to all leave that for a 1 year deal with a semi-factory team where he probably doesnt make more anyway and he would be 1 injury away to again setup his own team (after just chasing away his sponsors by ending his team). 

 

Pancar is KTMs testrider, he's doing what Leok has done for years. But Leok did it on a white KTM.

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koval_731 wrote:
Since Jan isn't in any ways in a contract with Bajaj auto, I can tell you that the Ss24 gabriels team, VanVenrooy are the teams doing...

Since Jan isn't in any ways in a contract with Bajaj auto, I can tell you that the Ss24 gabriels team, VanVenrooy are the teams doing the testing and have a contract with Bajaj - Their riders should be the testriders - i know they have Zanocs and some other juniors on board, they propably test the 2029 engines and maybe the 2028 suspension, might not be so sure as when Bajaj took over the R&D also got hit moneywise. 

In 2019 #109 R.Edelbacher run a Husqvarna MX2 bije that had the 2023 engine package and 21 suspension

Books wrote:
What happend with Edelbacher? Kid could ride and had some speed on hard packs. Remember him coming out off no where running top 10 speed at...

What happend with Edelbacher? Kid could ride and had some speed on hard packs. Remember him coming out off no where running top 10 speed at Loket in one off those seasons before covid 2018/19

Yeah, that kid came out swinging in 2019 and hurt his back at the first gp in matterley on the uphill quad. After that, he had some other health related issues and got lime disease and was out for a while. I have heard he is back on the bike now, riding ADAC and austrian MX championship but I am not sure, haven't had any contact for a while

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3/7/2026 1:35am

Herlings confirming that his Honda deal is 2 years with an option for a 3rd.

 

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Ferruccio Zanchi will race in MXGP-class the rest of the season.

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4/2/2026 5:37am
DeStouwer wrote:

Ferruccio Zanchi will race in MXGP-class the rest of the season.

So no MX2 rider for Ducati? Or will Mancini move up?

4/2/2026 2:05pm
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Ferruccio Zanchi will race in MXGP-class the rest of the season.

Weird.

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DeStouwer wrote:

Ferruccio Zanchi will race in MXGP-class the rest of the season.

Weird.

I wonder if it was a late April fools joke. It makes no sense at all to extract a brand new manufacturer that wants to develop the bike and step in MXGP in the near future out of the class. Mancini is able to get podiums in EMX250 when he has his day, so to transfer him to MX2 permanently also has no use.

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4/3/2026 7:59am
DeStouwer wrote:

Ferruccio Zanchi will race in MXGP-class the rest of the season.

Weird.

DeStouwer wrote:
I wonder if it was a late April fools joke. It makes no sense at all to extract a brand new manufacturer that wants to develop...

I wonder if it was a late April fools joke. It makes no sense at all to extract a brand new manufacturer that wants to develop the bike and step in MXGP in the near future out of the class. Mancini is able to get podiums in EMX250 when he has his day, so to transfer him to MX2 permanently also has no use.

I ask myself if it has something to do with production and the stock of 250cc parts?

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4/3/2026 9:20am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2026 9:28am
Snapper wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that Jan is testing future KTM machinery in MXGP, so his deal might not be as bad as it...

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that Jan is testing future KTM machinery in MXGP, so his deal might not be as bad as it looks from the outside.

 

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I spent a few minutes chatting with Jan and his family in Loket  and Lommel - - he claims that KTM does give him a few special parts and some expense budget, but that's all.  He was hoping to get more factory support for 2026, don't know if that ever happened. 

Here is his race bike after his fantastic first moto finish at Loket, where he was P-2 for most of the race.    KTM guys will spot the bent up, well used stock wheel set, stock clamps and linkage. No skid plate for rock protection. Even the bar pad and grips are OEM 😆

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4/3/2026 9:49am
NorCal1975 wrote:
That is good and all, but I would think at his level he would want to make some money?  Is he risking his life to basically...

That is good and all, but I would think at his level he would want to make some money?  Is he risking his life to basically break even right now?  Seems crazy.  He deserves better than that based on his performance the last few years.

rym wrote:
Pancar is doing allright. Yes it is a small setup with his father. But Pancar has sponsors who bring in a lot of money. And he...

Pancar is doing allright. Yes it is a small setup with his father. But Pancar has sponsors who bring in a lot of money. And he has good support from KTM (don't know if anyone noticed but at MXoN Pancar was riding special materials).  

He can continue with this setup for years, no reason to all leave that for a 1 year deal with a semi-factory team where he probably doesnt make more anyway and he would be 1 injury away to again setup his own team (after just chasing away his sponsors by ending his team). 

 

MXMattii wrote:

Pancar is KTMs testrider, he's doing what Leok has done for years. But Leok did it on a white KTM.

I think you are wrong on that. From what I have been told, most of his budget comes from the Slovenia government. I think he gets a little backing from KTM, but not nearly what people think. Marcel Stauffer, Michael Sandner do most of the race testing. 

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4/17/2026 1:10am

Will we see Seewer behind the gate (on a Ducati) at the french GP (Lacapelle) after the five weeks break of the 2026 MXGP calendar?

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4/17/2026 1:32am

Will we see Seewer behind the gate (on a Ducati) at the french GP (Lacapelle) after the five weeks break of the 2026 MXGP calendar?

🤔

Are you asking us, or telling us... 🙂

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4/17/2026 1:51am

Will we see Seewer behind the gate (on a Ducati) at the french GP (Lacapelle) after the five weeks break of the 2026 MXGP calendar?

🤔

Snapper wrote:

Are you asking us, or telling us... 🙂

He could ‘kickstart’ his way to AMA Outdoors

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4/17/2026 3:18am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2026 4:46am

I think Seewer and Ducati should split. This is a waste of time for both parties. Especially for Ducati.

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4/17/2026 4:26am
Snapper wrote:

Are you asking us, or telling us... 🙂

Maybe both...

😁

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4/17/2026 4:42am

He’s gonna a race the AMA Nationals on a Suzuki. 

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Motofinne wrote:

I think Seewer and Ducati should split. This is a waste of time for both parties. Especially for Ducati.

Is it? I expected him to pull in last weekend out of deception when he was riding in 23rd-24th place all race long, but he didn't. So i would believe there's still some motivation left.

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He’s gonna a race the AMA Nationals on a Suzuki. 

Heard this aswell, to replace Anderson.

Add the rumours of the return of Suzuki in MXGP 2027 (although still no confirmation), this could be an interesting option for Seewer. Ride the outdoors with Suzuki in 2026, to return to MXGP in 2027 on the brand he made his breakthrough with.

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4/22/2026 3:19am

I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just ride in 25th all year and collect your money, an mx career is to short to leave money on the table.

But what is the issue with Seewer anyway? He knew he was going to develop a new bike when he signed, didnt he?

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4/22/2026 3:33am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 3:43am
rym wrote:
I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just...

I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just ride in 25th all year and collect your money, an mx career is to short to leave money on the table.

But what is the issue with Seewer anyway? He knew he was going to develop a new bike when he signed, didnt he?

This is going to be an unpopular opinion but i think he is done at top level. Put him on a factory KTM, Honda or Yamaha and the best he will do is 15-20th.

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Roan van de Moosdijk will race two AMA Nationals this summer. Redbud and Southwick

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rym wrote:
I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just...

I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just ride in 25th all year and collect your money, an mx career is to short to leave money on the table.

But what is the issue with Seewer anyway? He knew he was going to develop a new bike when he signed, didnt he?

Motofinne wrote:
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but i think he is done at top level. Put him on a factory KTM, Honda or Yamaha...

This is going to be an unpopular opinion but i think he is done at top level. Put him on a factory KTM, Honda or Yamaha and the best he will do is 15-20th.

I agree on that, maybe a few times in the top10 if things are running well. 

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rym wrote:
I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just...

I dont understand why Seewer would leave Ducati and leave a bag of money. So a construction like you suggest would explain that better. Otherwise just ride in 25th all year and collect your money, an mx career is to short to leave money on the table.

But what is the issue with Seewer anyway? He knew he was going to develop a new bike when he signed, didnt he?

Motofinne wrote:
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but i think he is done at top level. Put him on a factory KTM, Honda or Yamaha...

This is going to be an unpopular opinion but i think he is done at top level. Put him on a factory KTM, Honda or Yamaha and the best he will do is 15-20th.

I agree, but riding (riding, not racing) around 25th isn't his actual level either.

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4/22/2026 7:37am
DeStouwer wrote:

I agree, but riding (riding, not racing) around 25th isn't his actual level either.

Is it Seewer's last year, you think?

Perhaps he's 'over it', and  just 'riding the contract out', with what may have been a pretty reasonable final GP earnings couple of years.

I've not read of any injury that is holding him back, but.

He got 3rd OA at Switzerland last year with a 7th and a 3rd, the bikes far from a dog as some have said. I did think he might make a Big Effort at his home GP, this year. But,  12th and 16th got him 15th OA.

On another question - Max Nagl  - is there any indication he will be racing at  "Cute Little Teut" ( as my better half calls it, after going there a couple of times), or, other GPs ?

I'd say he might well be the fastest Triumph 450 rider currently - though, I'm only up on that ADAC round that he went 1 1 1 in. 

4/22/2026 7:45am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 7:45am

I’ve got a question, what’s the delaying the factory bike from Triumph? People are racing stock 450’s, are they behind on the evolution version? That’s actually 2 questions. 

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4/22/2026 8:22am
DeStouwer wrote:

I agree, but riding (riding, not racing) around 25th isn't his actual level either.

Bearuno wrote:
Is it Seewer's last year, you think?Perhaps he's 'over it', and  just 'riding the contract out', with what may have been a pretty reasonable final GP...

Is it Seewer's last year, you think?

Perhaps he's 'over it', and  just 'riding the contract out', with what may have been a pretty reasonable final GP earnings couple of years.

I've not read of any injury that is holding him back, but.

He got 3rd OA at Switzerland last year with a 7th and a 3rd, the bikes far from a dog as some have said. I did think he might make a Big Effort at his home GP, this year. But,  12th and 16th got him 15th OA.

On another question - Max Nagl  - is there any indication he will be racing at  "Cute Little Teut" ( as my better half calls it, after going there a couple of times), or, other GPs ?

I'd say he might well be the fastest Triumph 450 rider currently - though, I'm only up on that ADAC round that he went 1 1 1 in. 

Max Nagl shared a few times that a full GP weekend is too much for his body. The two day format is no joke for riders that are getting older.

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4/22/2026 8:30am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 10:09am
Motofinne wrote:

I think Seewer and Ducati should split. This is a waste of time for both parties. Especially for Ducati.

i was watching his results last couple GP's and it looks like he is done...no progress at all on his Ducati.

he is riding it second year now and the other teammates 10 or more positions better every race this season.

Vlaanderes was almost dead last first race last Sunday and still finished better than Seewer.

4/22/2026 10:24am
I’ve got a question, what’s the delaying the factory bike from Triumph? People are racing stock 450’s, are they behind on the evolution version? That’s actually...

I’ve got a question, what’s the delaying the factory bike from Triumph? People are racing stock 450’s, are they behind on the evolution version? That’s actually 2 questions. 

Budget.

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