Should there be betting in supercross & motocross?

To me, should there be betting available? Above my pay grade. My gut is to say yes. Should one personally bet on SX/MX? Probably not. Probably shouldn't bet on anything.

Although I myself don’t bet, I think it is another way to make racing engaging as a fan - like with fantasy. I was never watching to see who was getting 15th place until I started picking wildcards lol

How can you bet on anything where the officiating is so inconsistent and haphazard.

No. And don’t get me started on these ‘prediction market’ scams.  

It’s all just scammy scumbag capital extraction from the working class.

For those that think gambling should be legal and is all about ‘personal responsibility’ then I guess you should say the same thing about Heroin? Meth? 

And yet neither of those are advertised over and over and over with fucking inducements and big budget commercials. It’s fucking garbage societal rot and capital extraction. And now it’s in your pocket, on your phone… what the fuck…

If I want heroin it would take me a lot to figure how to get, and I’d have to get in person from a dealer, then I’d have to hide from my loved ones and law enforcement.  That’s exactly how gambling should be — but instead it big fucking adds and Weege pushing it on the broadcast.   

Bets on the AMA and who they are going to penalize would be kinda fun though. 

Other than that I don't really pay attention to betting at all and also don't really care what people waste their money on, but I feel like it's especially dumb in an individual sport like ours where riders can be sick, keep injuries secret or randomly lose wins/positions because an org like the AMA randomly makes up new rules or applies different punishments everytime by rolling the dice. 

Go for it.. I follow the sport about as closely as possible, but given how bad I am at fantasy I will not partake haha

As said, I don't care what you do with your own money, but don't advertise it and make it seem mainstream to young, uneducated viewers.

If you want to gamble, you can find a place to do it without it being shoved down everyone's throat. And while we're at it, they can also knock it off with the homo butt sex drug commercials. If you get AIDS, go see a doctor, he'll find you a pill...

Relating gambling to life saving medication is just weird weird weird man.  Way to turn the legitimate societal problem of the gambling industrial complex and middle class capital extraction into your own weird 1960s homophobia.

TBH. I think all medication advertisements should be banned and your medical information and options should be discussed with either your private doctor or if that’s not available to you a single payer bill billed doctor.  But this is me thinking about a societal level and your just imagining pee pee going into man butt and going oh no no no no I have to stop imagining that… ban all ads that make me imagine that becuase as soon as lgbtqi+ people are visible all I can imagine is pee pee go in man butt.  It sounds like either a you problem, or a you opportunity to discover your true self.  

No, I don't care what you do with your "Pee-Pee", I just think it's inappropriate to advertise it during a prime time, family TV program. Why did they make them stop advertising cigarettes, or ban them from actually drinking a beer during an ad? Oh, because it could be detrimental to your health? But yeah, go ahead and promote whatever progressive agenda you have, health and procreation be damned.

I don't personally bet or do anything beyond a fantasy league with buddies. But I do think these days, betting, fantasy etc is the norm for most sports and it does "grow the sport" and generate interest. So I do think it's a good think, in that way. That being said, I think the sport needs to improve, when it comes to transparency with injuries and consistency with rules etc. But that's my opinion.

 Betting has ruined Thanksgiving and the NFL.  How?  The Fam used to sit around and watch football, Now the Fam sits around and watches their phone to see how their fantasy football team is doing.  Then they are making bets on everything else going on during that game.  My family has turned into a bunch of degenerate gamblers! LOL. With SX/MX, I don't need to bet on who leads lap 6 or anything else during the race. Of course, my bet on if a Moster girl gets run over almost has happened!

What makes it so inappropriate during family gatherings is the drug is not for sick people...

I could care less, if people bet or shoot themselves with heroin. 

Bloody Hell, Australia is ranked as the Highest Gambling Nation, per capita, In The World.

It's not something to be proud of. 

We don't need more ways to throw our money away. And the Gambling related ads on TV and Online, are all pervasive.

I don't Gamble at all - not even Lotteries, though I seem to always get a bundle of Lottery Tickets / Scratchies come my Birthday or Chrissy.

And cripes, the (very) rare times I go to the Leagues club over the river, I'm stunned by the amount of (absolute) Zombies playing the Hundreds   of Pokies that are there.

  **** I just checked - 782 at the last count  in the Club - My State has  77,000 to 78,000 of the bloody things - Faaaark! ***

There shouldnt be betting at all, doenst matter which sport

I enjoy playing Pulp Fantasy, Vital Fantasy and RMATV Fantasy each week. I look forward to making my picks and editing them throughout the week. It’s a fun way to keep moto interesting to me midweek. 

I also enjoy making some picks on Underdog. It used to be a lot more fun when you could pick better or worse (now the only option is “better”). With my interest in the other games I already play I can make some pretty decent predictions based on what is available. I’m way ahead money wise on Underdog, but that doesn’t make me want to bet my house or anything. Underdog actually has $100 limit on each rider so it can’t get too out of control.

I see them all as games that are based on the sport that I love and can’t help but think about all the time. Just like the SMX Muse immaculate grid that I recently picked up on. I don’t think that people who can be responsible with something should lose the option to play because of degenerate morons who can’t make good decisions for themselves. 

Betting has ruined sports

It’s not good. There’s a reason why billion dollar companies like ESPN are lobbying for it so hard right now. It’s also not good for the riders. We don’t need people sending death threats to Chase Sexton because he made some loser lose a six leg parlay by not tucking the front on the first six laps of the main. 

Boohooo

Should they sell beer at the races?! It’s so bad what alcohol does to families. 😉

Why people are so fixated on commercials for HIV meds rather than the one for an at home injection that is clearly targeted towards kids or the one for an eyeball injection is beyond me. I’m with you though, it should 100% be illegal to advertise any pharmaceuticals to the public.

Agree. It is illegal in most every other country (if not all). I think those commercials paired with people self diagnosing themselves online is a real problem. Anytime my doctor suggests taking a prescription I make an attempt to remedy it with good old fashioned diet and exercise first.

Sports betting, at least in Australia, is for addicts and very low IQ people*. It’s basically donating money to corporations. YOU CANNOT WIN.
They set the bet, set the odds (All in their favour), then, if you still manage to win more than you lose, they ban you. (Usually by restricting your bet to tiny amounts) It’s all upfront and well known - just not well publicised - obviously.

*Look at the advertising - absolutely embarrassing, and aimed at the very bottom of society.

Not with the AMA making the calls. 

How can you confidently bet on a sport where the riders do not/ are not required to disclose injury? People can do whatever they want with their own money. SX/MX has got to have some of the worst odds in sports betting - this current SX season as a prime example. 

It’s medication, not the promotion of a lifestyle that you in particular seem to be incredibly offended by. By your logic, any remedy or help or support from the adverse effects of any activity should not be advertised?

Again I don’t think pharmaceuticals should be advertised at all, but from someone who doesn’t care what you do with your peepeee it’s a pretty specific call to make

I’ve never been a gambler but I can’t stand all the gambling in sports.  I can’t imagine if I was struggling with gambling addiction, I’d probably go insane seeing all the odds.  I just never found gambling to be fun outside of small parlays or one-offs in person while in Vegas.  I also worked in Vegas as a door man for half a decade, I’ve seen people come to Vegas and literally get stuck there.  They would come talk to me to ease their nerves while they have $10,000 on March Madness or whatever.  I’ve seen people arrive so healthy and they deteriorate from the stress, it’s actually crazy.  

uncledaddy69 : "or the one for an eyeball injection is beyond me"

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooerrrr !!!!!!!

Is it an 'do it at home Eyeball injection' ?

Cripes, I had a bit of a shock at US ads for medications etc when I first went there in the 80s, and subsequently in the next 4 decades, but I haven't come across that one .

No effing way would I do that, or let someone at home do that to me . Cripes, when they dilate my eyeballs for sight checks, I damned near Demand Full Anesthesia  - I'm a Fraidy Bear.

The thought of that reminds me of the bloody Salvador Dali video where an eye ball is slashed with a razor ........... even though, I think they cut ( pun!) away from the actual deed - at least I think so, because I always turn away from that - as I wrote, I Iz A Fraidy Bear!

Gambling on sports has ruined alot of sports. I have been shown by big time gamblers how the out come of the game over 70% of the time is effected by the spread and the payouts. Fantasy football ruined the NFL for me back around 07/08 when the rules changed to help offense score and put the scores of both teams above 30 points. I grew up watching the Steel curtain, Purple people eaters, Orange crush, Doomsday defense I want to watch a hard hitting defense dominated game of 6 to 3 or 9 to 6. So I quit watching the NFL. When I see gambling start effecting race out comes I will probably quit watching SX/MX. Already over having the gambling shoved down my throat during the broadcast. Hell the internet has ruined alot of what I used to enjoy about life. Yes it brings pleasures like Vital, but when other people can not put there phones down or leave the internet to go do things it makes me sad.