That Honda of Reeds......not right.

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:50pm
Just didn't look right last night. I just re-watched the entire race again this morning , and in his qualifier and main.....that thing did not look setup correctly at all.

I'm sure he'll get the bike working good sooner or later ( hopefully sooner )

But from what I saw of Trey and josh's bikes.....they looked dialed in!

Difference between factory and non-factory I think was pretty evident.

Just my $.02 here.....what did you guys think?

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raddad 1/9/2011 2:51pm
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i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike problems? Just a bad start, thats all IMO
sbarrington314 1/9/2011 2:53pm
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yea. bad start. 5th place isnt that bad with a bad start and ALOT of fast guys this year. pretty good actually.
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Rizzo 1/9/2011 2:55pm
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Are you the same expert that called out KC's Yamaha? If so, DAMN, you sure gort skills from that computer screen.
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captmoto 1/9/2011 2:57pm
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First privateer bike. He had to work for it.

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apparently around here if you question what someones bike looks like setup wise on the track your an idiot. Wink
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RaceFace 1/9/2011 3:08pm
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raddad wrote:
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike...
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike problems? Just a bad start, thats all IMO
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



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jeffro503 1/9/2011 3:13pm
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Guys.....don't get me wrong....i think he rode awesome! I was just noticing in a few areas where on landings , it was having an issue with bucking him a little. He looked like he was fighting the bike a little more than what i'm used to seeing him do ( not talking about least year.....but previous years ).

Hard to put my finger on it.....just looked like he was struggling a little with some setup.

I know he'll get the bike dialed in.....just looked like the factory Hondas were a little more dialed in...."to me" anyways.
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jeffro503 1/9/2011 3:14pm
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Rizzo wrote:
Are you the same expert that called out KC's Yamaha? If so, DAMN, you sure gort skills from that computer screen.
Ummm??........that wasn't me dude. I'm not sure what you are even talking about.

explain please? I'm curious.
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raddad wrote:
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike...
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike problems? Just a bad start, thats all IMO
RaceFace wrote:
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James...
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



That's because in real life he is 2 seconds slower then those guys, plain and simple. He will get top 5 this entire series.
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raddad 1/9/2011 3:18pm
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raddad wrote:
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike...
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike problems? Just a bad start, thats all IMO
RaceFace wrote:
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James...
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



Its easy to play the blame game but i for one am sick of it (AKA bubba fans). Doesn't anyone ever think that sometimes someone is simply not as fast as someone else? Why not put a post up saying how RD was hurt earlier in the day so that is why he sucked so bad and got a lowly second..

Yep i agree raceface, he was not on pace of the top guys but last year was the same in practice and qualifiers, off pace..Maybe It was simply because he was not as fast as the others! Anyway i do realize that a bike problem or injury can effect a riders performance but all to often it is used to explain away a less than perfect performance when it was, well, less than perfect..
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YamaLink 1/9/2011 3:22pm
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When Reed figures out how to make the Honda act like his Suzuki it's gonna be a painfest for the competition. Well, all but two of them.
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jeffro503 1/9/2011 3:24pm
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I think he is every bit as fast as the top 4 guys last night ( maybe excluding James ) BUT.....James also has a tendency of making small little mistakes here in there , where Reed makes that ground back up. ( sometimes ).

From what I saw .....he has more speed than what we saw last night.....I just think that bike wasn't agreeing 100% with him last night.

I dunno..........just something I noticed last night and this morning.
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toroP 1/9/2011 3:25pm
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RaceFace wrote:
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James...
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



His fast lap was 2 sec. off JS, 1.2 sec off of RD and RV.
Reed's average lap time was 1.2 sec off of RV and JS and .9 sec. off RD.
TC was a tenth off of RD.
keeptwostrokesalive 1/9/2011 3:26pm
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What if its not the bike but chad reed. Have you ever thought that maybe reed is really just 2 seconds slower than every one else because hes not fast any more.
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jeffro503 1/9/2011 3:28pm
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keeptwostrokesalive wrote:
What if its not the bike but chad reed. Have you ever thought that maybe reed is really just 2 seconds slower than every one else...
What if its not the bike but chad reed. Have you ever thought that maybe reed is really just 2 seconds slower than every one else because hes not fast any more.
NO.....i don't think that. you don't mysteriously just lose speed like that. i think it's bike setup.
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toroP 1/9/2011 3:29pm
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Do you bozos ever look at stats, or just repeat what the other bozos type?
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Towelie 1/9/2011 3:30pm
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riding is different than racing, I am sure Reeds team is going to have to a learning curve while they figure out the setup.
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RaceFace 1/9/2011 3:45pm
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raddad wrote:
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike...
i thought he and the bike looked great! Super fast in the turns and no problem in the whoops. Where did you see him having bike problems? Just a bad start, thats all IMO
RaceFace wrote:
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James...
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



raddad wrote:
Its easy to play the blame game but i for one am sick of it (AKA bubba fans). Doesn't anyone ever think that sometimes someone is...
Its easy to play the blame game but i for one am sick of it (AKA bubba fans). Doesn't anyone ever think that sometimes someone is simply not as fast as someone else? Why not put a post up saying how RD was hurt earlier in the day so that is why he sucked so bad and got a lowly second..

Yep i agree raceface, he was not on pace of the top guys but last year was the same in practice and qualifiers, off pace..Maybe It was simply because he was not as fast as the others! Anyway i do realize that a bike problem or injury can effect a riders performance but all to often it is used to explain away a less than perfect performance when it was, well, less than perfect..
That was my point to him looking good out there. He didn't look good to me, but I'm not blaming the bike at all. I picked him to be where he was last night....bringing up the tail end of the top 5 and well behind at that. He came in unprepared in 2010 and wanted to blame the Kawasaki. All we've heard is how good his setup is coming in this year, so I don't want to hear any excuses, from him or from fans. I think his bike is just fine.

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MX_Andrew83 1/9/2011 3:48pm
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RaceFace wrote:
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James...
Not for nothing, his fastest lap was around 2 seconds slower than the top 4 guys. His fastest lap came on lap 11, same as James. Unfortunately, that is a big gap.



raddad wrote:
Its easy to play the blame game but i for one am sick of it (AKA bubba fans). Doesn't anyone ever think that sometimes someone is...
Its easy to play the blame game but i for one am sick of it (AKA bubba fans). Doesn't anyone ever think that sometimes someone is simply not as fast as someone else? Why not put a post up saying how RD was hurt earlier in the day so that is why he sucked so bad and got a lowly second..

Yep i agree raceface, he was not on pace of the top guys but last year was the same in practice and qualifiers, off pace..Maybe It was simply because he was not as fast as the others! Anyway i do realize that a bike problem or injury can effect a riders performance but all to often it is used to explain away a less than perfect performance when it was, well, less than perfect..
RaceFace wrote:
That was my point to him looking good out there. He didn't look good to me, but I'm not blaming the bike at all. I picked...
That was my point to him looking good out there. He didn't look good to me, but I'm not blaming the bike at all. I picked him to be where he was last night....bringing up the tail end of the top 5 and well behind at that. He came in unprepared in 2010 and wanted to blame the Kawasaki. All we've heard is how good his setup is coming in this year, so I don't want to hear any excuses, from him or from fans. I think his bike is just fine.
I think his bike setup is fine also, he has a good career, but I don't see him being a title threat this year at all! It's only the first race of the season, but the way the others were riding I think it is a sign of things to come.
TheWeapon 1/9/2011 3:54pm
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Reed was only 0.3 or so off Stewart in 1st practice.....
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toroP 1/9/2011 3:56pm
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I think his bike setup is fine also, he has a good career, but I don't see him being a title threat this year at all...
I think his bike setup is fine also, he has a good career, but I don't see him being a title threat this year at all! It's only the first race of the season, but the way the others were riding I think it is a sign of things to come.
Yes. Reed is 9 points out 1st. His average lap time was less than a sec. off of RD. Reed has no chance.Blink
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FreshTopEnd 1/9/2011 4:01pm
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Reed has had way worse A1's in the past than last night.
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MX_Andrew83 1/9/2011 4:03pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
I think his bike setup is fine also, he has a good career, but I don't see him being a title threat this year at all...
I think his bike setup is fine also, he has a good career, but I don't see him being a title threat this year at all! It's only the first race of the season, but the way the others were riding I think it is a sign of things to come.
toroP wrote:
Yes. Reed is 9 points out 1st. His average lap time was less than a sec. off of RD. Reed has no chance.Blink
I guess your television wasn't working during last outdoor season, Epstien Bar? The dude was getting his but kicked, I guess herpes is as good a reason as any to not own up to getting beat by the rookie. It's OK for your guy not to win, there is always next week/year.
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jeffro503 1/9/2011 4:03pm
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Stats mean something.....but NOT everything dude! there are so many different variables that can happen in a race , it's unreal!

You stat junkies crack me up.....did you even watch the fucking race?

I'll say it again...."TO ME " his bike didn't look like it was riding the way he wanted it to.

I also think he'll get it figured out and start running the pace of the front 4 guys..........exactly where he should be.

Amazing how people just take a rider like Reed , who battled RC and Stewart over quite a few years....and then they throw him under the bus , saying he is all washed up.

amazing.
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j100 1/9/2011 4:04pm
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I spoke to Dave for a while today. He said they knew they had a few things to work on, but overall they were really happy as they should be.

I was impressed with the debut of 22.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Just didn't look right last night. I just re-watched the entire race again this morning , and in his qualifier and main.....that thing did not look...
Just didn't look right last night. I just re-watched the entire race again this morning , and in his qualifier and main.....that thing did not look setup correctly at all.

I'm sure he'll get the bike working good sooner or later ( hopefully sooner )

But from what I saw of Trey and josh's bikes.....they looked dialed in!

Difference between factory and non-factory I think was pretty evident.

Just my $.02 here.....what did you guys think?

He has Lars Lindstrom and all his factory knowledge. He has Showa as a sponsor. He has a factory ignition cover which makes you wonder what else Honda has chipped in. Could it be possible that he started in a similar position to Stewart and finished in a similar position which to me seems like a big success?

I think we have to reset our clocks a bit since RV & Dungey are going fast! Stewart wont be able to get poor starts and still win. Reed will be fine. His times are good. He will get it figured out!
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FASTEDDY438 1/9/2011 4:21pm
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I don't know how anyone saw enough of Reed out of last nights footage to see anything? I know that RV had a bunch of clear track laps and looked really smooth out front but while working by IT9 he made some mistakes and you could say the bike wasn't working. Riding out of the fast line in traffic to pass is the culprit!
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j100 wrote:
I spoke to Dave for a while today. He said they knew they had a few things to work on, but overall they were really happy...
I spoke to Dave for a while today. He said they knew they had a few things to work on, but overall they were really happy as they should be.

I was impressed with the debut of 22.
I agree with this.

First real race on a new machine, and the end result is something to build on for sure. I see him winning races this season.
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numba1 fan 1/9/2011 4:32pm
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looked alot better to me then when he was on kawi's! He'll be fine, just needed a better start.

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