Chase Sexton back?

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3/17/2026 10:24am
MX Guy wrote:
I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected...

I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected to win titles, let alone races. You think about Canard at Honda, he’s won multiple races and was a consistent podium threat on a 450. How is Broc supposed to know what it takes from the bike to win as someone who was only on the podium one time? I’m just not sure the logic makes sense to me. It really hasn’t seemed to make a positive difference on the outside. 

By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite...

By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite championship contender speed to be able to feel positive or negative changes made on a bike. 

Motofinne wrote:
Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in...

Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in some cases he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

Don't forget about how a few ft-lb of torque on the engine hangers changes the feel/performance of the chassis.  Lol.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Exactly! That's why they got RV back, to show Chase how to ride the damn bike correctly since its changed 2% since RV last rode one...

Exactly! That's why they got RV back, to show Chase how to ride the damn bike correctly since its changed 2% since RV last rode one 11 years ago.

DonM wrote:

Way off base here bud…..RV has zero to do with the race team and is NOT doing any testing for Chase….

HonDawg17 wrote:

Oh really? You've been to the test track to confirm?

Yes really….he is their brand ambassador that works for the MARKETING DEPT….not for the RACE DEPT….he not a test rider he is not doing any testing for the race dept…Do you really thing that RV as a test rider can solve Chase’s issues…do you think that testing by committee is the way to go…Chases problems are because the two guys leading the team are stuck in 2010 and corporate hags very much like what happened at Yam before they hired Star to run their 450 program…

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So Thursday to find out if Chase is back?

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3/17/2026 11:04am
kxking wrote:

So Thursday to find out if Chase is back?

The all knowing Walty Wanders says he is out for the season.😀

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3/17/2026 11:11am
Zacka 161 wrote:

Chiz has been a huge help to Roczen.  

The only thing Chiz has won is our hearts 

TheMilkman wrote:
Since this thread is about test riders now, I’ll throw in my hot opinion. I think Kawi picked up Chiz as their test guy on the...

Since this thread is about test riders now, I’ll throw in my hot opinion. I think Kawi picked up Chiz as their test guy on the East coast solely to take the resource away from Suzuki. They knew he would basically help Suzuki for free so they could throw a little money at him and in turn take him away from helping the opposition. 

AMetts wrote:
Not sure if I heard it on Pulp or what but there was some bad feelings between him and Suzuki when he left so it sounds...

Not sure if I heard it on Pulp or what but there was some bad feelings between him and Suzuki when he left so it sounds like your theory is probably correct. 

I think the bad feelings were probably budget related. Very likely thought he could get paid as a test rider when he stopped racing (rightfully so as he had already been a good tester for them) and the funds just weren’t there for him. Maybe he was verbally promised something? I don’t know, purely speculation. Either way I think Kawi brought him on just so that he couldn’t be a resource for Suzuki to string along in hopes of a future job. 

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GPrider wrote:
what the hell, I look at this thread to see if anyone knows if hes racing or not and its just the same old shit? Isn't...

what the hell, I look at this thread to see if anyone knows if hes racing or not and its just the same old shit? Isn't there other threads that discuss this crap? No moderators here?

Clearly no one knows yet, so is it ok if we talk about what may be going on, in relation to him? Whether these other posts were here or not, you still wouldn't have the answer you are looking for lol.

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3/17/2026 11:17am Edited Date/Time 3/17/2026 11:18am

Kawi has their NINE time SX and outdoor champion working in the "marketing" dept and you don't think the race team may ask him a few set up questions...lol. OK. You would have to be fkng retarded not to.

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MOTO13 wrote:
Kawi has their NINE time SX and outdoor champion working in the "marketing" dept and you don't think the race team may ask him a few...

Kawi has their NINE time SX and outdoor champion working in the "marketing" dept and you don't think the race team may ask him a few set up questions...lol. OK. You would have to be fkng retarded not to.

Big diff between asking him a question and having him grind out 40 plus hour work weeks again sitting in traffic 10-20 hours a week. I’m sure his bike is just perfect for him out riding with the kids and some friends. 

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3/17/2026 11:49am Edited Date/Time 3/17/2026 12:04pm
GPrider wrote:
what the hell, I look at this thread to see if anyone knows if hes racing or not and its just the same old shit? Isn't...

what the hell, I look at this thread to see if anyone knows if hes racing or not and its just the same old shit? Isn't there other threads that discuss this crap? No moderators here?

Well he doesn’t have a Swiss flag icon on Pulp Fantasy. So that’s SOMETHING. Typically riders out with injury have a little icon to let you know they’re injured and not racing.

Edit to add: this isn’t hard evidence he is racing. For instance JT still had Sexton selected on his team for Daytona even after it was announced he was out up until 5 min before the deadline. 😂 

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MOTO13 wrote:
Kawi has their NINE time SX and outdoor champion working in the "marketing" dept and you don't think the race team may ask him a few...

Kawi has their NINE time SX and outdoor champion working in the "marketing" dept and you don't think the race team may ask him a few set up questions...lol. OK. You would have to be fkng retarded not to.

Man, if I was RV, I'd stay as far as I could from the SSD (Sexton Settings Department).

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By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite...

By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite championship contender speed to be able to feel positive or negative changes made on a bike. 

Motofinne wrote:
Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in...

Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in some cases he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

MotoDad32 wrote:

Don't forget about how a few ft-lb of torque on the engine hangers changes the feel/performance of the chassis.  Lol.

I read in a recent thread on this (here maybe? can't remember) that K-Dubs mechanic tried to go to a 2.5mm front tube from the 2.0mm that K-Dub preferred just to see if he'd even notice. It took K-Dub less than 2 laps to pull in and ask if there was a heavier tube up front. Mechanic said that after that he never doubted Kevin's word on setup again. 

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So since Webb is #1 RV can run #2 this weekend right? Or does he run 207 or 615?

I think he runs to the fridge, grabs a beer., runs back to the couch, and watches the races. 😄

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These multiplying Sexton threads are looking a little Deegan-esque

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MX Guy wrote:
I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected...

I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected to win titles, let alone races. You think about Canard at Honda, he’s won multiple races and was a consistent podium threat on a 450. How is Broc supposed to know what it takes from the bike to win as someone who was only on the podium one time? I’m just not sure the logic makes sense to me. It really hasn’t seemed to make a positive difference on the outside. 

themx11 wrote:

Best coaches ain’t always the best players and vice versa 

Zacka 161 wrote:

Chiz has been a huge help to Roczen.  

The only thing Chiz has won is our hearts 

I wanted to hit the like button but it was at 11 & couldn’t change it 

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3/17/2026 2:28pm
Motofinne wrote:
Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in...

Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in some cases he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

MotoDad32 wrote:

Don't forget about how a few ft-lb of torque on the engine hangers changes the feel/performance of the chassis.  Lol.

I read in a recent thread on this (here maybe? can't remember) that K-Dubs mechanic tried to go to a 2.5mm front tube from the 2.0mm...

I read in a recent thread on this (here maybe? can't remember) that K-Dubs mechanic tried to go to a 2.5mm front tube from the 2.0mm that K-Dub preferred just to see if he'd even notice. It took K-Dub less than 2 laps to pull in and ask if there was a heavier tube up front. Mechanic said that after that he never doubted Kevin's word on setup again. 

I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an aluminum skid plate again.


Also Dave Osterman told a story of Reed testing for 2012 at Castillo ranch and asking for slightly wider fork lugs, possibly as little as 1mm wider (can’t remember exact measurement), getting them made and thrown on the bike and Chad instantly being quicker with them. 

Also heard stories of Mike Alessi basically wanting the exact opposite of what everyone else wanted on a bike. Enough to where mechanics had to ask if he was sure multiple times. Worked for him, but no one else could ride the bike the way Mikey set it up. 

Lamson could easily notice 1-2 clicks in SX within half a lap. Meanwhile MC rode whatever they put on the bike and apparently any changes that were made MC didn’t notice. Stories I’ve heard from a Honda mechanic. 

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3/17/2026 3:03pm

Lewis, Kellen and Steve were just talking on the LVK podcast about Sexton being back this weekend like it was an absolute. I fully expect him to be there this weekend.

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Sully wrote:
So, because I was off on the number of SX podiums he has, I guess his multiple 450 outdoor podiums don't count, and he sucks and...

So, because I was off on the number of SX podiums he has, I guess his multiple 450 outdoor podiums don't count, and he sucks and isn't qualified to test. Good to know...

MX Guy wrote:
If you're gonna make an argument, at least get your facts straight. It's not my fault you were incorrect. Also, I never said he sucks, so...

If you're gonna make an argument, at least get your facts straight. It's not my fault you were incorrect. Also, I never said he sucks, so you're 0/2. Not your best day, Sully. 

ando wrote:
You did heavily imply that someone with Tickle’s credentials isn’t suitable to be a factory test rider for Chase.  You then mentioned Trey Canard at Honda...

You did heavily imply that someone with Tickle’s credentials isn’t suitable to be a factory test rider for Chase.  You then mentioned Trey Canard at Honda - do you think he’s good enough to be a test rider for Jett?

I mean trey can test and show Jett stuff on how to crash....

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an...

I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an aluminum skid plate again.


Also Dave Osterman told a story of Reed testing for 2012 at Castillo ranch and asking for slightly wider fork lugs, possibly as little as 1mm wider (can’t remember exact measurement), getting them made and thrown on the bike and Chad instantly being quicker with them. 

Also heard stories of Mike Alessi basically wanting the exact opposite of what everyone else wanted on a bike. Enough to where mechanics had to ask if he was sure multiple times. Worked for him, but no one else could ride the bike the way Mikey set it up. 

Lamson could easily notice 1-2 clicks in SX within half a lap. Meanwhile MC rode whatever they put on the bike and apparently any changes that were made MC didn’t notice. Stories I’ve heard from a Honda mechanic. 

Always blows me away that MC rode the Suzuki for so long without the slide opening all the way in the carburetor. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Always blows me away that MC rode the Suzuki for so long without the slide opening all the way in the carburetor. 

He probably accepted it because he thought that the Suzuki was just that slow.  Seriously.   

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By the way, I could be wrong, but i wonder if Kawi and Sexton are having a stand off where he basically refuses to race until he gets what he wants on the bike.   I feel like the same thing happened with Prado where Jorge could have anything he wanted as long as it came from the box of parts they offered.  This steer with the rear setup is outdated.   These guys have to be able to carve corners like BMX racers.  You have to have a planned front wheel to do that.  

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JB 19 wrote:
By the way, I could be wrong, but i wonder if Kawi and Sexton are having a stand off where he basically refuses to race until...

By the way, I could be wrong, but i wonder if Kawi and Sexton are having a stand off where he basically refuses to race until he gets what he wants on the bike.   I feel like the same thing happened with Prado where Jorge could have anything he wanted as long as it came from the box of parts they offered.  This steer with the rear setup is outdated.   These guys have to be able to carve corners like BMX racers.  You have to have a planned front wheel to do that.  

No lol

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3/17/2026 7:59pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an...

I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an aluminum skid plate again.


Also Dave Osterman told a story of Reed testing for 2012 at Castillo ranch and asking for slightly wider fork lugs, possibly as little as 1mm wider (can’t remember exact measurement), getting them made and thrown on the bike and Chad instantly being quicker with them. 

Also heard stories of Mike Alessi basically wanting the exact opposite of what everyone else wanted on a bike. Enough to where mechanics had to ask if he was sure multiple times. Worked for him, but no one else could ride the bike the way Mikey set it up. 

Lamson could easily notice 1-2 clicks in SX within half a lap. Meanwhile MC rode whatever they put on the bike and apparently any changes that were made MC didn’t notice. Stories I’ve heard from a Honda mechanic. 

Rickyisms wrote:

Always blows me away that MC rode the Suzuki for so long without the slide opening all the way in the carburetor. 

And wasn’t far off from winning the title like that and a flat tire. 

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By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite...

By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite championship contender speed to be able to feel positive or negative changes made on a bike. 

Motofinne wrote:
Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in...

Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in some cases he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.Some people are amazing testers and articulate...

Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.

Some people are amazing testers and articulate the changes in a way the team can understand which is an invaluable skill.  The guys building the suspension and components likely haven’t won races either.  That doesn’t mean they aren’t the best person for the job.


There’s a reason coaches and trainers at the highest level of every sport aren’t often (see hardly ever) past champions of their respective sport.

Wasn't Keefer's whole theory of torquing bolts inaccurately on your bike to achieve certain flex characteristics completely debunked by several engineer types on this very forum? I am not saying he doesn't know how certain bikes perform well and where they don't, but he is no technician or engineer. Some of the dudes off color comments and innuendo on Pulp are cringe worthy too, he's like 50 and talking about women like a 13-year-old.

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Well he just posted that he can still ride...  I think that means we'll see him this weekend.

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Press516 wrote:
Well he just posted that he can still ride...  I think that means we'll see him this weekend.

Well he just posted that he can still ride...  I think that means we'll see him this weekend.

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Or just got back on the bike and will need a few weeks to get up to speed….

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3/18/2026 11:57am
MotoDad32 wrote:

Don't forget about how a few ft-lb of torque on the engine hangers changes the feel/performance of the chassis.  Lol.

I read in a recent thread on this (here maybe? can't remember) that K-Dubs mechanic tried to go to a 2.5mm front tube from the 2.0mm...

I read in a recent thread on this (here maybe? can't remember) that K-Dubs mechanic tried to go to a 2.5mm front tube from the 2.0mm that K-Dub preferred just to see if he'd even notice. It took K-Dub less than 2 laps to pull in and ask if there was a heavier tube up front. Mechanic said that after that he never doubted Kevin's word on setup again. 

mattyhamz2 wrote:
I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an...

I believe there was also a story about an aluminum skid plate changing enough for KDub to point it out and requesting to never use an aluminum skid plate again.


Also Dave Osterman told a story of Reed testing for 2012 at Castillo ranch and asking for slightly wider fork lugs, possibly as little as 1mm wider (can’t remember exact measurement), getting them made and thrown on the bike and Chad instantly being quicker with them. 

Also heard stories of Mike Alessi basically wanting the exact opposite of what everyone else wanted on a bike. Enough to where mechanics had to ask if he was sure multiple times. Worked for him, but no one else could ride the bike the way Mikey set it up. 

Lamson could easily notice 1-2 clicks in SX within half a lap. Meanwhile MC rode whatever they put on the bike and apparently any changes that were made MC didn’t notice. Stories I’ve heard from a Honda mechanic. 

I would think so. I can feel those big aluminum skid plates and believe it or not, I'm no KW.

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Press516 wrote:
Well he just posted that he can still ride...  I think that means we'll see him this weekend.

Well he just posted that he can still ride...  I think that means we'll see him this weekend.

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This type of thing is part of the problem.  He’s been out for several rounds and all we get is a couple of cryptic social media posts.  It’s less than 3 days from race day and still nothing remotely concrete about whether he’s riding or not.

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MX Guy wrote:
I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected...

I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected to win titles, let alone races. You think about Canard at Honda, he’s won multiple races and was a consistent podium threat on a 450. How is Broc supposed to know what it takes from the bike to win as someone who was only on the podium one time? I’m just not sure the logic makes sense to me. It really hasn’t seemed to make a positive difference on the outside. 

themx11 wrote:

Best coaches ain’t always the best players and vice versa 

Zacka 161 wrote:

Chiz has been a huge help to Roczen.  

The only thing Chiz has won is our hearts 

And Eli and now he’s working on Chase bike. Btw he’s out this weekend. 

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Motofinne wrote:
Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in...

Keefer thinks putting shims between the triple clamp bolt and the clamp surface makes a difference in feel and performance. I would absolutely say that in some cases he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.Some people are amazing testers and articulate...

Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.

Some people are amazing testers and articulate the changes in a way the team can understand which is an invaluable skill.  The guys building the suspension and components likely haven’t won races either.  That doesn’t mean they aren’t the best person for the job.


There’s a reason coaches and trainers at the highest level of every sport aren’t often (see hardly ever) past champions of their respective sport.

Spoonguy wrote:
Wasn't Keefer's whole theory of torquing bolts inaccurately on your bike to achieve certain flex characteristics completely debunked by several engineer types on this very forum...

Wasn't Keefer's whole theory of torquing bolts inaccurately on your bike to achieve certain flex characteristics completely debunked by several engineer types on this very forum? I am not saying he doesn't know how certain bikes perform well and where they don't, but he is no technician or engineer. Some of the dudes off color comments and innuendo on Pulp are cringe worthy too, he's like 50 and talking about women like a 13-year-old.

We’ve been waiting for the Billy @ Luxon vs Keefer test video for years. Sadly it doesn’t seem like it will ever happen. 

I don’t know what to believe. If keefer is doing some of these tests blind then it gives it more credibility. If he knows what’s being changed it could be placebo. 

engineers have commented the torque specs won’t affect anything when changing by a few pounds either direction, and they have some data to back it up, but maybe they aren’t looking for the right thing, or cant’t measure it properly?

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Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.Some people are amazing testers and articulate...

Keefer knows what he’s talking about and could explain it to a 5 years old so…gotta disagree with ya there.

Some people are amazing testers and articulate the changes in a way the team can understand which is an invaluable skill.  The guys building the suspension and components likely haven’t won races either.  That doesn’t mean they aren’t the best person for the job.


There’s a reason coaches and trainers at the highest level of every sport aren’t often (see hardly ever) past champions of their respective sport.

Spoonguy wrote:
Wasn't Keefer's whole theory of torquing bolts inaccurately on your bike to achieve certain flex characteristics completely debunked by several engineer types on this very forum...

Wasn't Keefer's whole theory of torquing bolts inaccurately on your bike to achieve certain flex characteristics completely debunked by several engineer types on this very forum? I am not saying he doesn't know how certain bikes perform well and where they don't, but he is no technician or engineer. Some of the dudes off color comments and innuendo on Pulp are cringe worthy too, he's like 50 and talking about women like a 13-year-old.

soggy wrote:
We’ve been waiting for the Billy @ Luxon vs Keefer test video for years. Sadly it doesn’t seem like it will ever happen. I don’t know what...

We’ve been waiting for the Billy @ Luxon vs Keefer test video for years. Sadly it doesn’t seem like it will ever happen. 

I don’t know what to believe. If keefer is doing some of these tests blind then it gives it more credibility. If he knows what’s being changed it could be placebo. 

engineers have commented the torque specs won’t affect anything when changing by a few pounds either direction, and they have some data to back it up, but maybe they aren’t looking for the right thing, or cant’t measure it properly?

I doubt an engineer of proper education has any need to dignify unsuɓstantiated claims. The explanations I heard make perfect sense and was reaffirmed by engineers I know. If you have doubts no "tests" will sway your logic and would waste everyone's time I assume. Perception is indeed reality, isn't it?

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