You guys still hate Haiden after that?

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That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least...

That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least try to appreciate the show he's putting on for everyone.  That's what it's all about.

Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast as they can. Levi was going as fast as he could, Deegan was doing something else. 

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Deegan’s antics seem empty since he’s still on the JV team. The Hannah comparisons also lack validity as Bob was racing, and beating, the best in...

Deegan’s antics seem empty since he’s still on the JV team. The Hannah comparisons also lack validity as Bob was racing, and beating, the best in the business.  

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Damn, did you really post that?🤣“Deegan’s antics seem empty since he’s still on the JV team. The Hannah comparisons also lack validity as Bob was...

Damn, did you really post that?🤣

“Deegan’s antics seem empty since he’s still on the JV team. The Hannah comparisons also lack validity as Bob was racing, and beating, the best in the business.”

Psssst…Bob came to fame on a 125. 

And…after that he attacked all 3 National Classes AND SUPERCROSS…ALL…AT ONCE. Some of us were there, thus…we don’t say such silly things.

I’m jus’ sayin’…

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FOR HANNAH, THE 1976 VICTORY WAS MORE THAN JUST A TROPHY FOR HIS MANTLE: IT WAS CLASS WARFARE. HANNAH VIEWED THE WORLD AS A BATTLE BETWEEN THE HAVES AND THE HAVE-NOTS.

In 1977, Hannah wasn’t a veteran of the National circuit. He had pocketed only one complete season in 1976 (and two exploratory 125 Nationals in 1975). But, his star had risen quickly, built on the ashes of the former boy wonder of the 125 class, Marty Smith. In 1976, Hannah had focused his fury on Smith in the way that a cat paws at catnip. The Hurricane, as Hannah was nicknamed, had won five of eight 125 Nationals in 1976 to take the title by 87 points over San Diego surfer Marty Smith, the 1974 and 1975 Champion. For Hannah, the 1976 victory was more than just a trophy for his mantle: it was class warfare. Bob saw Marty Smith as the squeaky clean, middle-class teen idol and himself as the scruffy, working-class desert rat. Hannah viewed the world as a battle between the haves and the have-nots.

For the 1977 season, it is often said that Hannah had bitten off more than he could chew. Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting all four title chases. Hannah split his time between the 125 Nationals, 250 Nationals, 500 Nationals and 250 Supercross series. Believe it or not, if it hadn’t been for scheduling conflicts, Hannah might well have pulled off the quadruple. In the end, the AMA feared a Hannah sweep of every Championship so much that they stopped holding single-class Nationals — choosing to hold them on different tracks . It was a blatant anti-Hannah move by the AMA, but perhaps the greatest compliment that a sanctioning body could pay a rider.

In the 1977 250 Supercross Championship, Bob won six of ten events and clinched the title in late November at Anaheim Stadium. In the 1977 AMA 250 National Championships, Tony DiStefano won his third straight 250 title, but Hannah did manage to win the Herman, Nebraska, round (and finish seventh overall in the standings). In the 1977 AMA 500 National Championships, Hannah won the Charlotte, North Carolina, round and finished second overall behind archenemy Marty Smith for the title.

 

Bob had set out to race ten Supercrosses, seven 250 Nationals, six 500 Nationals and six 125 Nationals in a single year. There was only one date conflict (Hangtown was a combined 125/250 National), but all the rest of the races were single displacement Nationals with support classes. Eventually, the stress of trying to win all the classes was brought to a halt by the reality of the enormity of the task at hand. And while Hannah did manage to pull off winning a 125, 250 and 500 National, plus a 250 Supercross in the same season, Team Yamaha finally chose to have Bob focus on the 125 chase for 1977. And what a 125 National Championship series it turned out to be. There were three distinct battle plans at work during the 1977 series — each manned by riders who would go on to greater things in the coming years.

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Thanks for proving my point, Manny!  And yes, I watched this middle class kid out of Whittier take it to the best in the biz.  He didn’t cower when an alpha dog entered the room; he made it personal against legendary racers with full series titles. 

Deegan has a couple of outdoor titles and is blazingly fast. For the sake of the sport I hope he can take that speed to the next level. We’ll see. 

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That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least...

That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least try to appreciate the show he's putting on for everyone.  That's what it's all about.

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Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast...

Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast as they can. Levi was going as fast as he could, Deegan was doing something else. 

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be a mix like 20 BDB haters (softies) and 70 pussies at the moment, 90 and counting...bring more of your buddies and show everyone just how soft this place has become. 

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I don’t dislike Haiden because he’s good at riding a dirt bike. I respect his abilities and know he’s a great racer. I dislike him because he...

I don’t dislike Haiden because he’s good at riding a dirt bike. I respect his abilities and know he’s a great racer. 

I dislike him because he has the personality of an asshole. 

"I respect his abilities and know he’s a great racer."

And this is what most sane people realise because it's factually undeniable.

What I don't understand is why Deegan's fans seem to think that his detractors should be won over every time he has a good race.  The haters can at least acknowledge his riding ability, but fans cant seem to grasp that he does so much asshole shit on and off the track that no amount of great awesome wtf omg races is going to change peoples minds.

Some people just dislike assholes. 🤷‍♂️

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im just waiting for the 12 page thread on how dangerous yoder is and what a dick head he is for taking out mosiman

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I really enjoyed the racing.  But you surely can see the difference in the 2 guys'.  Levi made quick clean passes whilst deegs does the dirty attempts.  I said to the wife, deegs is the better racer, why does he feel the need to be like that.  Even Haley shanley asked him straight up in the post race, isn't that risky??

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That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least...

That was an epic show between Haiden and Kitchen. One of the most exciting races I've seen in years.  If you still hate him, at least try to appreciate the show he's putting on for everyone.  That's what it's all about.

byke wrote:
Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast...

Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast as they can. Levi was going as fast as he could, Deegan was doing something else. 

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be...

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be a mix like 20 BDB haters (softies) and 70 pussies at the moment, 90 and counting...bring more of your buddies and show everyone just how soft this place has become. 

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

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ZinAZ wrote:

im just waiting for the 12 page thread on how dangerous yoder is and what a dick head he is for taking out mosiman

You won’t see that thread for one reason. It’s a one off incident for Yoder, Deegan it’s a weekly occurrence. 

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Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast...

Think you got all the downvotes because that's not what it's all about. It's not pro wrestling, it's racing, which is where people go as fast as they can. Levi was going as fast as he could, Deegan was doing something else. 

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be...

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be a mix like 20 BDB haters (softies) and 70 pussies at the moment, 90 and counting...bring more of your buddies and show everyone just how soft this place has become. 

byke wrote:
How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always...

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space" on an open track without risk of contact with another racer.  Just all about the "speed" ya know with no excitement and large gaps between competitors as they take their turn at fast lap time.   Sounds similar to a lot of SX/MX races huh?  Like the first 4 races where we had gaps and cushion huh?  I'll take last nights show over the first 4 any day, and the crowd explains why.

BTW, the rider who gets to the checker first is the fastest of the race...aka speed.  I wouldn't care if Deegan pulled over and ate a burger.  Why does it trigger you if he slows up?  Perhaps it's his part of his strategy to get in the head of another rider who has more speed than him at the time like Levi did last night. We've seen it work like last night, and we've seen it bite him. Perhaps the pussy part of all this is just let the other rider go because he's faster, without putting up a fight?  Mental strategy is a huge part of the game whether you like it or not.  

I don't care who wins, I just want to see good racing. Is this entertainment for you, or a time to play psychologist for the kid's personalities and strategies?

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It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be...

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be a mix like 20 BDB haters (softies) and 70 pussies at the moment, 90 and counting...bring more of your buddies and show everyone just how soft this place has become. 

byke wrote:
How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always...

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space"...

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space" on an open track without risk of contact with another racer.  Just all about the "speed" ya know with no excitement and large gaps between competitors as they take their turn at fast lap time.   Sounds similar to a lot of SX/MX races huh?  Like the first 4 races where we had gaps and cushion huh?  I'll take last nights show over the first 4 any day, and the crowd explains why.

BTW, the rider who gets to the checker first is the fastest of the race...aka speed.  I wouldn't care if Deegan pulled over and ate a burger.  Why does it trigger you if he slows up?  Perhaps it's his part of his strategy to get in the head of another rider who has more speed than him at the time like Levi did last night. We've seen it work like last night, and we've seen it bite him. Perhaps the pussy part of all this is just let the other rider go because he's faster, without putting up a fight?  Mental strategy is a huge part of the game whether you like it or not.  

I don't care who wins, I just want to see good racing. Is this entertainment for you, or a time to play psychologist for the kid's personalities and strategies?

Too much extremes going on here. I'm not triggered, I'm just saying that I don't like it when people go slow in racing. It doesn't make me angry. It's like okra, I can eat it fine, but I don't care for it much and saying it aloud isn't some expression of passion. What sounds like being triggered, is assuming that people are triggered because they don't love okra, and that people are pussies because okra isn't their favorite.

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byke wrote:
How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always...

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space"...

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space" on an open track without risk of contact with another racer.  Just all about the "speed" ya know with no excitement and large gaps between competitors as they take their turn at fast lap time.   Sounds similar to a lot of SX/MX races huh?  Like the first 4 races where we had gaps and cushion huh?  I'll take last nights show over the first 4 any day, and the crowd explains why.

BTW, the rider who gets to the checker first is the fastest of the race...aka speed.  I wouldn't care if Deegan pulled over and ate a burger.  Why does it trigger you if he slows up?  Perhaps it's his part of his strategy to get in the head of another rider who has more speed than him at the time like Levi did last night. We've seen it work like last night, and we've seen it bite him. Perhaps the pussy part of all this is just let the other rider go because he's faster, without putting up a fight?  Mental strategy is a huge part of the game whether you like it or not.  

I don't care who wins, I just want to see good racing. Is this entertainment for you, or a time to play psychologist for the kid's personalities and strategies?

byke wrote:
Too much extremes going on here. I'm not triggered, I'm just saying that I don't like it when people go slow in racing. It doesn't make...

Too much extremes going on here. I'm not triggered, I'm just saying that I don't like it when people go slow in racing. It doesn't make me angry. It's like okra, I can eat it fine, but I don't care for it much and saying it aloud isn't some expression of passion. What sounds like being triggered, is assuming that people are triggered because they don't love okra, and that people are pussies because okra isn't their favorite.

So you guys think deegan slowed intentionally to let Levi past and try and take him out?

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So you guys think deegan slowed intentionally to let Levi past and try and take him out?

Fuck with him, tire him out, knock him down. Yes.

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Deegan's on-track behavior and podium interviews have improved remarkably recently.  Anyone who takes active measures towards self-improvement  is OK in my book, and I have been pretty outspoken about my disdain for Deegan in the past. 

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It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be...

It's what it's all about for moto fans, not for softies and pussies.  The downvote here is a tally of BDB haters and pussies.  Could be a mix like 20 BDB haters (softies) and 70 pussies at the moment, 90 and counting...bring more of your buddies and show everyone just how soft this place has become. 

byke wrote:
How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always...

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space"...

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space" on an open track without risk of contact with another racer.  Just all about the "speed" ya know with no excitement and large gaps between competitors as they take their turn at fast lap time.   Sounds similar to a lot of SX/MX races huh?  Like the first 4 races where we had gaps and cushion huh?  I'll take last nights show over the first 4 any day, and the crowd explains why.

BTW, the rider who gets to the checker first is the fastest of the race...aka speed.  I wouldn't care if Deegan pulled over and ate a burger.  Why does it trigger you if he slows up?  Perhaps it's his part of his strategy to get in the head of another rider who has more speed than him at the time like Levi did last night. We've seen it work like last night, and we've seen it bite him. Perhaps the pussy part of all this is just let the other rider go because he's faster, without putting up a fight?  Mental strategy is a huge part of the game whether you like it or not.  

I don't care who wins, I just want to see good racing. Is this entertainment for you, or a time to play psychologist for the kid's personalities and strategies?

Why are you being so dramatic about this? Has anyone had a problem with the racing that went on? It's the WWE bad boy act that people are bored with.. 

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jazza167 wrote:

So you guys think deegan slowed intentionally to let Levi past and try and take him out?

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Fuck with him, tire him out, knock him down. Yes.

That’s quite the assumption…. Nothing to gain by doing that to Levi, also he could have sent him to the fuckn moon in that corner b4 finish line but he held a tight inside line and made a clean pass. 

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jazza167 wrote:

So you guys think deegan slowed intentionally to let Levi past and try and take him out?

OldTech wrote:

Fuck with him, tire him out, knock him down. Yes.

jazza167 wrote:
That’s quite the assumption…. Nothing to gain by doing that to Levi, also he could have sent him to the fuckn moon in that corner b4...

That’s quite the assumption…. Nothing to gain by doing that to Levi, also he could have sent him to the fuckn moon in that corner b4 finish line but he held a tight inside line and made a clean pass. 

HD likes winning more than anything. If he had the speed to run away from Levi he would have. 

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If he grew up poor from a blue collar family I wouldn't hate him. But I can't stand metal melusha and his dad's ultra white teeth...

If he grew up poor from a blue collar family I wouldn't hate him. But I can't stand metal melusha and his dad's ultra white teeth make me cringe.

Don't forget the botox...Brian's going to end up looking like Nicole Kidman...

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If he grew up poor from a blue collar family I wouldn't hate him. But I can't stand metal melusha and his dad's ultra white teeth...

If he grew up poor from a blue collar family I wouldn't hate him. But I can't stand metal melusha and his dad's ultra white teeth make me cringe.

Don't forget the botox...Brian's going to end up looking like Nicole Kidman...

Nicole Kidman is a smoke show easy on the slander

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People that say Haiden and Lawrence resemble Bob Hannah, knew nothing about Bob Hannah. 

 I’ll also bet we never see Haiden stealing and crashing rental cars or high on X throwing the furniture from the window of his fourth story hotel room. 

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All the talk about toughness, haters and down voting pussies makes me laugh.  In my experience people who talk about those things are the most precious of all.

Sometimes I also wonder if I watched a different race. Imo what we saw was Kitchen being straight up faster than Deegan because he was consistently doing combinations that Haiden wasn't. 

But once Levi passed him, he was no longer consistently nailing the same combos that got him there. That may have been a loss of concentration because of Deegan's antics, plus traffic,  plus a change in mentality.  But either way, he lost that speed differential., and Haiden beat him fair and square. 

Kitchen would have been better off just sitting behind Deegan and picking a moment later in the race to pounce.

Great racing regardless and the fragile egos have continued the entertainment .

 

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The only thing Kitchen does better than Deegan is take outs. Levi’s on point with those. Deegs on the other hand may be the worst take out artist ever. The kids take out skills need serious work. Haiden needs to put little bro to use and practice up. 

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ZinAZ wrote:

im just waiting for the 12 page thread on how dangerous yoder is and what a dick head he is for taking out mosiman

vdrsnk04 wrote:

You won’t see that thread for one reason. It’s a one off incident for Yoder, Deegan it’s a weekly occurrence. 

what was this weeks take out? what was last weeks take out?

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byke wrote:
How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always...

How does this topic equate to toughness? I didn't read all the posts, so I don't know any subtext going on, but I personally have always thought of racing as being about speed. Something like enduros or trials do have a speed component, but technically they're competitions, not exactly races. I've always loved mx racing, which racing means you don't go slow. I've never liked slowing up to cause problems, not when Friese does it and not when Tomac did it back in 2017 and not when Deegan did it to Shimoda and not when he did it again last night. I do love Deegan's full send riding (Ironman!) and think he's in amazing race shape and can't wait to see him go up against Jett, but I don't like attention seeking SoCal bros and I don't like slowing up on the track to cause problems, which means that I don't like those aspects of the Deegans. It seems odd and very out of place to equate those things to being tough, 

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space"...

Perhaps you all should migrate over to autocross then where there is no mind games, no other competitors on the track, everyone has their "safe space" on an open track without risk of contact with another racer.  Just all about the "speed" ya know with no excitement and large gaps between competitors as they take their turn at fast lap time.   Sounds similar to a lot of SX/MX races huh?  Like the first 4 races where we had gaps and cushion huh?  I'll take last nights show over the first 4 any day, and the crowd explains why.

BTW, the rider who gets to the checker first is the fastest of the race...aka speed.  I wouldn't care if Deegan pulled over and ate a burger.  Why does it trigger you if he slows up?  Perhaps it's his part of his strategy to get in the head of another rider who has more speed than him at the time like Levi did last night. We've seen it work like last night, and we've seen it bite him. Perhaps the pussy part of all this is just let the other rider go because he's faster, without putting up a fight?  Mental strategy is a huge part of the game whether you like it or not.  

I don't care who wins, I just want to see good racing. Is this entertainment for you, or a time to play psychologist for the kid's personalities and strategies?

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Why are you being so dramatic about this? Has anyone had a problem with the racing that went on? It's the WWE bad boy act that...

Why are you being so dramatic about this? Has anyone had a problem with the racing that went on? It's the WWE bad boy act that people are bored with.. 

"Has anyone had a problem with the racing that went on?"

The answer is yes, many of you here.  I would start by reading the thread first, maybe even just the first few posts.

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Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about it, but what does he know about racing. 

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truck wrote:
Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about...

Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about it, but what does he know about racing. 

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment, they would disagree.  Who wants to attend or watch a boring race?  Not me.

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truck wrote:
Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about...

Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about it, but what does he know about racing. 

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment...

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment, they would disagree.  Who wants to attend or watch a boring race?  Not me.

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better. I felt like I was really seeing something special that you can’t get from watching at home. Call it what you want , to me that was some great racing by both riders.

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2/16/2026 12:13pm
truck wrote:
Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about...

Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about it, but what does he know about racing. 

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment...

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment, they would disagree.  Who wants to attend or watch a boring race?  Not me.

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better...

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better. I felt like I was really seeing something special that you can’t get from watching at home. Call it what you want , to me that was some great racing by both riders.

Of course, being there is always way more special.  You can't hear or feel the energy through the broadcast.   Would you say the roars were mostly for Kitchen or were there a bunch of uproars for Deegan too?  Half and half?

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truck wrote:
Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about...

Mitch Payton said it was too much cat and mouse for him and he wished Levi would have just raced forward more instead of worrying about it, but what does he know about racing. 

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment...

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment, they would disagree.  Who wants to attend or watch a boring race?  Not me.

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better...

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better. I felt like I was really seeing something special that you can’t get from watching at home. Call it what you want , to me that was some great racing by both riders.

Did it make you even more of a super_fan?

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I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment...

I would think any team manager or owner would say the same.  However, if you polled the 60K attendees in Seattle who bought tickets for entertainment, they would disagree.  Who wants to attend or watch a boring race?  Not me.

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better...

The back story/history between the two made it even better. Then when everyone in attendance was going out of their minds screaming made it even better. I felt like I was really seeing something special that you can’t get from watching at home. Call it what you want , to me that was some great racing by both riders.

GrapeApe wrote:

Did it make you even more of a super_fan?

Yes!

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On what planet is a 20 year old considered a kid? Are you saying that he has the mental capacity of a kid?

I guess it depends how old you are.  20 years old is a kid to me.  But if you are 20 or close to it, you...

I guess it depends how old you are.  20 years old is a kid to me.  But if you are 20 or close to it, you definitely don’t think you are a kid.  Give it time and you’ll understand. 

I agree, I’m 65 and HD is a kid. 

Deegan is not a kid, he is a child. Big difference

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