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I keep reading here that ICE agents arent properly trained - unsure of that being true, but I'll entertain it for conversation sake. Can we look at the other side of the coin here, and deduce that the staged protesters werent properly trained on what to expect from Federal Law Enforcement?
So its not about deporting the worst of the worst illegal criminals ? Its punishing MN because Trump is still hung up on his 2020 loss and has accused them without ANYPROOF?
So they sent ICE in to cause trouble and have leverage to get Voter registration info from the state. And Immigration enforcement is not needed? Afterall why would they agree to pull out in exchange for voter records, right?
A lot of the things You guys are thrilled that Trump is doing are setting precedents for future democrat presidents to do similar things. Things that were not acceptable before, things that You would likely dislike. And because congress and the courts have not stopped Trump form doing things, the Democrat will have an easy time fighting any oposission at that point. When Trump does something that is not following the law or procedure that You like, he's making it OK for future presidents to do the same thing , but do things that You may not like. That is a big reason why some people are speaking out against some things Trump has done that have cut corners from being done the official way. Its not that they necessarily disagree with what he's doing, just how he's doing it and the precedent it sets that would give future presidents more power and take it away from congress, the courts and the press. Powers that the constitution gives them.
I haven't heard either way
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15502789/alex-pretti-federal-agents-shot-dead-minneapolis.html
Brings a gun to a protest a week after fighting with ICE agents and breaking a rib..... is it victim blaming to report this?
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Kettle meet pot. What’s your news source and, what makes it so reliable. Honest question. It’s funny to me because I see you claiming fake news yet, the post regarding the couple protecting their property was nothing more than uneducated propaganda.
Truck, you are nailing it here.
I don’t know how you have the patience to keep it up.
She’s a pos. She killed a pup because it wasn’t good at hunting. I wish her the absolute worst.
Just as I said previously…
They don’t care about facts, truth or reality.
No worries. They’ll never understand that carrying a weapon requires cognizance …as in the sane capability to know when and where to carry…or…
Not.
This dude engages Federal Law Enforcement Officers and gets taken down…then…returns days later…
ARMED.
As I’ve been saying…the facts don’t matter to those that don’t truly care about reason or reality.
Nor were they properly trained to obey the law; because, the orchestrators of this “resistance” want the casualties.
I have been mostly stuck in the house with children and too cold to get out and do anything for the last several days, incredibly bored, spending waaayyy too much time on here..... at least it's helping pass the time.
I feel for ICE agents that are good people trying to do a good thing. I don't get the impression this represents many of them, particularly the newer additions. It is unfortunate but they are being used to further promote an agenda that will ultimately hurt most of them at some point, too. They aren't put in a position to succeed, this much is clear.
I did find it peculiar that Bondi asked for Minnesota voter data in her letter to the Governor. The 5d chess folks will surely see the correlation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/26/pam-bondi-minnesota-voter-rolls-ice-surge
Just like us going after Maduro...Kill a couple birds with one stone. Check the box to pay back oil giants that helped bankroll Trumps last run (though none of them actually want to bite on Venezuela), and get Maduro to tell everyone that Venezuela did indeed rig the 2020 election. Hell even Machado gave Donny her Nobel Peace Prize to appease the orange fella.
https://www.wired.com/story/election-deniers-think-venezuela-attack-abo…
Access to voter data and increasing federal control and oversight, intimidation, midterms. States have too much power in how voters vote, this is very clear in the Constitution. The Donfather does not approve of this, and is now bullying states in particular who didn't/won't comply. He will very likely see a third impeachment if Republicans lose midterms. ICE is a tool to accomplish this, and appease his base with some juicy nuggets along the way.
For all the folks that saw how out of touch Biden was, it is quite astonishing to think this same group broadly paints The Donfather as the best president ever, and a stone cold negotiator who is sharp as a tack. An increase in the collective level of awareness brings with it the awareness that a lot of us are idiots. Myself included.
they are likely pardoned j6ers. they don't deserve pity, they signed up to hurt people (clearly).
Because it’s Liberal city.
The info I have shared about them not being trained to deal with crowd control of Protesters came directly from a person who was DEFENDING ICE and has knowledge of the way things work with respect to the current training they are getting.
If Your defence of the officers shooting ( Not You , one of the other posters) is that they likely panicked in the high stress environment. That would imply that there could be better training to me.
I have personally had a gun held to my head before so I have some experience with the thought process somebody that has not gone through that might have. And I know that there is training and things I could learn that would have helped me deal with that better. They are not civilians and they should be trained on how to deal with people who have a weapon and want to hurt them.
After all they are going after the worst of the worst, gangs like the Trendy Amigo's. If they have trouble dealing with people yelling insults at them and taking videos of them, how would they deal with a person with a gun that was really trying to hurt them? I feel like they are setting ICE up to fail.
Why do people on the right constantly think that anybody with a different opinion that protest is paid? Are You paid to have the opinions You have? How much money would it take for You to be a paid protestor ? The people that Trump pardoned from Jan 6th were supporters of his right?? How much did he pay them to storm the capital? I'm guessing it's the crazy things that You hear the NEWs talk about that they connect to Democrats. Things that are NOT mainstream democratic things. My theory is that You figure that anybody that is believing in those things must be crazy and being paid to say they are for them. Maybe I'm wrong, I would like to know what the reasoning is.
I would like to point out that there are likely some crazy things that have been said about republicans right? Things that are also not a mainstream republican thing. But things that have been associated with small parts of the party. Things You may think are crazy or fake news . Things that You would never do or agree with. Well that's the same thing with Democrats, most people who have voted have a lot in common no matter what party they voted for. Its the smaller % that give the parties the bad names and are baggage that the party leaders are afraid to disown in fear of not getting their votes.
Most democrats are not getting a sex change for their 2 year olds and most republicans are not at KKK meetings. But a small percentage are and are doing and saying those other things that You hear about on Your favorite flavor of opinion injected new reporting masked as News.
I mean I know not all of us do, and a protest isn’t the greatest spot but a lot of us up here in Washington carry a gun with us everywhere, and I assumed it wasn’t uncommon. It seems like the classic shooting someone and then finding a gun to afterwards be like “well he had a gun!” as an excuse
All of a sudden a randon , nameless source is good enough proof. If its true it looks worse for Pretti. But even in that article all he was accused of doing was blowing a whistle. After somebody had already escaped and was being chased.
If the official way of dealing with somebody that is blowing a whistle is to tackle them, I think that might highlight an issue with the training. In that article the suspect had already gotten away from the agents that were chasing him. Blowing the whistle in this case and most, is going to grab other people's attention and get more people's eyes on whatever is happening. That's all, if they were chasing somebody that got away, and that person was running already. I fail to see how blowing a whistle interferes. Annoying maybe. And if done while ICE was trying to sneak up on somebody that could alert the subject. But that wasn't happening in this case at least it didn't sound like it by the way they described the events.
Not going after everybody that yells or blows a whistle could be a great way to avoid altercations with people who are not a target. When was the last time You heard of anybody getting tackled or pepper sprayed at a protest for blowing a whistle? Other than the current ICE protests. Maybe in another country, but unlikely in the US at the scale its happening now.
Pit Row
It was really more of a rhetorical question, honestly. (Edited for spelling)
There are many conditions someone uses a wheelchair and is not paralyzed. You don’t know what you’re talking about on this one.
That’s a screenshot from a video I just watched. For somebody in a wheelchair, he sure moved very quick when he realized he dropped whatever it is he’s picking up.
Can you say for certain he isn’t down there just to agitate?
I’m talking about the assumption that anyone that uses a wheelchair and can get out of it doesn’t need it. Same goes for people with disability parking placards. There are many invisible illnesses.
No kidding? 🙄 Do you take everything posted as gospel around here? Is what you’re saying true? Sure.
Now, keep an open mind…. Considering what I saw during the so called Seattle, summer of love bullshit in the Autonomous Zone, I had “protestors” blocking my work van. I’m skeptical. I think many of these protestors are there to agitate the situation going on in Minnesota. Is that possible? I believe it is. Maybe not with this individual but, we will never 100% know.
Is being a skeptic a bad thing?
If he saw the entire TikTok he’d know better.
No worries.
It’s the web.
😂 Can’t see the guys gas mask at that angle either 😂
Manny, you’re not analyzing facts, you’re building a narrative that justifies the outcome. ‘Agitating, impeding, assault, resisting, instigating’ are conclusions, not evidence. And since I apparently need to ask again, why was ‘touching LEOs’ on J6 something you have consistently defended, but here you’re comfortable declaring assault and intent from clips and press lines?
Also, this constant vague ‘they’ you use, who exactly is ‘they’? Because it reads less like analysis and more like a placeholder for whoever you need to blame in the moment.
This thread continues to deliver.
Nope. No train for me. However, in my younger years. Over 24 tickets. Hauled in twice. Lots of interaction with LEO’s. I was a stubborn Mule. . And guess what? I’ve Never been shot. Never been beaten. You know why? I simply COMPLIED. Had my days in court. Followed the process. Amazing how that works when you COMPLY. Guess some are even more stubborn then me and FAFO 🤷🏼.
Don’t take this the wrong way. But you are a full on dipshit
Don’t mind me
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