Preventative Maintenance?

ARM670
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12/12/2025 2:51am
ARM670 wrote:

I thought PM meant Post Malfunction. 🤣

yak651 wrote:

Be proactive and wait….actually had a leader say this once, I was so impressed with my self control 

I get so annoyed in the steel mills we work at because they always talk Preventive Maintenance,  but dont follow through then it becomes Post Malfunction and they are asking how did this happen.

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12/12/2025 2:56am

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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12/12/2025 3:25am
bodycast wrote:

Here in N.C if you dont pressure was your bike its going to look completely clapped in 20 hours.

Same in Northern Europe. In the winter we carry 45 gallons of water to the racetrack and jet the bikes down between Motos.
12/12/2025 3:28am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2025 3:30am
Zerk fittings are next to useless for this application. You'd need to drill through the aluminium and through the steel bearing case in order for the grease to get to the needle rollers. Lost count of the number of times Ive seen zerk fittings on steering stems- the grease isn't getting anywhere near the bearings, all you're doing is filling your frame up with grease!
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12/12/2025 6:45am

Hadn’t even thought about a kidney belt since 1980. 

Yup, same here. 
My last kidney belt was a Gold Belt, can’t even remember who made it… maybe it was just “the gold belt” ? 
 

Yes, "Gold Belt" was the brand name and they're still being made, although apparently no longer available in the sweet black and gold so many of us had during the yellow YZ era -          

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They haven't been available through most outlets for many years now so I started using different brands in the '90s since they were so hard to find.

Looks like they're now primarily black with some R/W/B trim. To me, they have that '70s look now.

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12/12/2025 7:10am

Hadn’t even thought about a kidney belt since 1980. 

Yup, same here. 
My last kidney belt was a Gold Belt, can’t even remember who made it… maybe it was just “the gold belt” ? 
 

Yes, "Gold Belt" was the brand name and they're still being made, although apparently no longer available in the sweet black and gold so many of...

Yes, "Gold Belt" was the brand name and they're still being made, although apparently no longer available in the sweet black and gold so many of us had during the yellow YZ era -          

 image 2381 

 

They haven't been available through most outlets for many years now so I started using different brands in the '90s since they were so hard to find.

Looks like they're now primarily black with some R/W/B trim. To me, they have that '70s look now.

image 2382

 

Sweet find! 🤠

I’ve gotta find some old school Scott boots!

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12/12/2025 7:31am
johnk408 wrote:
Grease my wheel bearings every time I change a tire. Other bearing, I do every winter at longest. Suspension fluids a couple times a year. Garden...

Grease my wheel bearings every time I change a tire. Other bearing, I do every winter at longest. Suspension fluids a couple times a year. Garden hose only and wash, clean, dry and lube all pivot points every time I ride, which is once a week spring-fall at most.

Greasing sealed bearings?

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12/12/2025 7:41am
bodycast wrote:

Here in N.C if you dont pressure was your bike its going to look completely clapped in 20 hours.

Also NC, I’ve only ever used Shout and a garden hose and my bikes end up looking great every time. Sold my last CRF with about 20 hours on it looking almost as good as new.

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Tim507
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12/12/2025 7:43am
Tim507 wrote:
When  I raced in the 60's and early 70's it was normal to tear down the bike to the frame every few rides, clean and relube...

When  I raced in the 60's and early 70's it was normal to tear down the bike to the frame every few rides, clean and relube everything. The steering hed bearings were loose with no seals. If we rode oin the rain (which did) every ride

kage173 wrote:

Sounds like a lot of work.

I was 15 to my mid 20's before better quality bikes were released and it was enjoyable - but yes it was a lot of work! We rode rain or shine every weekend and after school and work. It was a necessity as the all the bearing locations had no seals in the early days. We were continuously repacking wheel bearings. Bikes were really pretty simple and could be stripped in an hour and 2 hours to reassemble or less. The passion is still here today for me. I have 2 bikes apart in my shop right now getting various maintenance and updates

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12/12/2025 7:43am

…….and hopefully only with low pressure garden hose water……

ando wrote:
I think the people who believe a pressure washer will damage their bike are the same ones who hold the nozzle half an inch away from...

I think the people who believe a pressure washer will damage their bike are the same ones who hold the nozzle half an inch away from what they are trying to clean.

Go away, Simpleton. Before I make your Mother regret the day she gave birth to your ass. 

Hell of a crash out over a pressure washer.

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12/12/2025 7:43am
johnk408 wrote:
Grease my wheel bearings every time I change a tire. Other bearing, I do every winter at longest. Suspension fluids a couple times a year. Garden...

Grease my wheel bearings every time I change a tire. Other bearing, I do every winter at longest. Suspension fluids a couple times a year. Garden hose only and wash, clean, dry and lube all pivot points every time I ride, which is once a week spring-fall at most.

Greasing sealed bearings?

Hook tool - pop out the seal and repack

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KurtJ99
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12/12/2025 7:47am
Zerk fittings are next to useless for this application. You'd need to drill through the aluminium and through the steel bearing case in order for the...
Zerk fittings are next to useless for this application. You'd need to drill through the aluminium and through the steel bearing case in order for the grease to get to the needle rollers. Lost count of the number of times Ive seen zerk fittings on steering stems- the grease isn't getting anywhere near the bearings, all you're doing is filling your frame up with grease!

With modern needle bearings, the zerk hole will only get in between a few of the bearings and not work its way around.  1980 bikes like XRs I think had them but they were sleeve and bushings. Sloppy tolerances but grease could be forced around. I believe a company called “Cancilla” sold needle bearing bushings with a groove that addressed it, but failed a lot at the groove, a stress concentration IIRC. 

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12/12/2025 8:39am
neysbo wrote:
Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

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12/12/2025 8:44am

I'm more into postventative maintenance 

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12/12/2025 8:49am
neysbo wrote:
Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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That's a disposable tearoff - you tear off the rider and dispose of the bike. 😄

I've made pottery like that many times (though it's mostly been red clay) and more than once wished I could afford to get a new bike instead of dealing with the aftermath. 😬 Those conditions don't fall under the "fun" category anymore. ☹️

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12/12/2025 10:54am

I grease the chassis once per year on my none race bikes and they're always fine. The lower shock bearing probably needs greasing more, like every 3 months if you ride where it's wet. 

On my race bikes, I try to grease the chassis at the halfway point of the series. Everything always looks good except the lower shock bearing, it could definitely use a zert and grease every race. 

My 2019 YZ450FX is still running the factory bearings on everything except the wheels and lower shock bearing. 

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12/12/2025 12:03pm
Timo wrote:
I grease the chassis once per year on my none race bikes and they're always fine. The lower shock bearing probably needs greasing more, like every...

I grease the chassis once per year on my none race bikes and they're always fine. The lower shock bearing probably needs greasing more, like every 3 months if you ride where it's wet. 

On my race bikes, I try to grease the chassis at the halfway point of the series. Everything always looks good except the lower shock bearing, it could definitely use a zert and grease every race. 

My 2019 YZ450FX is still running the factory bearings on everything except the wheels and lower shock bearing. 

I will pull the bottom shock bolt and let the shock hang down to gain access to grease the lower shock bearing. I pull my bike apart every 10 hours and usually need a lower shock bearing at 20 hours.

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12/12/2025 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/12/2025 6:18pm

I try to wash my bikes after every ride, preferably ASAP. I recently put off washing after my last ride of the year (rode Wednesday and left town for the weekend) and the frame and engine cases stained from something in the soil. I've left my bike sit dirty a few times but sometimes you don't know what's in the soil (especially at tracks you don't regularly ride at) and it could cause you a headache later if you want your bikes to look fresh.

I service my suspension as a complete set every 15-20 hours and re-grease all the pivot bolts while the suspension is in the shop.

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12/12/2025 6:49pm

Tis the  season …….

For bike maintenance.spend the winter in the shop.

Plastic off,airbox out , suspension off , wheels off ,bars etc.

Wash out, off the bits. Regreased as required.drive chain sprockets etc cleaned .frame is washed touched up with scotch brite pads.

 

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12/12/2025 9:09pm
Camo383 wrote:
I try to wash my bikes after every ride, preferably ASAP. I recently put off washing after my last ride of the year (rode Wednesday and...

I try to wash my bikes after every ride, preferably ASAP. I recently put off washing after my last ride of the year (rode Wednesday and left town for the weekend) and the frame and engine cases stained from something in the soil. I've left my bike sit dirty a few times but sometimes you don't know what's in the soil (especially at tracks you don't regularly ride at) and it could cause you a headache later if you want your bikes to look fresh.

I service my suspension as a complete set every 15-20 hours and re-grease all the pivot bolts while the suspension is in the shop.

I’m always afraid that of that. This is the only bike that was never put away dirty. 2 years, 84 hours and always used a pressure washer and shout. Highly recommend shout over simple green 

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12/12/2025 11:22pm
disbanded wrote:

I'm more into postventative maintenance 

postventative rebuildenance

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12/13/2025 12:00am
neysbo wrote:
Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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avidchimp wrote:

Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

There's only one way to become good at mud racing!

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12/13/2025 7:40am
neysbo wrote:
Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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avidchimp wrote:

Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

Radical wrote:

There's only one way to become good at mud racing!

Last mud race I ever did was at LACR in spring of 1998, and it absolutely ruined my KX250. That wet sand/mud somehow ruined every bearing on the bike, sucked sand and ruined the cylinder, the list goes on. 

I was 23 years old, broke as fuck trying to raise twins and somehow keep racing, and that day I swore I'd never ride in the mud again and that record is still intact. lol

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12/13/2025 8:29am
avidchimp wrote:

Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

Radical wrote:

There's only one way to become good at mud racing!

avidchimp wrote:
Last mud race I ever did was at LACR in spring of 1998, and it absolutely ruined my KX250. That wet sand/mud somehow ruined every bearing...

Last mud race I ever did was at LACR in spring of 1998, and it absolutely ruined my KX250. That wet sand/mud somehow ruined every bearing on the bike, sucked sand and ruined the cylinder, the list goes on. 

I was 23 years old, broke as fuck trying to raise twins and somehow keep racing, and that day I swore I'd never ride in the mud again and that record is still intact. lol

Unfortunately, if you live in the SE US and refuse to ride in mud/wet (especially if you do any sort of offroad), you can end up riding the sofa more than the bike. 😁

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12/13/2025 8:36am
Unfortunately, if you live in the SE US and refuse to ride in mud/wet (especially if you do any sort of offroad), you can end up...

Unfortunately, if you live in the SE US and refuse to ride in mud/wet (especially if you do any sort of offroad), you can end up riding the sofa more than the bike. 😁

I’ve got this buddy in Washington State that hates mud……

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12/13/2025 10:16am

I maintain my engine very well, changing the oil, top end rebuilds, clean air filters, shock and fork medium well, spokes kept tight, chain tension correct.  Suspension bearings, not so much.

If anyone beside me was willing to admit it, I don't believe I'd be alone in saying that I've never re-greased my linkage.

I'm riding a 2005 Yz125 that I bought new in 2004.

I don't ride as often as some on this forum, but that's not a good excuse.  I'm anticipating needing to replace all of the bearings, and maybe more.

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12/13/2025 10:44am
avidchimp wrote:

Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

Radical wrote:

There's only one way to become good at mud racing!

avidchimp wrote:
Last mud race I ever did was at LACR in spring of 1998, and it absolutely ruined my KX250. That wet sand/mud somehow ruined every bearing...

Last mud race I ever did was at LACR in spring of 1998, and it absolutely ruined my KX250. That wet sand/mud somehow ruined every bearing on the bike, sucked sand and ruined the cylinder, the list goes on. 

I was 23 years old, broke as fuck trying to raise twins and somehow keep racing, and that day I swore I'd never ride in the mud again and that record is still intact. lol

Come to Snowshoe its fun!

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12/13/2025 10:48am
neysbo wrote:
Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out

Have fun using a garden hose on this.  Especially when you have an hour or so and have to go back out


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avidchimp wrote:

Say what you want about it, but I'd NEVER ride in those conditions. Ever.

Think yourself lucky you don’t live in Northern Europe. 

Or Wales. 9 out of 10 rides in Wales are those conditions!🤣

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