Surgery for a dislocated surgery, worth it?

Ddavis wrote:

Thanks alot, you said some good stuff right there that I didn't know previously. Also thanks for everyone elses opinions. I haven't seen my doctor yet...

Thanks alot, you said some good stuff right there that I didn't know previously.


Also thanks for everyone elses opinions.

I haven't seen my doctor yet, it's thanksgiving week so it's hard to get an appointment in but once I do ill get his opinion. My main doctor used to race motocross at Indian Dunes back in the day so he get's it.

Ddavis wrote:

Is surgery after dislocating your shoulder worth it? If I don't get surgery I can just do the physical therapy for it and build up the...

Is surgery after dislocating your shoulder worth it?


If I don't get surgery I can just do the physical therapy for it and build up the strength around the injury, and maybe be ready for Gold Cup in 8 weeks. or I can do surgery and be out for 4-6 months. What's recommended? Who's gotton surgery/didnt get surgery and was fine?

JYZ566 wrote:

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time. If you just popped...

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time.

If you just popped it out of place, and there is no bony impingements in the shoulder then rehab/exercise will be sufficient. If there is a bony impingent, avulsion, tendon injury/ligament injury (besides stretched) then shoulder surgery is kind of a waste in my opinon. Have you seen a sports medicine orthopedist?

In any case, I have dislocated both shoulders at one point in my life (not at the same time). After diligence in strength training/ mobilizing the shoulder girdle and generally packing on some muscle to support the joint, it has been a non-issue.

See a good ortho, pt is a waste of time and money (in my opinion). Research yourself and maybe get in contact with a good coach who specializes in strength and conditioning.

jndmx wrote:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/munchausen-syndrome/DS00965

Ddavis wrote:

Thanks alot, you said some good stuff right there that I didn't know previously. Also thanks for everyone elses opinions. I haven't seen my doctor yet...

Thanks alot, you said some good stuff right there that I didn't know previously.


Also thanks for everyone elses opinions.

I haven't seen my doctor yet, it's thanksgiving week so it's hard to get an appointment in but once I do ill get his opinion. My main doctor used to race motocross at Indian Dunes back in the day so he get's it.

UpTiTe wrote:

If you haven't seen your Dr yet then how do you know either way? First off get an MRI to truely know what is wrong. Second...

If you haven't seen your Dr yet then how do you know either way?

First off get an MRI to truely know what is wrong.

Second your not a pro so why destroy your body for the Gold Cup when your living doesn't depend on it? Your DR might get it, but in 15 years when your 30 and broken down from chasing the dream, you'll wish your DR didn't get it and gave you good advice instead.

Third and most important, please, PLEASE don't take any medical advice you might get here or any other board seiously, go to to your Dr.

JYZ566 wrote:

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time. If you just popped...

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time.

If you just popped it out of place, and there is no bony impingements in the shoulder then rehab/exercise will be sufficient. If there is a bony impingent, avulsion, tendon injury/ligament injury (besides stretched) then shoulder surgery is kind of a waste in my opinon. Have you seen a sports medicine orthopedist?

In any case, I have dislocated both shoulders at one point in my life (not at the same time). After diligence in strength training/ mobilizing the shoulder girdle and generally packing on some muscle to support the joint, it has been a non-issue.

See a good ortho, pt is a waste of time and money (in my opinion). Research yourself and maybe get in contact with a good coach who specializes in strength and conditioning.

MDMCG wrote:

This is a completely false post. Not only from the medical side, but also from the physical therapy and rehabilitation side. Just to give you an...

This is a completely false post. Not only from the medical side, but also from the physical therapy and rehabilitation side.

Just to give you an idea, surgery is not recommended for an AC separation (grade I, II, or III), and is recommended for grade (IV, V, and VI). There are also labrum tears that result in intrensic weakness to the joint, which no amount of physical therapy, weight lifting, or anything else to the shoulder is going to get it back near 100%.

My wife also found the last statement a complete fallacy, considering that PT's spend a lot of their time doing exactly what you said, but in a safe and methodical manner that protect further injury and optimizes function. Considering the fact that she was a personal trainer prior to getting her doctorate in physical therapy, she might know a thing or two about both approaches to rehabilitation. In addition to this, there isn't a single sports medicine orthopedist that would recommend for this patient to forgo physical therapy. In a surgical case, PT is crucial to gaining function, strength, range of motion, etc of the joint. In a non-surgical case, it provides a safe and methodical approach to rehab'ing the shoulder and stabilizing the joint (unless there is a significant labrum tear).
http://www.steadman-hawkins.com/...eration/overview.asp

PS. Steadman Hawkins clinic is one of the most renowned orthopedic clinics in the world.

JYZ566 wrote:

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time. If you just popped...

Surgery for a dislocated shoulder is not warranted UNLESS there's an AC injury (grade 2 sometimes, grade 3 most of the time.

If you just popped it out of place, and there is no bony impingements in the shoulder then rehab/exercise will be sufficient. If there is a bony impingent, avulsion, tendon injury/ligament injury (besides stretched) then shoulder surgery is kind of a waste in my opinon. Have you seen a sports medicine orthopedist?

In any case, I have dislocated both shoulders at one point in my life (not at the same time). After diligence in strength training/ mobilizing the shoulder girdle and generally packing on some muscle to support the joint, it has been a non-issue.

See a good ortho, pt is a waste of time and money (in my opinion). Research yourself and maybe get in contact with a good coach who specializes in strength and conditioning.

ChuckC wrote:

Clavicle separation is no big deal as long as the bones are still touching. Like mentioned above, it just adds a bump on your shoulder. If...

Clavicle separation is no big deal as long as the bones are still touching. Like mentioned above, it just adds a bump on your shoulder. If you separated your shoulder, you can work out and help build the muscles to hold it in, but that will only do so much. I dislocated mine in 04 and never got it fixed. My trainer showed me the moves to build my shoulder and I thought I was good. I couldn't do some things, but it was pretty much fine. 5 years later I could raise my arms and it would come out. I went to the doctor and was told that the bottom socket of my scapula was gone. While my shoulder felt tight for the previous 5 years, it was loose inside and my humerus bounced around until it just ground the shoulder socket away. The Dr. was able to move another bone in my shoulder and screw it in place of the missing socket, tighten all the loose stuff and I am now good to go. Most docs say 6 months, but Dr. Sanders in Houston (www.sandersclinic.net), who also is a rider, can have you back on your bike in 3 months if you have the drive.

ChuckC wrote:

Clavicle separation is no big deal as long as the bones are still touching. Like mentioned above, it just adds a bump on your shoulder. If...

Clavicle separation is no big deal as long as the bones are still touching. Like mentioned above, it just adds a bump on your shoulder. If you separated your shoulder, you can work out and help build the muscles to hold it in, but that will only do so much. I dislocated mine in 04 and never got it fixed. My trainer showed me the moves to build my shoulder and I thought I was good. I couldn't do some things, but it was pretty much fine. 5 years later I could raise my arms and it would come out. I went to the doctor and was told that the bottom socket of my scapula was gone. While my shoulder felt tight for the previous 5 years, it was loose inside and my humerus bounced around until it just ground the shoulder socket away. The Dr. was able to move another bone in my shoulder and screw it in place of the missing socket, tighten all the loose stuff and I am now good to go. Most docs say 6 months, but Dr. Sanders in Houston (www.sandersclinic.net), who also is a rider, can have you back on your bike in 3 months if you have the drive.

yz763 wrote:

I had this same procedure 5-6 years ago. My bone graft dissolved and my shoulder still comes out, just not all the way. It comes out...

I had this same procedure 5-6 years ago. My bone graft dissolved and my shoulder still comes out, just not all the way. It comes out a bit, hits the screw then goes back in. From what my Dr. told me, we both have a kind of rare injury that has about a 50/50 success rate. I am in the process of getting this fixed, I just need to be able to take a month or so off and do it.