Did I read Roczen kicked out?

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Quickly scrolling through, I thought I saw a comment about Ken getting kicked out of WSX, but can’t find it. Since then there’s been no mention. Was I hallucinating?

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11/18/2025 10:09am

I think WSX canceled their contract with him and the Cooksey crowd is turning into a thing.

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11/18/2025 10:35am

Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it being ridiculous because the guy had a bike problem. 

Just looked and post seems to be gone so I assume it had something to do with that.

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it...

Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it being ridiculous because the guy had a bike problem. 

Just looked and post seems to be gone so I assume it had something to do with that.

Simonson was DQ for not doing the sight lap. 

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11/18/2025 10:41am

Cancelled their contract with him?. I can’t imagine they’d kick out the star of the show! Hmm. Guess we’ll see…

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it...

Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it being ridiculous because the guy had a bike problem. 

Just looked and post seems to be gone so I assume it had something to do with that.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Simonson was DQ for not doing the sight lap. 

That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the riders decide to not do a light lap. 

Seems a weird rule for WSX to make, let alone enforce. 

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Kevin852 wrote:
That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the...

That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the riders decide to not do a light lap. 

Seems a weird rule for WSX to make, let alone enforce. 

Guessing it's a safety/precautionary thing. 

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11/18/2025 11:08am

Wsx dropping the ball on not paying kroc to do all the races... not a good look

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gt80rider wrote:

Wsx dropping the ball on not paying kroc to do all the races... not a good look

Buying in riders is one thing (definitely made for way better racing here n there for sure), but letting the championship leader randomly drop out after three races is a super weird look for not gonna lie.

I asked about Kenny and his contract in the Vancouver thread and I think aeffertz said that he was only contracted to race three races per year in the first place, but Kenny in interviews at least seemed rather surprised that he doesn't get to race the whole series this year? So yeah.. I don't think we'll get to know the whole story..

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11/18/2025 12:40pm

If I had to guess, he was originally contracted to do all the races in the series at a set amount per race. When the promoters started crunching the numbers they came to the conclusion they could only afford to pay him for 3 races at that per race dollar amount.

So to put it in regular everyday working man terms, he is getting paid the same per hour but his hours are getting cut back.

But I'm just speculating.

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11/18/2025 12:45pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it...

Roczen commented a day or two ago on a WSX IG post about someone being DQ'd for not completing their site lap. Said something about it being ridiculous because the guy had a bike problem. 

Just looked and post seems to be gone so I assume it had something to do with that.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Simonson was DQ for not doing the sight lap. 

Kevin852 wrote:
That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the...

That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the riders decide to not do a light lap. 

Seems a weird rule for WSX to make, let alone enforce. 

The dude got to the line the second the gate dropped. No time to set holeshot device or nothing. He came around the side, started into his slot and the gate dropped the second he rolled up. It was almost perfect timing.

 Sucks if they dq'ed the guy for having a bike problem. It's understandable if he just said fuck it and waited on everyone else to get back. I hate to hear that. 

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11/18/2025 1:20pm

Main website still shows him on for Saturday 

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11/18/2025 2:26pm

The Roczen level of participation has been strange since the original announcement.  He was on pulp a while back and was asked if he was doing all of them since he was not listed as a wild card....he declined to answer the question.  

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11/19/2025 1:30am

Achtung !

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11/19/2025 4:56am

WSX messed up the contract.
 Roczen was locked in for 5 races, but because WSX has 3 main events, that's 3 races per event. 
Roczen realized he only had to attend 2 events to get his full payment for 5 races.

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11/19/2025 7:27am

Imagine having to pay riders just to attend your event to falsely advertise it has any prestige or world class tier capabilities.

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11/19/2025 7:31am

I thought I just felt a cold draft enter the thread.

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11/19/2025 7:32am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Imagine having to pay riders just to attend your event to falsely advertise it has any prestige or world class tier capabilities.

In business, or anything in life, building anything costs money, Bro.

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11/19/2025 8:00am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Imagine having to pay riders just to attend your event to falsely advertise it has any prestige or world class tier capabilities.

Camp332 wrote:

In business, or anything in life, building anything costs money, Bro.

Seems like a futile enterprise. After all the whole thing started as a way for the Arabs to launder/wash their captagon drug money. 

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11/19/2025 8:21am

Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may race without the start money.

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11/19/2025 8:27am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2025 8:28am

He isn’t racing smx for free either. 

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11/19/2025 8:58am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Imagine having to pay riders just to attend your event to falsely advertise it has any prestige or world class tier capabilities.

Welcome to the 21st century sporting events. No professional athlete plays for free...and why would they? 

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11/19/2025 9:08am

if WSX is gaming the system to avoid bigger payouts, then their series is basically an exhibition not unlike Paris SX or any of the other one-off SX races during our off-season.  Not saying that's what they're doing, but Kenny's cryptic responses about initially planning to race all 5, but then being reduced to 3 was weird.  

Of course, WSX is also paying big names to race their series (again - very similar to Paris SX or these other off-season races), so I'm sure they are trying to bring legitimacy to their series without going bankrupt in the process....

The fact that they felt the need to bring Ralph in to announce was the honestly the biggest turnoff for me.  He's a nice guy, but his voice is like nails on the chalkboard....

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11/19/2025 9:10am
Kevin852 wrote:
That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the...

That is a crazy rule... like why does it matter if a rider does a sight lap? I mean when it is muddy many of the riders decide to not do a light lap. 

Seems a weird rule for WSX to make, let alone enforce. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Guessing it's a safety/precautionary thing. 

Just another Safetyism enforced by The Cult of Safety. 

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11/19/2025 9:53am
DownSouth wrote:
Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may...

Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may race without the start money.

You're not wrong but professionals don't race for free. If the team isn't paying him, he'll need that income to come from somewhere else. 

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11/19/2025 11:18am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Imagine having to pay riders just to attend your event to falsely advertise it has any prestige or world class tier capabilities.

Camp332 wrote:

In business, or anything in life, building anything costs money, Bro.

"Bro", you obviously don't understand the point. If WSX was where the riders want to race because it has the best racers in the world and best venues and organization, they'd all be there without needing a direct payment bribe to show up.

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11/19/2025 11:31am

WSX should combine all the normal off season races to create their "series". Bring back the U.S. Open SX. Add Paris SX, Geneva Supercross, Aus-X, and the Vancouver SX all into 1 series. That would make more sense and cost a lot less to tie your name into those races than it would be to try and start something completely on your own. But hey, what do I know..

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11/19/2025 11:32am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2025 11:34am

Top tier pros get paid to race. Either the series, sponsors, team or all 3. It costs a lot money to attend races in the middle of fkng nowhere...basically 5 rounds none of which are near each other on the planet. You don't think racers just say, sure, I'll show in Argentina and hope I'll make $5k for a race win do you? KR got paid for a specific number of races...of which he raced. You want him to race more??? Pay him. 

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11/19/2025 12:10pm
DownSouth wrote:
Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may...

Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may race without the start money.

I don't think any sane person should race a dirtbike, professionally, for free.

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11/19/2025 12:15pm
DownSouth wrote:
Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may...

Kind of shows that it is a paycheck racing series rather than a prestigious championship. If Roczen was after the title I would think he may race without the start money.

SoCalMX70 wrote:

I don't think any sane person should race a dirtbike, professionally, for free.

Not sure anyone is saying Kenny (or anyone else) should race for free, but there's a big difference between paying for finishing positions (i.e. purse) and paying for names (prestigious riders like Kenny, Eli, Jason, etc.).  The former is the hallmark of a professional competitive series, and the latter is an exhibition race.  I think both are fine, but it seems WSX wants it both ways....IMHO

11/19/2025 12:16pm

Reminds me of that time Lorne Michaels offered the Beetles THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS to come on Saturday Night Live and perform.

When only George Harrison showed up, Lorne, the head of WSNL only gave him $1000.

So there is a history of dirty dealings like this going on not only in SX.

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