Why Sexton and Kaw will work…

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To make this quick and to be completely honest, IMO Kawasaki is obviously in a bad place right now. They need Sexton in 2026, ironically Sexton needs Kawasaki equally as much. I think it’s a match made in heaven. It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them. Will Kaw be more open to trying new parts unlike they were with Tomac??? I think so…. As Matty B likes to say…. NO CHOICE 

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I couldnt agree more. Ive been saying this since the beginning, kawis back is against the wall. I feel they will give Chase anything he needs to make this a successful partnership. Time will tell, but I think this is exactly a match made in heaven.

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"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

And he'll win on Yamaha after that.

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Mavetism wrote:

And he'll win on Yamaha after that.

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Proven rider and proven platform, they will be fine and competitive

All of this discussion about Kawasaki death and resurrection is tiresome 🥱

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11/4/2025 7:17am Edited Date/Time 11/4/2025 7:17am
zeke458 wrote:
To make this quick and to be completely honest, IMO Kawasaki is obviously in a bad place right now. They need Sexton in 2026, ironically Sexton...

To make this quick and to be completely honest, IMO Kawasaki is obviously in a bad place right now. They need Sexton in 2026, ironically Sexton needs Kawasaki equally as much. I think it’s a match made in heaven. It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them. Will Kaw be more open to trying new parts unlike they were with Tomac??? I think so…. As Matty B likes to say…. NO CHOICE 

Good points. Hopefully Sexton will feel more confident and get consistent top 2-4 finishes. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

Mavetism wrote:

And he'll win on Yamaha after that.

No, he will be a brand ambassador for Yamaha. Isn't that how it works?😉

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11/4/2025 7:27am

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

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11/4/2025 7:37am

ive never met anyone who didn't gel with the new Kawi chassis

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11/4/2025 7:44am
So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

I really hope he negotiated MXdN into the contract but Kawi has been pretty firm about their stance on it the past few seasons. 

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I think Sexton will be fine on the SX Kawi, they seem to have one of the better bikes when the updated kawi chassi came.

MX is different. Not so sure they will have that figured out for him year 1. He rides very different from Anderson and Prado so not a lot of data to go from.

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ive never met anyone who didn't gel with the new Kawi chassis

You need to meet this guy named Jorge.

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I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky until in the slot, Kawi has Showa and IF need be KYB.  I see this panning out very very good.  Kawi is not in a "bad" spot, they won with Jason, had podiums, but it didn't work out with Prado.  Chase will erase that immediately. As for Garret, I hope the dude takes his time and shows his potential. No rush, just ease in and enjoy.  Top 12 would be the goal with Top 10 overall. I like seeing the parity of top racers on different bikes and teams. 

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11/4/2025 8:29am
So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

I really hope he negotiated MXdN into the contract but Kawi has been pretty firm about their stance on it the past few seasons. 

I will say it is no a problem any more, because Decoster is not a manager any more!!!

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So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with that.  Can you imagine the blowback if they didn't support Chase to attend MXON?

 

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If he wins on the Kawasaki, is it an indictment of Prado?  How can it not be?

It 100% is - everywhere else the current Kawi 450 goes, it wins, or podiums (Ando)

Team Green is stacking up amateur championships, off road championships, world championships, etc.

The damage an airbox plug, being a year early to the new euro sound stuff OEM (all the bikes are going to get plugged up mufflers) and Prado did to the perception of a superb bike is astounding.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

Agreed, but....

He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.

He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.

He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury) on a Kawasaki. 

 

I hate to be a hater, but I feel like we pretty much know how Chase is going to perform by now. It wasn't the KTM holding him back, nor the Honda before that. 

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11/4/2025 9:16am
So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

mooch wrote:
On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with...

On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with that.  Can you imagine the blowback if they didn't support Chase to attend MXON?

 

thanks for the update on that one. Stoked.

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Falcon wrote:
Agreed, but....He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury)...

Agreed, but....

He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.

He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.

He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury) on a Kawasaki. 

 

I hate to be a hater, but I feel like we pretty much know how Chase is going to perform by now. It wasn't the KTM holding him back, nor the Honda before that. 

I don't think you're being a hater. He's heading into his sixth year in the 450 class. There's enough data to show that you'll more than likely be correct. 

I also don't think the other bikes were holding him back, and I don't think the Kawasaki will be magically better. 

At this point, we've all seen what he can do. 

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11/4/2025 9:42am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

Falcon wrote:
Agreed, but....He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury)...

Agreed, but....

He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.

He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.

He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury) on a Kawasaki. 

 

I hate to be a hater, but I feel like we pretty much know how Chase is going to perform by now. It wasn't the KTM holding him back, nor the Honda before that. 

Chase was a couple of brain-fades away from the SX championship this year. Somebody sitting out due to injury is on them; he got his first SX championship being in it to win it when Eli tore his achilles. There were several races where he "tucked the front end" or worse - but got up to finish well enough. 

Eli, Jett have had their weird days and crashes, and yes, Chase has more of them. 

EVERYBODY will be 2nd best (or worse) to Jett. Few people have beat him, and Chase is one of them. 

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Zycki11 wrote:
I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky...

I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky until in the slot, Kawi has Showa and IF need be KYB.  I see this panning out very very good.  Kawi is not in a "bad" spot, they won with Jason, had podiums, but it didn't work out with Prado.  Chase will erase that immediately. As for Garret, I hope the dude takes his time and shows his potential. No rush, just ease in and enjoy.  Top 12 would be the goal with Top 10 overall. I like seeing the parity of top racers on different bikes and teams. 

Yeah I personally think the bike is fine. But tell that to the other 300 riders trying to qualify that aren’t choosing the green one. So if you don’t think Kawasaki is in a bad spot just check the results, there’s only a handful at best in the entire night program, it might be even worse for outdoors. 

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11/4/2025 3:20pm
So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

mooch wrote:
On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with...

On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with that.  Can you imagine the blowback if they didn't support Chase to attend MXON?

 

thanks for the update on that one. Stoked.

Kellen said the same thing on the LVK podcast. Kawi knows the MXdN is important to Chase and they're fine with it. Props to Chase for still being passionate about the race. As we've seen thats not the case with the younger generation 

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11/4/2025 3:21pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

Falcon wrote:
Agreed, but....He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury)...

Agreed, but....

He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.

He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.

He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury) on a Kawasaki. 

 

I hate to be a hater, but I feel like we pretty much know how Chase is going to perform by now. It wasn't the KTM holding him back, nor the Honda before that. 

This guy gets it, all of Sextons championships have been given to him. Yah yah you gotta be there for every round, but 23 Supercross we all know that was Tomacs title, and his 24 outdoor title Eli was out with a broken leg and Jett crashed out at Hangtown. If it wasn’t for Forkner crashing out in those 250 championships we’d be talking about Forkner not Sexton. 

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11/4/2025 3:35pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

"It has to work, there’s no other option for either of them."

He won on Honda.

He won on KTM.

He'll win on Kawasaki. 

Falcon wrote:
Agreed, but....He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury)...

Agreed, but....

He'll wash the front end on a Kawasaki.

He'll be 2nd-best to Jett on a Kawasaki.

He'll win a title (*If someone sits out due to injury) on a Kawasaki. 

 

I hate to be a hater, but I feel like we pretty much know how Chase is going to perform by now. It wasn't the KTM holding him back, nor the Honda before that. 

You're not being a hater. I'm in the Chase fan club and I pretty much agree with your assessment. I will point out Eli hadnt even won a sx title at Chase's age and was being called Chokemac indoors. I dont put Chase in Eli's league though. And Eli wasn't facing anyone like Jett. But I'm just pointing out maybe it is possible for a rider to somewhat change up the script at his age

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11/4/2025 4:08pm
Zycki11 wrote:
I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky...

I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky until in the slot, Kawi has Showa and IF need be KYB.  I see this panning out very very good.  Kawi is not in a "bad" spot, they won with Jason, had podiums, but it didn't work out with Prado.  Chase will erase that immediately. As for Garret, I hope the dude takes his time and shows his potential. No rush, just ease in and enjoy.  Top 12 would be the goal with Top 10 overall. I like seeing the parity of top racers on different bikes and teams. 

zeke458 wrote:
Yeah I personally think the bike is fine. But tell that to the other 300 riders trying to qualify that aren’t choosing the green one. So...

Yeah I personally think the bike is fine. But tell that to the other 300 riders trying to qualify that aren’t choosing the green one. So if you don’t think Kawasaki is in a bad spot just check the results, there’s only a handful at best in the entire night program, it might be even worse for outdoors. 

That comes and goes with contingency. Kawi is known for a neutral platform that is predictable and manageable power. Factory Kawi is different than privateers. Economy buddy bubba Pauli has been on green his entire career damn near. 

 

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11/4/2025 4:09pm
So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He...

So why will they work? Because they need each other? I see the merit in that claim. How about something concrete: he's back on Showa. He is back on an aluminum frame. 

Only downside? No more MXoN for Chase because Kawasaki USA doesn't support it. 

mooch wrote:
On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with...

On Pulp last night, Chase said that he did tell Kawie that he wanted to race MXON in the future and apparently they are fine with that.  Can you imagine the blowback if they didn't support Chase to attend MXON?

 

I'm glad Chase wants to go to MXDN and Kawasaki stepping up and supporting that is helpful but..... I take issue with everyone expecting these manufacturers to support the race at their own expense and for the riders to come out of pocket to attend the race. Last I checked tickets for the event, Vip tickets for the event and access to the stream of the race were not free. I'm fairly confident they are making very good money on the event. Where does the money go? Looks to me like the promotors are using the "lack of patriotism" card to force the manufacturers and the riders to race this event. Where is the promotors patriotism? Why aren't they donating all the proceeds to something like road to recovery to support the sport and the individual riders? If they used the money to help smaller countries get to the event that would also be helpful. It just looks like some entities taking advantage of others. Another crappy money grab.

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Why wouldnt it work? A proven champion in his prime on the most successful 450 team on the planet.

 

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Desoto, Weinert, Mosier, Ward, Fro, RV, RC, Tomac, not to mention all the other disciplines in motorcycle racing they have won at, Kawasaki knows how to win. Do they know how to pick winning riders, maybe not so much anymore.

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11/4/2025 5:14pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2025 5:21pm
Zycki11 wrote:
I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky...

I said it from the beginning, the neutral chassis on Kawi will allow him to free up.  Honda front end biased, KTM is a little quirky until in the slot, Kawi has Showa and IF need be KYB.  I see this panning out very very good.  Kawi is not in a "bad" spot, they won with Jason, had podiums, but it didn't work out with Prado.  Chase will erase that immediately. As for Garret, I hope the dude takes his time and shows his potential. No rush, just ease in and enjoy.  Top 12 would be the goal with Top 10 overall. I like seeing the parity of top racers on different bikes and teams. 

zeke458 wrote:
Yeah I personally think the bike is fine. But tell that to the other 300 riders trying to qualify that aren’t choosing the green one. So...

Yeah I personally think the bike is fine. But tell that to the other 300 riders trying to qualify that aren’t choosing the green one. So if you don’t think Kawasaki is in a bad spot just check the results, there’s only a handful at best in the entire night program, it might be even worse for outdoors. 

This combines 250/450 but since it's the same chassis, lets do that.

There was basically no factory team the entire year, yet 4th...image 2294.png?VersionId=bjdpAgxADbmElFTqSxKw

This is while they were cleaning up in enduro racing with Red Bear scoring 10 wins, 10 podiums, a National Championship, a Regional Championship and a second.

Meanwhile also snatching the MXGP World Championship.

Kawasaki isn't in a bad spot nor do they have a bad bike - they had bad luck with Ando's health and a bad egg with Prado's... whatever Prado's problem was.

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