Jason Anderson - Thyroid Issues

10/12/2025 7:14pm
Warlock wrote:
I'm at the same point. I'm on thyroid medicine for the last 2 years. I'm probably older than you guys (69) but I  have the same...

I'm at the same point. I'm on thyroid medicine for the last 2 years. I'm probably older than you guys (69) but I  have the same tired legs, sleep more than ever and and a loss of any endurance that I  had..My doctor never said anything about all the effects and symptoms you guys mentioned, he just prescribed it from a blood test. I wonder if I  need a bigger dose? I'll bring it up when I see him in a couple weeks, but you're right it sucks. I've never been like this before and was just blaming it on getting old.

jps256 wrote:

Did you find the thyroid meds helped at all?

Gravel wrote:
If I miss too many doses my energy levels fall off noticeably. A day or two, no big deal, 4-5 and it’s getting worse, more than...

If I miss too many doses my energy levels fall off noticeably. A day or two, no big deal, 4-5 and it’s getting worse, more than that and I’m struggling to get through the day. 

Not for mothing but why would you miss your medx for 4-5 days? I can see one day. Its thats a personal question, please disregard 

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Man I was 25 and this sounds so similar to my experience.  I went from running and rowing plus motos and being in incredibly shape to...

Man I was 25 and this sounds so similar to my experience.  I went from running and rowing plus motos and being in incredibly shape to being extremely fatigued just walking up stairs.  It was insane and I felt crazy.  Took the doctors months to diagnose me and they just thought I was an anxious wreck (I was) but my arms couldn’t move the way my brain was telling them to.  Strange experience 

mxbrian15 wrote:

Yes. Sounds exactly the same. Took doctors forever to diagnose me (months) since it’s not as prevalent in males as it is in females.

OwenJakes wrote:

Does this kind of thing come on all of the sudden or does it "warm up" and give warning signs?

I didn’t really have warning signs. I’m sure there was something, but it kinda hit me out no where.

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10/12/2025 9:17pm
jps256 wrote:

Did you find the thyroid meds helped at all?

Gravel wrote:
If I miss too many doses my energy levels fall off noticeably. A day or two, no big deal, 4-5 and it’s getting worse, more than...

If I miss too many doses my energy levels fall off noticeably. A day or two, no big deal, 4-5 and it’s getting worse, more than that and I’m struggling to get through the day. 

Not for mothing but why would you miss your medx for 4-5 days? I can see one day. Its thats a personal question, please disregard 

No worries, I’ve forgotten to pack them on trips before and missed 7-10 days. I’m on a medium dose so I’m not at risk of death or anything, but it’s definitely noticeable when I don’t take them. 

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hopgrower wrote:
I'm sure that the health issues really suck, but I also think he left out the severe personal life problems that have been alluded to.  He...

I'm sure that the health issues really suck, but I also think he left out the severe personal life problems that have been alluded to.  He may also be completely stressed out personally.

As someone who grew up with this in their family, i can tell you the mental side of it is worse than any of the physical side of it. 

When you wake up every day feeling like someone you arent, it takes its toll. 

 

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10/13/2025 8:06am
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Is there any other professional sport known to man that has as many of its premier athletes get EBV as professional motocross?  NFL, MLB, NBA, Soccer...

Is there any other professional sport known to man that has as many of its premier athletes get EBV as professional motocross?  NFL, MLB, NBA, Soccer, Rugby, Tennis, 

While I agree to an extent none of those sports that you listed are endurance sports.

40 minutes of 180+ heart rate sustained while wrestling a 225lb motorcycle is a bit different than standing in an outfield or playing for 4 seconds and resting for 30 seconds between snaps. 

It's closer to cycling, swimming, distance running, ect. All sports where EBV is more common.

 

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10/13/2025 8:38am Edited Date/Time 10/13/2025 8:39am

Any of you guys that are Hypo or subclinical hypo thyroid and your doc has you on T4 and your symptoms aren’t improving you probably have a conversion issue to the active hormone T3. This is what happened to me and it was military doctors that initially diagnosed me but refused to change my meds because the endocrinologist still use books from like the 1850s for hormone therapy. My current civilian doctor who is a sports performance specialist was the first to bring up my Thyroid Signaling Hormone (TSH) being high with normal to High T4 but low T3… he added 5mcg T3 first and it improved with the T4, 3 months later after blood work we bumped to 10mcg daily and dropped the T4 and i’ve been stable on that for about 3 years. I don’t feel perfect but at 52 years old and 33 years of combat arms military service i doubt i ever will know what perfect or normal feels like! 😂

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Aldon has stated in interviews he's very into power to weight ratio so the lighter a rider can be in his eyes, the greater power to weight ratio as far as on the motorcycle. i.e, A 150 lb guy versus a 190 lb guy, the bike will be faster. This line of thinking and diet restrictions obviously worked well for guys like RC who was chubby, and Mookie who is a bigger guy naturally. But Dungey at his peak was rail thin. Musquin was so skinny and had no shoulders, I was shocked he could hang on to a 450. Roczen has stated many times the diet didn't work for him and he wasn't getting enough calories. I think we are seeing it with AP right now with some of his health issues. Naturally thin guys don't need to be restricting calories that much. No, I'm not a trainer, and yes Aldon has won many titles with his riders so he clearly knows what he is doing. I am however naturally thin and have tried calorie restrictive diets and eating really clean and I'm usually tired and don't have the energy. I rarely drink Coke or sodas, but I usually take one to the track and have it in between motos or sessions and it does make a difference. 

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10/13/2025 9:48am
heard this in an interview in june and mentioned it before.  The dude wanted his privacy and didn’t think he owed an explanation to folks but...

heard this in an interview in june and mentioned it before.  The dude wanted his privacy and didn’t think he owed an explanation to folks but has now said publicly that thyroid issues caused his early season stuff.  

I myself suffer from an under active thyroid and it can be tough just to walk a few miles let alone race at this level


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The Thyrod gland affects Testosterone levels, and some Thyroid issues such as an underactive Thyroid gland can cause lower than normal Testosterone levels. If your Doctor has not mentioned this, I would ask them about it and ask for a Testosterone test.

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10/13/2025 9:57am
hopgrower wrote:
I'm sure that the health issues really suck, but I also think he left out the severe personal life problems that have been alluded to.  He...

I'm sure that the health issues really suck, but I also think he left out the severe personal life problems that have been alluded to.  He may also be completely stressed out personally.

philG wrote:
As someone who grew up with this in their family, i can tell you the mental side of it is worse than any of the physical...

As someone who grew up with this in their family, i can tell you the mental side of it is worse than any of the physical side of it. 

When you wake up every day feeling like someone you arent, it takes its toll. 

 

Yep. As someone who has dealt with it for almost 20 years, that's one of the worst parts. It really can start to mess with you mentally.

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10/13/2025 10:28am
I feel like this is something that could be partially an issue from being at bakers factory. I've known a few guys who at professional and...

I feel like this is something that could be partially an issue from being at bakers factory. I've known a few guys who at professional and at Olympic levels that have had issues that were traced back to over training and improper recovery. That one thing ive heard from a couple people around the baker factory is the tight nutrition lines causing some health issues. Know a few wrestlers and fighters that would fall in line with this.

They’re too frail. Plain and simple his diet is dumb. 

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10/13/2025 11:33am
aees wrote:
2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour...

2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. 

We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour riding mx. So one hour riding, 1h cardio or gym would put up a deficit of 2300-2600. That in addition to the 2k needed as base. Thats 4500 per day needed just to stay at current form.

Nerve system I agree with is an issue. I think we do to much 20-30min motos, in combo with eating to strict. 

Other elite sports, max 45-60min zon 5 per week. MX? Like 3-4h depending on how much you ride and race. It's not healthy doing that year upon year.

1,200 calories per hour?  That sounds high to me.  

Supposedly, soccer players only burn about 850 per hour.  I can't imagine MX is that much higher. 

https://fitnessvolt.com/calories-burned-playing-soccer-calculator/

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10/13/2025 12:04pm
aees wrote:
2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour...

2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. 

We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour riding mx. So one hour riding, 1h cardio or gym would put up a deficit of 2300-2600. That in addition to the 2k needed as base. Thats 4500 per day needed just to stay at current form.

Nerve system I agree with is an issue. I think we do to much 20-30min motos, in combo with eating to strict. 

Other elite sports, max 45-60min zon 5 per week. MX? Like 3-4h depending on how much you ride and race. It's not healthy doing that year upon year.

RichieW13 wrote:

1,200 calories per hour?  That sounds high to me.  

Supposedly, soccer players only burn about 850 per hour.  I can't imagine MX is that much higher. 

https://fitnessvolt.com/calories-burned-playing-soccer-calculator/

I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could easily be 1200k

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10/13/2025 1:04pm
aees wrote:
2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour...

2k calories less, each rider would lose 16-20 pounds per month compared to some one eating 4500 and assuming same burn. 

We burn 1200-1500 calories per hour riding mx. So one hour riding, 1h cardio or gym would put up a deficit of 2300-2600. That in addition to the 2k needed as base. Thats 4500 per day needed just to stay at current form.

Nerve system I agree with is an issue. I think we do to much 20-30min motos, in combo with eating to strict. 

Other elite sports, max 45-60min zon 5 per week. MX? Like 3-4h depending on how much you ride and race. It's not healthy doing that year upon year.

RichieW13 wrote:

1,200 calories per hour?  That sounds high to me.  

Supposedly, soccer players only burn about 850 per hour.  I can't imagine MX is that much higher. 

https://fitnessvolt.com/calories-burned-playing-soccer-calculator/

joshd wrote:
I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could...

I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could easily be 1200k

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not as helpful as the mfg's of these things lead you to believe.  

Not saying you arent burning a ton - you are, but You need a metabolic cart to get actual cal expenditure. 

Agree with the military guy about T3 for people not responding to T4/synthroid. Get checked for T3 and reverse T3. 

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RichieW13 wrote:

1,200 calories per hour?  That sounds high to me.  

Supposedly, soccer players only burn about 850 per hour.  I can't imagine MX is that much higher. 

https://fitnessvolt.com/calories-burned-playing-soccer-calculator/

joshd wrote:
I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could...

I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could easily be 1200k

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not...

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not as helpful as the mfg's of these things lead you to believe.  

Not saying you arent burning a ton - you are, but You need a metabolic cart to get actual cal expenditure. 

Agree with the military guy about T3 for people not responding to T4/synthroid. Get checked for T3 and reverse T3. 

Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about 300 cals in an hour. 

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Healthy Ando wins a race, stamp it

Healthy Ando with a holeshot wins a race, stamp it

I think this minor adjustment was needed...  I hope he's 100% and gives us some of that that old school 2022 Ando.

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10/13/2025 3:28pm
joshd wrote:
I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could...

I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could easily be 1200k

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not...

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not as helpful as the mfg's of these things lead you to believe.  

Not saying you arent burning a ton - you are, but You need a metabolic cart to get actual cal expenditure. 

Agree with the military guy about T3 for people not responding to T4/synthroid. Get checked for T3 and reverse T3. 

joshd wrote:
Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about...

Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about 300 cals in an hour. 

Yes. Ive burned 1K in an hour on various pieces of cardio equipment. An hour of moto would burn serious calories 

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10/13/2025 4:32pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2025 4:39am
joshd wrote:
I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could...

I have burned over 5k calories in a day at the practice track according to my watch. I could see where a 30 min moto could easily be 1200k

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not...

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not as helpful as the mfg's of these things lead you to believe.  

Not saying you arent burning a ton - you are, but You need a metabolic cart to get actual cal expenditure. 

Agree with the military guy about T3 for people not responding to T4/synthroid. Get checked for T3 and reverse T3. 

joshd wrote:
Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about...

Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about 300 cals in an hour. 

The gizmos give an estimate based on your weight, age, sex, and pulse.

They also factor in an estimate for your basal metabolic rate, calories burned by being alive and keeping your body thermoregulated.

As you get in better shape you actually burn fewer cals during the same workouts, but your basal metabolic rate goes up to support an increase in muscle mass and recovery.

I think it's in the ball park and gives people a general idea of their caloric requirements even if the accuracy is overstated.  

Hormones are a much bigger part of the puzzle than calories. If hormones are functioning correctly then a person will cease being hungry at the point they are nourished. Combined with nourishing food, the system thrives.  Excessive fat is accumulated when hormones are disordered, as well as low energy, poor sleep, dysregulated mood, basically everything already covered.

If I was helping a friend trying to lose weight or get in shape, I would focus 95% on hormonal health and 5% on exercise.

Some common things that can dysregulate hormonal health:

Industrially processed food and drinks, poor sleep, over training / physical stress, mental stress, chemical exposure, blue light after dusk, electro magnetic radiation (wireless devices like phones and wifi).

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Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not...

Don't believe any of the wearables. They exist to take your money and data - and make you dependent. Sleep score, hrv, most data is not as helpful as the mfg's of these things lead you to believe.  

Not saying you arent burning a ton - you are, but You need a metabolic cart to get actual cal expenditure. 

Agree with the military guy about T3 for people not responding to T4/synthroid. Get checked for T3 and reverse T3. 

joshd wrote:
Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about...

Are they even in the ball park? I really only use mine for heart rate. I will say it’s consistent. Any gym workout I burn about 300 cals in an hour. 

3strokemx wrote:
The gizmos give an estimate based on your weight, age, sex, and pulse.They also factor in an estimate for your basal metabolic rate, calories burned by...

The gizmos give an estimate based on your weight, age, sex, and pulse.

They also factor in an estimate for your basal metabolic rate, calories burned by being alive and keeping your body thermoregulated.

As you get in better shape you actually burn fewer cals during the same workouts, but your basal metabolic rate goes up to support an increase in muscle mass and recovery.

I think it's in the ball park and gives people a general idea of their caloric requirements even if the accuracy is overstated.  

Hormones are a much bigger part of the puzzle than calories. If hormones are functioning correctly then a person will cease being hungry at the point they are nourished. Combined with nourishing food, the system thrives.  Excessive fat is accumulated when hormones are disordered, as well as low energy, poor sleep, dysregulated mood, basically everything already covered.

If I was helping a friend trying to lose weight or get in shape, I would focus 95% on hormonal health and 5% on exercise.

Some common things that can dysregulate hormonal health:

Industrially processed food and drinks, poor sleep, over training / physical stress, mental stress, chemical exposure, blue light after dusk, electro magnetic radiation (wireless devices like phones and wifi).

Makes a lot of sense. Thanks 

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