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To add to that, Chase also rode the KTM before he signed and was happy with that too.
He gets paid as long as he tries.
So he tried the bare minimum because both parties soured relationship.
You going to give a 2 week notice at a job and bust your ass for those next two weeks?
Last day on the job you think you are still being productive?
That should be a basic principle everyone understands instead he’s a quitter.
2 sides always.
The difference is that one (Kawi) kept trying, the other (Prado) took the coward’s way out and quit…repeatedly.
He isn’t a bank teller or a Subway employee. He is a professional racer that has additional commitments to other sponsors. You don’t just show up. Not how it works. But hey, you can welcome him back. Just don’t be upset or surprised when many others do not.
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What are you trying to say?
It’s an occupation. Might be this great Factory Kawi contract.
It’s been a job for Prado since his youth.
He didn’t like his new job. Figured he might as well give a “2 week notice”. Not an actual 2 weeks.
That doesn’t make sense to you?
Subway, bank teller or some guy that makes money riding a motorcycle which a VERY small % who are capable.
Don’t let your fandom cloud.
Exactly! Eli and Chase both knew they were leaving, but continued to ride hard. That's a true pro!
The stage is set for failure or success. I’m open to receive this kid in a positive light, as more than likely most of us are. After all no one has died , it’s 2 wheeled motor sport ,not life and death. It’s in his hands to change the narrative. I personally would love to see him change it in his favor in a Big Way.
I might give you he isn't great, but he is Good at SX, I mean he won a fricking heat. Does that mean everyone else in that heat is poop. Yeah sure it was a mudder, but what evs.
Then he hurt himself. Does that make him crap? I mean Tomac hurt himself, Jett hurt himself. Are they crap?
Yeah he won't be the top in his team, unless it's Tedder, then maybe 50/50 with Justin
Why don’t these top guys have clauses in their contracts along the lines of:
We pay you a HUGE salary to be in the top five.
If you’re 6th-10th we deduct 50%.
If you’re 11th+ = no pay.
Prado wouldn’t have dragged his ass then would he?
Wasn't it reported they wouldn't let Prado run a scoop tire because he wasn't ready to be at the front. If true imagine telling a world champion that who is one of the best starters and being serious. Too me I feel like that was the final down hill moment for their relationship. Stuff seemed to really sour after that.
I’m going to need to see a legit source on that accusation. Having Oscar basically live at Club MX to work on getting the bike better but not giving him a scoop are contradictory.
He got plenty of good starts. I’m quite confident he was on a scoop.
I remember that at the start of the outdoors but I thought it was because Prado didn’t want to run it, not that he wasn’t allowed.
This would make more sense. I remember the source being from one of the MX review shows. Its been a minute so I definitely don't remember which one. If thats the case Ill take the L.
I’d imagine Prado will run the Baker program at Redbull KTM? No way they let him do his own thing right?
This is brilliant in theory, but you’d have to have some pretty iron clad clauses that protect the rider in the instance their finishing position is at no fault of their own doing. Which in Prado’s case was allegedly the bike (at least at the start of outdoors it was). “You didn’t finish in X position, we’re docking your pay” is countered with “you didn’t give me the equipment required to run up front”. This is why they have performance bonuses that aren’t their salary.
It’s not a contract where there is a deliverable; it’s much closer to being an employee. The job is to race (along with promotional duties etc) and get paid to do it. Obviously winning is the goal and there is a bonus structure to cater for that.
It’s possible that Prado’s contract had some sort of early exit penalty but if that was the case I’m certain we would have heard about that already rather than just rumours of Kawi and/or Monster wanting to be compensated. Now with the latest reports that the split will be announced next week it seems much more like everyone has agreed to separate and there’s no fee or compensation involved.
To make that workable you’d have to then add a slew of causes to cater for all the genuine exceptions and it would end up unworkable.
No one would sign that contract.
Pit Row
Turns out he wasn’t ready to be at the front. Finishing over 90 seconds behind the leaders proved so.
I know what you’re saying, I thought I remember Lewis talking about it but remembered it being that way so I could have it wrong as well. I feel like it would’ve been a bigger story though if the narrative was that Kawasaki told him no to running the scoop tire when nearly everyone else was.
Doesn't matter whether he was ready or not. How many times a season do we hear how you need to keep putting yourself into good positions at the front. Not saying the story line would have magically changed.
I'm just talking about the hole he is going to be climbing out of. If the first race if the year was motocross, Jorge would be able to build momentum. But, he's going to show up at SX and best case he'll be running 5-10. Meanwhile if Chase is podium and winning with the team Jorge was shitting on, it's just going to be rough for him.
You know the story line in the press all year long is going to be, was it Kawi or was it Jorge that was the problem?
That won’t apply to Prado for SX.
He still gets a free pass learning SX for a couple years, if ever wins in SX.
But that’s all okay because most years we get 4-6 different winners at most.
Now when MX starts next year we should expect Prado to be running with front runners.
If not, then the experiment didn’t end as originally planned (which is the norm for all but one) and eating “crow” will be normal.
I personally agree with you and I think most people do. But, last year it looked like Jorge expected himself to be upfront. He would ride a wide bike, trying to keep faster riders behind him. And, he was riding over his head, which eventually got him hurt.
So, I think it will take a toll on him. You know how it is when you're not getting the results you expect from yourself. It wears down your confidence.
100%. SX in his mind he’s allowed to not win.
In MX, is where he will want to add some spice to his crow if he’s not constantly top 3
The biggest question in my mind has become how Eli and Jorge will get along. I do not know either man personally, but from my observations, ET does not seem to enjoy non professional behaviors. Jorge was the poster child for that type of behavior last year. Eli stays to himself for the most part, so there may be no issue at all, but it will be interesting to see.
Yeah I don’t think Eli will have any issues there. The closest he will likely get to any of it is media members asking him questions about Jorge.
Some of these takes are crazy. I feel like some of you guys have genuinely never been in a high stress relationship in your life. Whether it’s correct is irrelevant, but Jorge perceived that his career and future were jeopardized and made strong reactions. I support the guy just as much as before.
He did what he thought was best, and was strong about it. Meanwhile fat guys online are mad about it😂
Hey man, I agree with you, didn’t have to call me fat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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