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ML512
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You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.

People, just stop being dickheads to each other, or the forum is going 100% no-politics.

Left, right, liberal, republican, everything in between. Stupid narratives of who's at fault, there are users from all sides that are just being garbage human beings and can't help themselves. Go touch grass.

- ML

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AZ35
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10/5/2025 9:40am

Test.... (:

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kyle_274
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10/5/2025 10:12am

100% no politics will be amazing! 

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10/5/2025 11:35am
ML512 wrote:
You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.People, just stop being dickheads...

You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.

People, just stop being dickheads to each other, or the forum is going 100% no-politics.

Left, right, liberal, republican, everything in between. Stupid narratives of who's at fault, there are users from all sides that are just being garbage human beings and can't help themselves. Go touch grass.

- ML

If we could simply agree that all politicians are liars, and that there are too many people who get most of their current events knowledge from headlines written specifically to enrage, I think we'd be a lot better off. That and not engaging in insulting, labelling, dehumanizing, or any other name calling of people we disagree with.....

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Last Braaap
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10/5/2025 11:42am

Testing 1,2,3..

APLMAN99
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10/5/2025 12:08pm
ML512 wrote:
You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.People, just stop being dickheads...

You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.

People, just stop being dickheads to each other, or the forum is going 100% no-politics.

Left, right, liberal, republican, everything in between. Stupid narratives of who's at fault, there are users from all sides that are just being garbage human beings and can't help themselves. Go touch grass.

- ML

If we could simply agree that all politicians are liars, and that there are too many people who get most of their current events knowledge from...

If we could simply agree that all politicians are liars, and that there are too many people who get most of their current events knowledge from headlines written specifically to enrage, I think we'd be a lot better off. That and not engaging in insulting, labelling, dehumanizing, or any other name calling of people we disagree with.....

The 'news' in our society mostly comes from Conflict Entrepreneurs............

That includes 'independent journalists' whose income is based almost completely on clicks, likes, follows, etc.   

One thing I would suggest for anyone, no matter where you are on the political spectrum, is to avoid any sort of video or link with words like "destroys", "annihilates", "embarrasses", or something similar in the title.  When you see that, you are not digesting news you are almost always clicking on a piece of propaganda that will offer you come more confirmation bias.  

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Chance1216
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10/5/2025 1:19pm

ML…. While I do appreciate the fact you do your best as a moderator, are you really surprised? 

Though they become monotonous, I’m not pushing against political threads. 

I really don’t think it’s right you clipped any of these guys. Many of us told you politics were a bad idea when you first allowed them. Now, because they did exactly what was said from the beginning, it’s their fault? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Non-Moto-Posting-Guidlines,1399607

 

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Brad460
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10/5/2025 1:39pm
Chance1216 wrote:
ML…. While I do appreciate the fact you do your best as a moderator, are you really surprised? Though they become monotonous, I’m not pushing against political...

ML…. While I do appreciate the fact you do your best as a moderator, are you really surprised? 

Though they become monotonous, I’m not pushing against political threads. 

I really don’t think it’s right you clipped any of these guys. Many of us told you politics were a bad idea when you first allowed them. Now, because they did exactly what was said from the beginning, it’s their fault? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Non-Moto-Posting-Guidlines,1399607

 

Politics in moderation is ok..not 10 different threads running at the same time..

It’s like every time some half newsworthy event occurs the same folks have to start a new thread.

No reason why grown ass men can’t moderate themselves a bit more..geezus.

 

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randbagger
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10/5/2025 3:50pm

Nancy says just say no to drugs. We are each responsible for our ownperdon. It is up to each of us to just step back and say nothing if they do not have anything good to say. 

borg
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10/5/2025 6:09pm
ToolMaker wrote:

Testing 1,2,3..

If ML dumps politics, it won't be because of you. Some people just have to be dickheads. 

 

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JAFO92
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10/5/2025 8:58pm Edited Date/Time 10/6/2025 8:28am
ML512 wrote:
You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.People, just stop being dickheads...

You know, I just let a bunch of users back in off temp suspension, and I just re-suspended most of those users.

People, just stop being dickheads to each other, or the forum is going 100% no-politics.

Left, right, liberal, republican, everything in between. Stupid narratives of who's at fault, there are users from all sides that are just being garbage human beings and can't help themselves. Go touch grass.

- ML

When you make a decision like this and make a subject about it...tell us who got banned and for how long.

 

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Kenny Banyan
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10/5/2025 9:33pm Edited Date/Time 10/6/2025 11:27am

 I do my own clean up. If I make a comment and it leads to members coming back at me with swearing and vulgarity. I go back a delete my original comment which deletes the comments they quoted me on ,and I move on. I don’t come here to get nasty, I like to poke a little fun and have people do the same. Nothing wrong with discussions where you don’t agree. Just show respect and 98% of the time it’s shown back. Every now and then ,if someone makes a great comment give um the thumbs up ,but also quote them and tell them you like their thoughts. People like a pat on the back every now and then.

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olds cool
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10/6/2025 4:44am Edited Date/Time 10/6/2025 4:45am

I knew that “feeding the Palestinian children” thread wouldn’t make the flight back from des Nations…😂

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LoudLove
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10/6/2025 5:23am

Here’s a simple litmus test:  would you be okay if your friends and family read your posts?  If not, then maybe it’s time to rethink your approach.  It is possible to engage in debates without resorting to insults and derogatory language.  

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Gworm
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10/6/2025 5:35am
LoudLove wrote:
Here’s a simple litmus test:  would you be okay if your friends and family read your posts?  If not, then maybe it’s time to rethink your...

Here’s a simple litmus test:  would you be okay if your friends and family read your posts?  If not, then maybe it’s time to rethink your approach.  It is possible to engage in debates without resorting to insults and derogatory language.  

I try to base mine on if my grandkids read them. 

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disbanded
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10/6/2025 6:41am

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

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SEEMEFIRST
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10/6/2025 6:43am
disbanded wrote:
There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

No, it isn't.

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LoudLove
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10/6/2025 7:20am
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There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No, it isn't.

I see what you did there…😆

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10/6/2025 8:28am
disbanded wrote:
There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

Some come to argue, others want to debate. Two very different things and the ones that come to argue always seem to devolve the conversation into an argument. 

Modern politics is not a rational enterprise and borders on the absurd. I like to debate, but I also realize that to think we’re all going to come to some neatly packaged resolution is, well absurd. You can’t rationalize what is inherently irrational. This struggle is where many start to become unhinged, myself included at times. 

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vtnewb
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10/6/2025 9:43am

Thank you!

30minmotos
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10/6/2025 10:23am

Why can’t we just shred!


When is vital going to have a vital ride day like vurb does??

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Piston Slap
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10/6/2025 11:10am

Check 1, 2, 3

10/6/2025 12:29pm Edited Date/Time 10/6/2025 12:30pm
disbanded wrote:
There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

Some come to argue, others want to debate. Two very different things and the ones that come to argue always seem to devolve the conversation into...

Some come to argue, others want to debate. Two very different things and the ones that come to argue always seem to devolve the conversation into an argument. 

Modern politics is not a rational enterprise and borders on the absurd. I like to debate, but I also realize that to think we’re all going to come to some neatly packaged resolution is, well absurd. You can’t rationalize what is inherently irrational. This struggle is where many start to become unhinged, myself included at times. 

Believe it or not, I've learned quite a few things (other than some people are just ass hOles, I already knew that) Most of the people here are much older and wiser and have a lot to offer. Yes the incessant agitators get very annoying but I guess we have to put up with that. However it devolves pretty fast when someone gets backed into a corner with no good supporting information and they start name calling and getting just pissy. Then they get called out and down hill it goes. I didn't see the thread that this was about but I've a pretty good belief that's how it went down. I personally have had good conversation with people that are about as far opposite my opinion as you can get. Oh well, another day, another click. Maybe, ML could let someone help him moderate and it wouldn't get so absurd before the mod steps in.

TM

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motorick5052
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10/6/2025 2:30pm
disbanded wrote:
There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No, it isn't.

LoudLove wrote:

I see what you did there…😆

IMG 0763

🤪 👍❗️

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sumdood
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10/6/2025 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 10/6/2025 2:41pm

I usually try to stay out of the controversial threads, and when I don't and do jump in half the time my posts disappear anyway. I jumped into the they them one and poof, posts disappeared. The good news is I really don't give a shit, there was a comment that pissed me off and I was looking for an argument, so it actually did me a favor. Pups, memes, word association, recipes and shit that looks fun or entertaining I'm opening. Anything that looks remotely political I'm passing over from now on. I've had some curveballs in real life lately and it's made me second guess where and what I want to spend my time and energy on. Arguing online didn't make my list. Hope you're all having a good day   😎  

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motorick5052
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10/6/2025 2:56pm
sumdood wrote:
I usually try to stay out of the controversial threads, and when I don't and do jump in half the time my posts disappear anyway. I...

I usually try to stay out of the controversial threads, and when I don't and do jump in half the time my posts disappear anyway. I jumped into the they them one and poof, posts disappeared. The good news is I really don't give a shit, there was a comment that pissed me off and I was looking for an argument, so it actually did me a favor. Pups, memes, word association, recipes and shit that looks fun or entertaining I'm opening. Anything that looks remotely political I'm passing over from now on. I've had some curveballs in real life lately and it's made me second guess where and what I want to spend my time and energy on. Arguing online didn't make my list. Hope you're all having a good day   😎  

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AMEN Brother! 👍

Arguing about ANYTHING on the internet is THE textbook definition of a monumental WASTE OF TIME! 
If you find yourself considering “arguing” online, you need to seriously reevaluate your priorities in life and find a much more productive use of your time! (Like stabbing yourself in the eye with a fork, etc! 🤪)  

Life is TOO SHORT to waste one precious moment arguing with a donkey on the internet! 😎 👍❗️

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JAFO92
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10/6/2025 4:06pm
disbanded wrote:
There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for...

There's a reason I try to stay out of Non-Moto the majority of the time.  Hell, there was a time where I didn't visit Non-Moto for several years!  It never really changes.  It's where people go to argue.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No, it isn't.

Hilarious.  The writers from all three late night talk shows cant write gold as good as this right here.

Karl truly missed his calling.   

 

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Zycki11
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10/6/2025 4:17pm

“When conversation stops, that’s when violence occurs” debate is good. Blindly being an asshole is not. Spot the difference with common sense folks 

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10/6/2025 7:17pm

So Teamgreen and Joey  got banned again?

it'd be nice to know rather then have a random disappearance leaving us all wondering.

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