Prado drama continuing?

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Doesn’t matter, he finished 6th in the point standings. The unofficial benchmark for having a factory ride is finishing in the top 10 in points. Usually...

Doesn’t matter, he finished 6th in the point standings. The unofficial benchmark for having a factory ride is finishing in the top 10 in points. Usually if you finish up in the top 10 you’ll keep your ride for awhile at least.

Indy mxer wrote:
Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead...

Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead of Prado.

He would've been lucky to get 10th. Prado was hired to compete for podiums, not ride around and get beat by privateers, and as you say finish in the top 10. Kawi and Monster didn't pay him all that money just to be top 10. The hired him to be on the box. And he was an epic failure by any measure.

I’m going to assume you don’t take this same view of Webb winning the SX title with Jett and Eli out injured, right? 

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

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Not a huge Deegan fan, but I have to admit that's pretty funny!

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Hahha that was funny! Dr.Dre and Prado Smile  

Is Deegan38 managed by some social media manager or is it actually the Deegans behind the keyboard? 

Anyway, love it!

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Indy mxer wrote:
Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead...

Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead of Prado.

He would've been lucky to get 10th. Prado was hired to compete for podiums, not ride around and get beat by privateers, and as you say finish in the top 10. Kawi and Monster didn't pay him all that money just to be top 10. The hired him to be on the box. And he was an epic failure by any measure.

I’m going to assume you don’t take this same view of Webb winning the SX title with Jett and Eli out injured, right? 

Indy mxer wrote:

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

By your reasoning Reed would have no titles and neither would Sexton and Webb shouldn’t have won the SX championship this year, Very Flawed reasoning there fella.💯😂

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Yes, KHI international has money to burn if you look at their relatively tiny investment in moto compared to corporate. That is not the point. Divisions have their budget, goals and objectives. They also have this divisional "black eye" - Prado - to explain to their mgmt chain. IMO I think the shock to corporate is over and they want to move on, just not at any cost. Disclose the problem to corporate, financially reserve the budget, and execute a new plan: Prado on the bench at Kawasaki - kept from racing any other brand because of his contract. No longer embarrassing the brand on the track, no longer aggravating the team. They set terms for Prado's settlement to leave and hold until he meets it. The worse has already happened to Kawasaki, no more urgency to move on. It's contained now. 

The worth to Prado's career to move on is more important to him than Kawasaki's desire to move on. Kawasaki already has Chase and adding a "b" rider after that can take place any time with a move up from PC. Kawasaki has endured the worst of the Prado situation, but Prado's career is going by and he should be really motivated to settle and move on. 

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I’m going to assume you don’t take this same view of Webb winning the SX title with Jett and Eli out injured, right? 

Indy mxer wrote:

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

By your reasoning Reed would have no titles and neither would Sexton and Webb shouldn’t have won the SX championship this year, Very Flawed reasoning there...

By your reasoning Reed would have no titles and neither would Sexton and Webb shouldn’t have won the SX championship this year, Very Flawed reasoning there fella.💯😂

 Big difference, the riders you mentioned rode hard and gave max effort. Prado did the opposite. He quit, plain and simple. 

Again, apples and oranges "fella".

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Indy mxer wrote:
Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead...

Please stop with the 6th place finish bullshit! CW, AP, and JA were out.  KR didn't ride the outdoors. All of them would have finished ahead of Prado.

He would've been lucky to get 10th. Prado was hired to compete for podiums, not ride around and get beat by privateers, and as you say finish in the top 10. Kawi and Monster didn't pay him all that money just to be top 10. The hired him to be on the box. And he was an epic failure by any measure.

I’m going to assume you don’t take this same view of Webb winning the SX title with Jett and Eli out injured, right? 

Indy mxer wrote:

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

Did Sexton luck into the title when both Tomac and Webb were suddenly injured?

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Indy mxer wrote:

Not a huge Deegan fan, but I have to admit that's pretty funny!

really funny coming from a two time SMX "WORLD CHAMPION"... LMAOOOOOO..... the deegs are a chit show that keep on giving!! 

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Indy mxer wrote:

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

By your reasoning Reed would have no titles and neither would Sexton and Webb shouldn’t have won the SX championship this year, Very Flawed reasoning there...

By your reasoning Reed would have no titles and neither would Sexton and Webb shouldn’t have won the SX championship this year, Very Flawed reasoning there fella.💯😂

Indy mxer wrote:

 Big difference, the riders you mentioned rode hard and gave max effort. Prado did the opposite. He quit, plain and simple. 

Again, apples and oranges "fella".

I disagree. At least you calmed down 💯👍🏻😂

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Indy mxer wrote:

Not a huge Deegan fan, but I have to admit that's pretty funny!

Yes! Deegan The world champ of the world of América. 

 

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I’m going to assume you don’t take this same view of Webb winning the SX title with Jett and Eli out injured, right? 

Indy mxer wrote:

Nope. Prado lucked into 6th place even though he was getting beat by privateers and quiting on the team. Webb rides hard.

Apples and ornages.

Did Sexton luck into the title when both Tomac and Webb were suddenly injured?

    Why Yes, Yes he did !

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10/3/2025 8:40am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2025 8:58pm
yak651 wrote:

Until you point out all the riders that didn’t finish the season or missed a bunch of races

Doesn’t matter, he finished 6th in the point standings. The unofficial benchmark for having a factory ride is finishing in the top 10 in points. Usually...

Doesn’t matter, he finished 6th in the point standings. The unofficial benchmark for having a factory ride is finishing in the top 10 in points. Usually if you finish up in the top 10 you’ll keep your ride for awhile at least.

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As the top dog? Without seeing data I can only guess, but my gut feel is you don't maintain the top dog spot on a team...

As the top dog? Without seeing data I can only guess, but my gut feel is you don't maintain the top dog spot on a team that way, and Prado negotiated the salary to be #1 for 3 years.

I would also imagine you can make a case that while Prado rode around at 95% in MX avoiding injury, others flirting with top 5 or podiums got injured.

As a whole, with his very poor placing, negative team comments, not qualifying shenanigan, and all Anderson's podiums on the same bike I don't think Prado has a compelling argument.

Good points, you may very well be correct. We’re making stabs at the specifics that might be in his contract.obviously when Kawi brought him on board, they were thinking that Prado would be in at very least, contention for a title. But as far as specifics from a legal standpoint, did he actually fulfill his obligations of the contract that he signed. I have zero idea. Does anyone at this point. 

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Afraid to admit I lol’d reading this

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It's truly extraordinary to think that upon seeing a post by Deegan taking a shot at a multi time world champion my first thought is "Deegan is really punching down here". 

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Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all...

Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all other team negotiations and stay with the Kawasaki. Put in a real effort to race the bike (so as not to induce a performance clause), but make the team so miserable that they want nothing more than to pay out the contracted amount to make him leave. Then take a deal with another team, if any US based teams would actually offer one at that point. That's the real gamble.

Prado actually has all the juice unless he wants to lose a bunch of money to leave on his own accord.

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You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall...

You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall operations. 

Prado is gambling with his long term career reputation and currency. His best bet is to take some accountability, settle on a middle ground $ amount, payment plan etc and hope is ass he does well on the KTM. He pretty much has to be on the podium regularly because he's already shown when he put in the effort on the kawi he could get 5th. 

avidchimp wrote:
Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting...

Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting him leave and washing their hands is absolutely leverage.

The only way Kawi has any sort of upper hand contractually/financially is if Jorge is adamant about terminating said contract early. Pretty simple really.

if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... 

I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd have to imagine it would be at least double Jorge's

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if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd...

if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... 

I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd have to imagine it would be at least double Jorge's

Jett's new deal is supposedly $22.5 million across 5 years. $4.5 mil/year. 

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I read in the Kawasaki 2 stroke thread that it's not happening now because of the Prado situation.
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disbanded wrote:

To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

Mavetism wrote:

And finishing in 6th overall in the championship on top of that!

Indy mxer wrote:
C'mon, that's bs. How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.He would've...

C'mon, that's bs. 

How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.

He would've been lucky to finish 10th!

10th?! He was 10th when he left the US after just testing SX with his Gasgas before the MXGP season, and "Euros can`t ride SX"...

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avidchimp wrote:
Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all...

Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all other team negotiations and stay with the Kawasaki. Put in a real effort to race the bike (so as not to induce a performance clause), but make the team so miserable that they want nothing more than to pay out the contracted amount to make him leave. Then take a deal with another team, if any US based teams would actually offer one at that point. That's the real gamble.

Prado actually has all the juice unless he wants to lose a bunch of money to leave on his own accord.

dingaling wrote:
You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall...

You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall operations. 

Prado is gambling with his long term career reputation and currency. His best bet is to take some accountability, settle on a middle ground $ amount, payment plan etc and hope is ass he does well on the KTM. He pretty much has to be on the podium regularly because he's already shown when he put in the effort on the kawi he could get 5th. 

avidchimp wrote:
Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting...

Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting him leave and washing their hands is absolutely leverage.

The only way Kawi has any sort of upper hand contractually/financially is if Jorge is adamant about terminating said contract early. Pretty simple really.

Kawi will ruin him in the legal system before it even hits trial if Jorge decides to fight

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Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday...
Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday morning with an aching body and dehydrated head because of their riding antics over the weekend were accused of 'stealing' their salary for the day. We've all done it- whether it be a hangover, a beat up body from Moto, or other personal issues, we've all underperformed at work for some reason & still claimed our pay. Let's keep things in perspective and not say he stole anything.
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I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
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‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.

He definitely quit trying....

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dingaling wrote:
You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall...

You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall operations. 

Prado is gambling with his long term career reputation and currency. His best bet is to take some accountability, settle on a middle ground $ amount, payment plan etc and hope is ass he does well on the KTM. He pretty much has to be on the podium regularly because he's already shown when he put in the effort on the kawi he could get 5th. 

avidchimp wrote:
Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting...

Sticking it out and making them pay him his contractually owed 6 mil (pretty much confirmed amount) over the next two years vs. them just letting him leave and washing their hands is absolutely leverage.

The only way Kawi has any sort of upper hand contractually/financially is if Jorge is adamant about terminating said contract early. Pretty simple really.

Jkawi wrote:

Kawi will ruin him in the legal system before it even hits trial if Jorge decides to fight

Exactly, they can afford a long, expensive legal fight if they decide to go that route. Hopefully it doesn't get to that point and they can find a fair settlement so everyone can move on. 

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The gift that keeps giving 

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I mean they would have in house lawyers that they are paying anyway so what's it to them to fight one athlete?

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I mean they would have in house lawyers that they are paying anyway so what's it to them to fight one athlete?

If they are smart they use in house atty's... but often sub lament them with outside specialists.  

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It’s kinda crazy how a multi millionaire doesn’t want to pay money to get out of his contract. Just pay the fees and get out of it. If he’s that confident in himself then he’ll make up the money in the long run and be fine. Kawi should just keep him for next year and if he wants to ride fine and if not then fine, but he better go to every dealer signing and every race to sign posters and watch Chase win and get podiums 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a multi millionaire, hates the team, but wants other people to pay his way out lol 

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if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd...

if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... 

I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd have to imagine it would be at least double Jorge's

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Jett's new deal is supposedly $22.5 million across 5 years. $4.5 mil/year. 

Mirts is definitely trying to figure out how he still get a cut of that 😂😂😂

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if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd...

if Jorge was contracted for 3 mil a year I wonder what Jett is at ... 

I think I heard 5 mil on a podcast but I'd have to imagine it would be at least double Jorge's

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Jett's new deal is supposedly $22.5 million across 5 years. $4.5 mil/year. 

I wonder if he gets all normal bonuses aswell or if it's like with RC and Suzuki back then (I think it was championship bonuses only, no race bonuses though?). Either way he definitely earned it! 

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All I know is Prada is a quitter and I’ll never be a fan (fyi for future sponsors).  A lot more riders than just Prado couldn’t  win on the Kawasaki and have moved on or retired and if they can’t win on the Kawi then I’m not spending my money on one.  Monster spends a lot on the sport and I appreciate it but that stuff is nasty especially compared to an ice cold Red Bull. 
Besides after mxon today I won’t give a shit until January. 

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Beeby wrote:

So you DO think he just got off a plane and lost all ability

After SX he will want to go back to the GPs. 

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