2025 Season Thoughts

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Edited Date/Time 9/21/2025 9:47am

What do we think? 

Could go on and on, but here are some of my quick thoughts…

Deegan proved even when there is a glimmer of hope that he settled down, he showed he is still an idiot.

Jo and Hammaker are rolling into 2026 strong. 

Vialle, are you staying or going?

Too many red flags.

Jett isn’t human.

Hunter is going to be hungry in 2026.

RJ, impressive 450 rides.

Prado…enough said.

Sexton…I don’t even know what to say. 

Looking forward to the guys switching teams for 2026! 

 

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I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

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9/21/2025 10:23am

2025 had plenty of ups and downs challenges along the way. Jett at the 1st outdoor was inspiring.

It wasn’t a 1 rider wins everything and boring season.

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otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

I don't really see why there is such a negative stance towards racing nowadays. We can literally watch races live for both prestigious series. 

- MXGP live works great (for me), we can see everything (time practice, support classes) directly from all over the world.

- I've watched all AMA races this year. Some on replay mode, some live, never had any issues. Yes, the broadcast could have been better. Yes, I sometimes had some issues listening to some announcers. Yes, some tracks could have been better. But we've seen some awesome racing in all classes, seen some surprising winners and we have more information than ever before right in front of us.

What do you want to see more?

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9/22/2025 12:52am

Disappointing season to say the least. Seems like everything went wrong for everyone except two guys.

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9/22/2025 5:29am Edited Date/Time 9/22/2025 5:30am

My one big takeaway is that between SX, MX, and SMX...  The season is too long without enough breaks built in to allow these guys to stay healthy.  We are seeing too many of these guys "sick" for various reasons and on-going, lingering "illness" that ends with them not finishing the season. 

I suspect, as has been stated before by others that these guys are simply wearing out.  It might be time to explore a 2 week on, one week off or similar format with built in recovery time and mandatory off/down time simply to allow the body to recover effectively.  

Sure, less races means less $$$...  But perhaps they could supplement with a secondary series for WMX, 125, E bikes, or similar and create more opportunities for racers.  

Just thinking out loud.  

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9/22/2025 7:26am

SMX needs a serious fix. Where the races are being held doesn't work. If SMX is supposed to be a combo of MX and SX why can't they hold the races at modified outdoor tracks? Just add some SX obstacles. Perhaps because it is later in the season we could have one in the southeast, one in Texas?

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9/22/2025 7:31am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Imagine complaining about being able to watch all the races and qualifying live. Man, what a terrible time to be a fan 

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9/22/2025 7:35am

What a year off the track. 

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9/22/2025 7:37am

since the year is over, will we finally get a proper JA21 update? 

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9/22/2025 7:53am Edited Date/Time 9/22/2025 7:54am

Key takeaways:

Jett proved without a doubt he’s never riding at 100% of his speed capability. 

Even though Eli is still elite and extremely fast, his results are suffering because of his age.

Hunter took another step and will likely be even faster in 2026. 

KTM is not in a good spot with the bike.

Seth and Jo, two of the more likable guys in either class, have established themselves as the favorites for 2026.

Deegan is fast but is still getting beat straight up by guys like Shimoda, Hymas, Juju, and Davies both indoors and out. He also proved again, multiple times, who he is as a person through his actions. 

Feld needs to find a way to get rid of the ruts on big jumps and rhythm sections. Whoops and dragon backs aren’t the issue. 

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9/22/2025 8:04am

Jett - cracks are showing in the armor

Hunta - Geezuss dood fast AFFF now days

Eli- it's a wrap boyz

El Hombre - been a wild ride!

Chase - those dern goggles!!

Webb - One last title for the road

Joe - Showed he's better than Deegs

Deegs - It's all heel from here

2025 in a nutshell 

 

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9/22/2025 8:16am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

I'm befuddled, why would you be willing to pay to watch qualifying but not the races?

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9/22/2025 8:49am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

GrapeApe wrote:

I'm befuddled, why would you be willing to pay to watch qualifying but not the races?

Because it would free up time by just watching the holeshot, and who won the race.  I won't have to watch the terrible race broadcast. I can't do it anymore.  Showing me "points as they run" 30 seconds into the race is ridiculous. And anyone who thinks the race broadcasts are good is fooling themselves.

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9/22/2025 9:11am

Lots of great racing and tons of drama, what is there not to like??

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9/22/2025 11:00am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

GrapeApe wrote:

I'm befuddled, why would you be willing to pay to watch qualifying but not the races?

I'm wondering the same thing. It's not like RDL catches many of the fast qualifying laps. Storytime people can get from podcasts. 

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9/22/2025 11:16am

since the year is over, will we finally get a proper JA21 update? 

The latest w/ some “firming up” from those that seem to know what’s goin’ on…

Took A LOT of time off, as was necessary, to get healthy…as we’ve all heard and read. 

HEP Zook for 2026

New Training Program and locale for 2026

That’s all that’s out there at the moment. In most cases, 2025 isn’t over ‘til October and even later for a few riders/contracts.

I believe…I think…we’ll get “official announcements” in October.

 

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9/22/2025 11:18am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

So, what do you like?🤣

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9/22/2025 11:29am
Nairb#70 wrote:

Disappointing season to say the least. Seems like everything went wrong for everyone except two guys.

Who are those two? 

JL18 - didn't win everything

Deegs - didn't win everything. 

SX had an awesome story with Webb winning his 3rd title. 

one coast of 250 SX was highly unpredictable. Deegs made the other coast look routine. 

SMX...went down the wire in both classes. Not sure what would have to happen to not be disappointing to you. 

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9/22/2025 11:38am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Commercial free LIVE coverage of qualifying and every moto for 8 bucks a month. I'll admit I'd love for AC and/or JB to take over the commentary role from Ricky and James but otherwise motocross currently has the best bang for buck TV coverage of any sport in the world and it's not particularly close. Football fans pay almost $500 a year on top of cable or streaming for NFL Sunday Ticket/Red Zone and get the same horrible State Farm commercials rammed down their throats every 2 minutes. A little perspective.

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9/22/2025 11:44am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Commercial free LIVE coverage of qualifying and every moto for 8 bucks a month. I'll admit I'd love for AC and/or JB to take over the...

Commercial free LIVE coverage of qualifying and every moto for 8 bucks a month. I'll admit I'd love for AC and/or JB to take over the commentary role from Ricky and James but otherwise motocross currently has the best bang for buck TV coverage of any sport in the world and it's not particularly close. Football fans pay almost $500 a year on top of cable or streaming for NFL Sunday Ticket/Red Zone and get the same horrible State Farm commercials rammed down their throats every 2 minutes. A little perspective.

Not to derail, but is it really that expensive to watch the footsball?

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9/22/2025 11:50am

I love all the available coverage

Jett is amazing, really incredible...

Eli looked rough on the Yamaha to me, especially outdoors. Looking forward to seeing him on orange.

Honda has their program dialed

I like SMX. Needs some refinement but the framework for the best series in the world is there.

 

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9/22/2025 2:16pm
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

You seem like a fun guy to be around. First comment and its a whine fest...

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9/22/2025 2:39pm
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Jkawi wrote:

You seem like a fun guy to be around. First comment and its a whine fest...

why do you care? just downvote snowflake.

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9/22/2025 2:54pm
Nairb#70 wrote:

Disappointing season to say the least. Seems like everything went wrong for everyone except two guys.

I'll just assume you are referring to Jett and deegan?

 

If so are you forgetting that Jett was out for most of SX with a torn ACL?

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9/22/2025 2:57pm

Honda

Yamaha 

Kawasaki

Suzuki

KTM

Husqvarna 

GasGas

Beta

Triumph

Ducati 

Ten brands in the paddock…yes, Ducati was “part time”…but, they were out there racing and there’s more to come. I don’t know that we’ll see GasGas back as a factory team next year…so, that’s kind of a bummer. Sounds like Suzuki is becoming more involved in MX/SX racing in the U.S. NICE! 

It seems like support teams like Club, Quad Lock, Tedder and others are all doing well. Very happy about that.

Even-though I’m a TLD guy, I was impressed by how much FXR contributed to MX/SX teams and riders this year. Great company and great people…yes, I’m talking about you Andy…you crazy Canuck! Thanks for bringing so much to the game & good luck next year!

So many changes in regards to “Who’s riding what” next year: 

Chase going green.

Bam Bam staying red. But, a different red.

El Hombré going home to the brand he “went pro” on.

Eli on a KTM. Wow. That’s a change.

Rockstar going back to being just Husqvarna (both rigs become HSQ like they were).

Maybe we’ll see Beta at more Nationals?

Triumph will bring the 450 out to play…maybe a 2nd rider…?

Isn’t Ferrandis supposed to be on Ducati?

Who’s the 2nd Kawasaki rider? That should be a pleasant surprise.

Ducati 250 riders?

Are we going to see a Beta 250?

There’s a lot of cool stuff on the horizon.

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9/22/2025 3:02pm

To me the value of a rider competing in the entire series has been some what downplayed. Most riders rode indoors or outdoors depending on their .  injuries. I value outdoors, but others prefer the SX racing. OF the top 10 450 riders, I think only Justin Cooper raced both series. The gimmickry of the SMX three race "playoff" only netted him a 5th overall.  Make every race have the same points value, count them all and he who has the most points wins. 

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I'm just bummed about a couple small things:

Kenny derailing his chain which pretty much put an end to his title dream..

Jett and Tomac getting injured was really sad, what they showed at San Diego I was convinced it would have been between those two this year.

Then probably (and I think most did) having too high hopes for this years MX season. I thought we would get the best season ever potentially with Jett, Tomac, Prado, Sexton and Hunter. But then Tomac overall not really up to pace compared to the hunter brothers, Sexton either winning or crashing, nothing in between and Prado.. Yeah we all know how it went with Prado. 

One of the tings I was really happy about was Jett not getting his starts like he did in 2023. Him coming through the field was an absolute treat to watch, specially RedBud (probably my favorite race this year).

Overall though as always still the best sport to watch no matter what and I'm ALWAYS looking forward to the next season!

 

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9/22/2025 3:35pm
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

One solution to the hard-to-listen-to broadcasts has been to watch the races live ( & for free ) on the Spanish language YouTube channel. 
It's more enjoyable watching the races without all the chatter filling every second, endlessly.     

Here's the whole SX season ; https://www.youtube.com/@deportes/search?query=supercross
& the MX season ; https://www.youtube.com/@deportes/search?query=motocross

 

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9/23/2025 4:58am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Commercial free LIVE coverage of qualifying and every moto for 8 bucks a month. I'll admit I'd love for AC and/or JB to take over the...

Commercial free LIVE coverage of qualifying and every moto for 8 bucks a month. I'll admit I'd love for AC and/or JB to take over the commentary role from Ricky and James but otherwise motocross currently has the best bang for buck TV coverage of any sport in the world and it's not particularly close. Football fans pay almost $500 a year on top of cable or streaming for NFL Sunday Ticket/Red Zone and get the same horrible State Farm commercials rammed down their throats every 2 minutes. A little perspective.

mvd61 wrote:

Not to derail, but is it really that expensive to watch the footsball?

It doesn't have to be, you could just do YouTubeTV or Hulu Live TV for $83-$90/month and get whatever game happens to be on your local station but for a comparable coverage, yea it's obscene. And even at $83 that's way more money for way less coverage. We have it so good right now with moto broadcasts. 

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9/23/2025 8:17am
otrdave wrote:
I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just...

I'm seriously considering cancelling my Peacock subscription because... 1. The broadcasts are terrible, announcing is awful, timing and scoring is ridiculous. I wish I could just pay for Race Day Live! 2. The tracks in all 3 disciplines suck.  3. Ban the scoop tire. 4. it's just cheaper to listen to podcasts and read Racer X.

Jkawi wrote:

You seem like a fun guy to be around. First comment and its a whine fest...

otrdave wrote:

why do you care? just downvote snowflake.

Why do I care? lol. I don't. You are the one complaining about a tv show. I come here to read about moto, and it feels like I'm tuning into The View. So thanks for ruining that.

Also, don't you think that's a bit ironic to tell me to "downvote" your post AND call me a snowflake in one sentence? I felt like giving you more info than that.

Keep on being miserable...

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