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NASCAR took over its subsidiary, International Speedway Corporation in 2019, which gave them full control of 10 or 11 of the tracks they use at the Cup level. Speedway Motorsports Inc (started by Bruton Smith and now run by son Marcus) owns 10 tracks. That leaves Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Circuit of the Americas and the Chicago street course as the only independent facilities on the schedule. The France family and Marcus Smith have FU money and Roger Penske (Indianapolis Speedway and NASCAR team owner) isn’t doing too bad either. COTA is owned by an LLC. Chicago is owned by the DNC. 😎. They’ll gladly take money from a billionaire to hold the streets closed for another day if the opportunity arises! 😂
How clueless can you be? You think the one that put up major money for it to workout, would allow it to run without being streamed and on TV? 🙄😄
Great idea, to do the races without funding.
They're welcome to stick around and put it on peacock if they want to. TV networks that put up much more money than this make adjustments all the time when games get rescheduled or delayed. Sometimes they aren't on TV at all as a result. So not sure who's clueless on this as the scenario plays out all the time in sports that take themselves more seriously than the circus? It's nuts to suggest that if the TV partner doesn't want to make the adjustments that the series should just cancel the playoff game though. This is the playoffs, right? Wild cards and everything? That's what the TV people wanted, right?
You're doing it again though.... just accepting that the TV product is more important than the racing itself and should drive all of the decisions being made.
There wouldnt be any smx without TV package. Dont understand how anyone could have missed that.
Suggesting that people should separate it, when it has never been more connected makes zero sense.
It's not a blemish on the sport. The bitching that would take place if they ran that event without crowd and TV distribution would far exceed the shit storm that people created now for nothing.
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I still say with the advent of SMX, SX and MX should both be 12 rounds; each series contributes equally to SMX and you finish right before football season starts, so more venues are available.
Also align the start of MXGP so it ends when SMX does, have a week or two break, then into MXdN.
Everyone one gets a decent off season and there’s plenty of time for off season SX and the return of RBSR.
What’s not to like? Except Feld losing a little cream from the additional SXs…….
Truck is one of the many clueless people commenting in this thread 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It’s not fair to put Truck in the same category as some of the other “clueless” posters in this thread. The man is a Dr for goodness sakes. I believe that there are just some factors that he hasn’t taken into consideration about the reality of the situation that we just had this past weekend.
We’ve seen way worse in terms of track conditions before; they shortened the races and let them race….just saying
The race wasn't cancelled due to track conditions
It’s not fair saying the riders didn’t wanna race that track after the rain/poor lighting being a concern.. we all saw the track when it was dry and it looked like shit..
This is on feld for putting together a shit event in their beloved super duper motocross
I'm going to speculate here, but chances are that the NBC deal may not allow them to run a race without it being streamed by them. They paid big money to show the races and I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in that contract that would not allow a make up race like that to happen.
How would running the race without fans, with no media coverage help grow the sport or have it be taken more seriously? F1 the top motorsport has had canceled rounds and it's as big as it gets. Did that hurt the credibility of F1 when they called off a race?
They have said they wanted to have a race on the east coast, middle and west coast. So while the country itself is very big, the number of places that would work are drastically reduced when You are limited to a certain geographic area. Maybe they do find a different place to run next year?
Perhaps You could show us some of the locations that would work better, willing to allow Dirt in their facility, be available in the timeframe they want/need and in budget. I seriously think that would be a cool thread to read and contribute to.
For a longtime Supercross was not in the Northeast because of Union's and the need to use them for building the tracks. I don't know how they fixed that. But that was a big reason that it took so long to come back. There are likely so many dumb little things that make it harder or more expensive to run a race in certain areas.
I'm sure Feld wanted to run the entire race, and were not very happy to cancel the second moto and the SMX Next race. I think it really sucks too, but sometimes things just don't go how we would like them to go.
You spelled Douchey wrong. Don’t sink
that track was gnarly before the storm. it sucks to cancel it halfway through but this track was already unsafe. fans need to chill
The old if you don't like the way they do it, you should do it narrative. I stand corrected, Saturday was executed well.
Simple. It sends the message that the race matters because of the race and not because of the TV show. It legitimizes the gimmick playoff they're trying to sell.
You can call me clueless all you want. What you can't do is find another legitimate sport that cancels "playoff" games and just shrugs their shoulders about it.
We all remember that time Jordan won an NBA championship when they shortened the finals to a best of 3 because the TV logistics were difficult......
As usual, people are missing the point........
Can we at least acknowledge that not having a policy in place to guide these decisions or some sort of contingency plan in place is an oversight or is that even too much for you network TV apologists?
The top 450 riders said the track was one of the sketchiest tracks they've ever ridden, and that was before the storm. It would've been even sketchier. I believe that if they could've made the track modifications and still had daylight, they would've ran the 2nd motos.
All things considered, it's probably good that they didn't.
On to next week. It'll be alright.
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https://racerxonline.com/2025/09/09/the-big-decision-to-stop-the-charlotte-playoff-race
Amateur sport is about the participants and the sport itself. Professional sport has always been about monetizing the audience, through selling tickets, parking, refreshments, souvenirs, equipment, streaming services, cable packages and more. All that yang about the sanctity of the sport is in service of keeping the fans engaged and willing to part with more money.
Hopefully we can close the topic now. Right call, stop bitching about it.
Good interview and credit for them stepping up filling in all the haters.
Thanks to all of you that watched my video & shared! It was way worse out there than the ol iPhone could show 😂
First off, I never called You clueless. I agree that it wasn't the best way of handling things. Unfortunately or fortunately the series was made for TV . the TV money is what made the races possible . The prize money itself has helped to make it seem more legit in the eyes of the average viewer.I doubt they wouldn't do something to make up the race if they had to totally cancel the round. But that has happened before.
Remember back during Covid how they ran races without fans and were one of the ONLY sports that did not totally cancel ?
Perhaps there are some things in contracts that makes a makeup race not possible? They are running the Futures or SMX next class, whatever its called , on Friday. At least its not the last round and deciding a title like the 125 class with Langston.
I would have liked to see them run the race somehow too, but for whatever reason they are not . Maybe they will do something and change for next year if its possible. Maybe there is another place they could hold that round that would hold up better to a late summer thunderstorm, that without considering a storm it is not as nice as the dragway. I personally would like to see it moved to someplace without the walls that are at that place. The chance of a thunderstorm is likely lower than the chance of somebody hitting a wall.
I am not saying that things went well. Just that with all things factored in , they made the right decision. As far as canceling the second motos. Perhaps they factor the weather into the choice of venue a little bit more for next year?
And I really thought it would be an interesting concept for a thread for somebody to write up since they said it would be easy to do. I thought about trying to look up some places and write something up myself, but I lack the time to invest into it. Perhaps I will someday since I do enjoy researching stuff like that.
Hopefully they will figure out a way to avoid a similar issue in the future. Or at least put something in the rulebook about a procedure if there is not already. I'm pretty sure that NESC has a policy for weather related issues that is in the rulebook. I would like to see them find a different location just because of the walls. If not for the walls , I think the track would not have been so sketchy to begin with.
I'm just catching up on Pulp, and around 2:25 Matthes' rant is about a guy he had to block for freaking out on him about the race being cancelled, and he references Matthes not being able to afford living in Orange County, Pookie is going to cheat on him, hes going to take Matthes down...I am 99.999% sure it was our friend Steve from this thread.
Our boy had a full crashout! Holy shit, golden. Apparently he also said he (our friend SteveUrchin) only makes $80k/year...somehow lives in OC?
If you're seeing this brother, time to lock up the phone when you start drinking! Now you can't post on Vital and you can't see any Pulp content because you're blocked lol
Lewis vs Kellen show they said that Peacock didn’t want any live racing on Sunday. Lewis let it slip , nobody else said this. Weege, JB, JT stuck to certain talking points.
It’s hilarious how Steve’s “rant of the night” was “don’t complain to me…I’m not Feld” then he proceeded to say “we” when defending SMX for 4 hours . lol
On the Lewis vs Kellen show, Lewis said he heard Peacock didn’t want any motocross interfering with their Sunday content . Not sure why
Not so difficult to understand. When running SX/MX on Saturday and within that time window it complement their current events.
Running it on Sunday would take away eyeballs from those events pissing off other series and sponsors.
If you would put our races on Sundays it would probably be less attractive to sponsor and air in general. Also why two day format isn't so easy to just switch to.
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