Herlings and MXON

His relation with KTM is done and i heard something like real drama at the moment. They won’t provide/support him with bikes for the MXON. 

Indeed, if he wanted to race he should've bought two to three bikes, get electronics figured out, ... 

Normally at national races such as the Keiheuvel, KTM also provides a factory bike. Now Every KTM rider was there with Factory material and JH84 didn't got that support and raced a trainingsbike.

If that’s true that’s unfortunate. It has to be the most successful rider riding for a single manufacturer relationship of all time maybe? I can’t think of any other rider off the top of my head that had so much success with only one manufacturer. Jeff ward comes to mind 

RV with Kawi.

Cairoli? Wasn't he with them for like 20 years and won 6 titles on it? 

He mentioned in an interview with NOS (Dutch news) that he has a contract with KTM until 31th of December and that the choice was done by KNMV due to his injuries and lack of results around the time they had to make a descision (Lommel). 

But then he went 1-1-1 hahaha. I find it weird considering this has been his whole career. He has come back to speed every single time after injury, why did they think this time would be different. 

RV

I don’t expect Herlings to go 1-1 at the next few rounds, but if he continues to be on the podium I can’t see how team Netherlands can ignore him. He has to be on the team.

If you provide him with a good bike, he will race. KTM isn’t giving him a race bike. 

Even as reserve rider?

I don’t know, he isn’t on the team at the moment due issues with KTM. I’m curious to know what will happen if one of the guys got a injury. If there won’t be a injury, we’ll never know. 

You keep saying stuff without any source or facts...

Does that mean, you have the sources/facts? Curious if I was informed wrong then. 

If he doesn’t race, he remains undefeated at Ironman.

the fans want to see him there, its just not the same without him, especially if he's been riding good 

providing he is healthy, can the team manager change his mind.

fair enough , he didn't have the hindsight that herlings is now riding really well,but when he picked the team, he should of said at the time ,youre all in, providing herlings is sub par 

I dont shout stuff out loud as if its a fact while i cant back my story up, am i?

It's currently just over 5 weeks until the MXDN.

Herlings, is a Reserve rider.

He's certainly Not 'mailing it in' - currently, he's beating the other Dutch 450 riders on the Team.

Now, the others may beat him in the next 3 races, he may get injured (again). Both, fine riders. 

They may, to.

Some here are implying that KTM won't support him fully. I don't read of any 'nastiness' between He and the Team. Of course, the old saying being ,"things end, (and, by that simple fact), they don't end well", is a basic truism.

So many here, always seem to think that contracts end at the same time Everywhere - eg : what seems to be , in the USA, right after the Nationals- well, SMX. But, riders / teams, can have other time frames negotiated between them. By their very nature, European MXGP / MX2 riders contracts, Have to be penciled in as finishing at a later date than the US Nationals. 

After so many years of good service to KTM, I'd hope they are not so petty as to deny him a bike of the level he is racing now. I just find that prospect as bizarre. He doesn't seem to be exuding any great ill will towards the Team - perhaps he does / has those feelings - if they have offered him  a p**s poor amount  compared to what he has now. Or No contract at all. Those 2 points maybe backed up by his joining Honda, I guess - is it a fully done deal?

But, none of us are privy to what really is happening - no matter what some here seem to convey, is my thought about all of this.

I do hope, if JH is (still) healthy, and, if he is still outperforming the other 2 Dutch 450 riders, that he does participate at this years MXdN. He is,  to repeat, listed as the Reserve rider, currently  Conversely, if the other two, are beating him, well, they should be on the Team.

All, assuming he wants to do the MXdN. 

He is finishing ahead of his countrymen consistently in almost every race, he is a fan favorite, going to a track he cleaned house against the Americans on a track he had never even ridden before (including a first turn crash).  Any sort of logic not to pick him or change up the team at this point, is, well, shitty.  And I am going to throw Vlaanderen under the bus here, he has moment races, but is inconsistent.  And my HUGE hurdle with him as a pick, the start is massively critical in this race, and he consistently gets really crappy starts.  I love his style, but the team has much better odds with Herlings.

Herlings missed the last US MXoN, this may be getting close to his last chance to race a MXoN in the US..  Make it happen.

And Vlaanderen isn't even dutch.
He should race for South Africa.

You probably didn't complain when they won it with Vlaanderen in 2019? The only time The Netherlands ever won it, as a matter of fact.

     JH is one of the All Time great motocross riders. Ever. I do not know what politics are involved, but someone needs to figure out how to get him on the team. Any race with Jeffrey as a competitor is a better race ! 

I personally don't count that one as a win.
As I am a firm believer you should race for the country where you were born.
Thats the whole purpose of the race.
Otherwise we could also form groups from 3 riders on brand etc.

You also see this with the olympics and athletes who changed nationalities later in life.
Not a fan of it.

Same for the Puerto Rico team.
Nice to get some extra Americans on the line.
But then they should change the format and make it some global playoffs with all the big names in it.

2017 Herlings would be picked and he would be favorite for the overalls but he’s not the guy any more. Still capable of going 1-1 MXGP yes but mother time has caught up. 

KTM sure knows how to treat their riders who have been there forever and are towards the end of their careers. Cairoli and Dungeys results weren’t good enough when they raced in 2022, Kaliub Russel got pulled after a couple 250 nationals. Herlings has won 110 gps for KTM and they won’t give him a race bike for MXDN. Crazy. 

That's a shame if Herlings can't race the MXdN. He may or may not be the fastest but he is the biggest attraction from the European series.

I'd think KTM not supporting him for MXON would be bad for bike sales in the Netherlands.   I hope he stays healthy and gets to race somehow.  

I dunno I’d argue Prado is the biggest attraction at the moment 😂 🤹 

How long was Wardy with Kawasaki?   1979 odd, to 1990?   My brain is a but fuzzy today.  FUZZY. 

I don’t follow the MXGP series at all, how would a prime Herlings do over here against Jett?