Jorge Prado "It was a very tough season to say the least. Cruising around every single race..."

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mxbmx wrote:
American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. I'm in the minority here but I get what...

American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. 

I'm in the minority here but I get what he's trying to say. He's been on a certain brand and style of bike his entire career, and the Kawi is just so completely different that he couldn't gel with it and him and that bike just don't go together. I hope he goes back to KTM next year and does well, I feel he's still yet to show his potential in the States. I typically root for foreigners in the US series and I hope he turns it around.

We Americans can spot a bullshit artist from a mile away….some humility and ownership would have went a long way….how about “ I lost confidence and need to work harder for next year” ….We Americans also love a comeback and underdogs…….I don’t believe the bike issue one bit…these bikes are all the same just different colors……Canadian bro…..if you can’t stick handle and rag the puck, do you blame the stick? ….now put some Rush on tuner and have a molsen….

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Whip wrote:
Still backing the guy He’d rather be honest and not be laid out injured99% of you on here angrily typing away could not achieve what he has...

Still backing the guy 

He’d rather be honest and not be laid out injured

99% of you on here angrily typing away could not achieve what he has in a hundred lifetimes, I’m genuinely baffled why it bothers you all so much

You complain when riders are not transparent 

You complain when riders say & do exactly what they’re feeling

Keep doing you Prado, trust yourself & see you on the podium next year 🫡

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There are literally people on these boards who save peoples lives for a living, educate children, engineer innovate patent products that improve lives for millions, many...

There are literally people on these boards who save peoples lives for a living, educate children, engineer innovate patent products that improve lives for millions, many other very important careers as well, Prado races dirt bikes. And he does so to sell bikes for his employer. Prado is fucking up at his job right now.

Prado is top Kawasaki rider in SuperMotocross points right now. Are the Kawasaki riders that finished below him fucking up too?

Harrison has come out and stated that he doesn't know what is wrong with Prado, and that he loves his Kawasaki. Ultimately Prado's job is to represent the brand in a positive light and sell bikes, even if he is struggling with the bike. He could say his shoulder injury set him back, that he is used to works bikes, the pace is faster, the tracks are different, there is a cultural and language barrier, all true things, but he doesn't. According to him, it is all the bike, nothing else. His going backwards from holeshots or near holeshots, riding around with one hand off the bars, consistent shit talking about the bike and team is the exact opposite of that in anybody's imagination. That he is the laughingstock of pro motocross right now, the topic of numerous threads here and other avenues, the topic of numerous podcasts, and no other Kawasaki rider is all any reasonable person needs to see he is failing at promoting the brand he was hired to promote and letting down his fellow co-workers. His failure to qualify on time at Budds was a deliberate slap in the face to all who support him, there is no way he couldn't qualify on time even with a half-assed stab at it. These pro riders that blame the bike when they fail yet heap all the credit when they succeed are hypocrites.

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Spoonguy wrote:
There are literally people on these boards who save peoples lives for a living, educate children, engineer innovate patent products that improve lives for millions, many...

There are literally people on these boards who save peoples lives for a living, educate children, engineer innovate patent products that improve lives for millions, many other very important careers as well, Prado races dirt bikes. And he does so to sell bikes for his employer. Prado is fucking up at his job right now.

Prado is top Kawasaki rider in SuperMotocross points right now. Are the Kawasaki riders that finished below him fucking up too?

Spoonguy wrote:
Harrison has come out and stated that he doesn't know what is wrong with Prado, and that he loves his Kawasaki. Ultimately Prado's job is to...

Harrison has come out and stated that he doesn't know what is wrong with Prado, and that he loves his Kawasaki. Ultimately Prado's job is to represent the brand in a positive light and sell bikes, even if he is struggling with the bike. He could say his shoulder injury set him back, that he is used to works bikes, the pace is faster, the tracks are different, there is a cultural and language barrier, all true things, but he doesn't. According to him, it is all the bike, nothing else. His going backwards from holeshots or near holeshots, riding around with one hand off the bars, consistent shit talking about the bike and team is the exact opposite of that in anybody's imagination. That he is the laughingstock of pro motocross right now, the topic of numerous threads here and other avenues, the topic of numerous podcasts, and no other Kawasaki rider is all any reasonable person needs to see he is failing at promoting the brand he was hired to promote and letting down his fellow co-workers. His failure to qualify on time at Budds was a deliberate slap in the face to all who support him, there is no way he couldn't qualify on time even with a half-assed stab at it. These pro riders that blame the bike when they fail yet heap all the credit when they succeed are hypocrites.

Amen.

Also, I teach my kids to take responsibility for their actions/situation and to never give up.  Prado is no role model for our youth riders.

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Final Season Standings: 6th

Moto Results:

7-6-12-5-8-39-12-23-5-6-7-5-12-5-8-19-5-6-15-12-11-12

Average Finishing Position: 10.91

Damn... What a disaster
Although 6th in points makes it sound better on paper than his season actually was. I think most had him around 4-5th the first season. 

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8/25/2025 5:03am
wicksy85 wrote:

Bruh, thats the nail in coffin for Kawasaki right there, surely they'll be absolutely pissed off, Prado shows no accountability at all. 

PBRvince wrote:
What exactly should he be saying to show accountability? If he doesn’t feel safe on the bike what’s he supposed to do? Go out there and...

What exactly should he be saying to show accountability? If he doesn’t feel safe on the bike what’s he supposed to do? Go out there and yard himself?

Yes, Yes he is. 

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After Prado's revenge tactic for being who he is, showing his true colors, and not even qualifying the bike, as team manager of Kawasaki, I'm sure it took everything he had not to walk over and bitch slap him after he came off the track.

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A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda at almost every round. Now he’s having an historic year after his switch to Ducati. Prado is not clicking with this bike in that same way Mark couldn’t with his Honda. Even after winning multiple championships on a Honda previously. I’m looking forward to seeing if Jorge can rebound going back to KTM just like Mark has after changing teams.

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Ethan151 wrote:
A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda...

A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda at almost every round. Now he’s having an historic year after his switch to Ducati. Prado is not clicking with this bike in that same way Mark couldn’t with his Honda. Even after winning multiple championships on a Honda previously. I’m looking forward to seeing if Jorge can rebound going back to KTM just like Mark has after changing teams.

The difference is that Marquez went out and rode the bike to his abilities and the bike couldn't handle it. At no point did Prado push the bike and instead backed it way down. He was running slower times than the Kawi test rider trying to help him. And by a long shot as well. Tickle had no problems pushing the bike 4 seconds harder and he has never been considered one of "The Fastest In The World" at any time. Good riders blame the bike, great riders find a way.

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Ethan151 wrote:
A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda...

A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda at almost every round. Now he’s having an historic year after his switch to Ducati. Prado is not clicking with this bike in that same way Mark couldn’t with his Honda. Even after winning multiple championships on a Honda previously. I’m looking forward to seeing if Jorge can rebound going back to KTM just like Mark has after changing teams.

The difference is that Marquez went out and rode the bike to his abilities and the bike couldn't handle it. At no point did Prado push...

The difference is that Marquez went out and rode the bike to his abilities and the bike couldn't handle it. At no point did Prado push the bike and instead backed it way down. He was running slower times than the Kawi test rider trying to help him. And by a long shot as well. Tickle had no problems pushing the bike 4 seconds harder and he has never been considered one of "The Fastest In The World" at any time. Good riders blame the bike, great riders find a way.

He lead a race for 15min, hes qualified within same sec as Jett and Huntet. At what planet is that not pushing the bike? He should have pushed it to be a few seconds faster than Jett? Or risk crashing pushing the whole race?

I didn't see Tickle in the race pushing the bike 4 sec faster than Prado, because if he did he would have probably been on the podium and won races every weekend.

 

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Haha no joke! 

8/25/2025 6:29am

Pulp were in total agreement: He tried to bail out via qualifying and did NOT know he would get in under the provisional. Then there''s a "rumor" that he opted for the LCQ but Kawi knew he was gonna mail it in for the LCQ and be on a flight home.

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why is everybody tripping on prado? I seriously don't get the obsession... guy didnt like the bike and saved his own ass.  im having a very...

why is everybody tripping on prado? I seriously don't get the obsession... guy didnt like the bike and saved his own ass.  im having a very hard time seeing the issue. 

mxbmx wrote:
American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. I'm in the minority here but I get what...

American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. 

I'm in the minority here but I get what he's trying to say. He's been on a certain brand and style of bike his entire career, and the Kawi is just so completely different that he couldn't gel with it and him and that bike just don't go together. I hope he goes back to KTM next year and does well, I feel he's still yet to show his potential in the States. I typically root for foreigners in the US series and I hope he turns it around.

Yeah seriously, im not the typical American fan for a lot of things... I wish prado well in all his future racing endeavors.You would think people...

Yeah seriously, im not the typical American fan for a lot of things... I wish prado well in all his future racing endeavors.

You would think people on these forum would know the frame difference's between mxgp's and ama's outdoors regulation's and such. This whole thing is a damn nothing burger and a whole lot of lack of common sense. Guy finished 6th OA in 450s his first time outdoors over here. 

I thought the whole goal was to finish top 10 in either series, but apparently people are slighted by the way he did it? idk. i cant with these people.

You think Prados goal, a multi time mxgp champ, was top ten?  That’s success?

The problem people have with Prado is his complete lack of accountability. 

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further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much better and then tell everyone "See? Told ya it was the bike!" - just a rumor but coming from some pretty credible guys....

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further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much...

further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much better and then tell everyone "See? Told ya it was the bike!" - just a rumor but coming from some pretty credible guys....

What “full works bike?” Sent by whom?

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Shouts out Mitchell Harrison

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ohh_454 wrote:

Yaa that’s cool but it still doesn’t give George a reason on why he sucked so bad this year lol

chasetwo79 wrote:
Hate to beat a dead horse but even since then, Anderson won 8x on that team, 15-20 podiums, tons of heat race wins. The bike is...

Hate to beat a dead horse but even since then, Anderson won 8x on that team, 15-20 podiums, tons of heat race wins. The bike is fine. 

Tale of two cities. Is the KX a better supercross bike then motocross?  Such different disciplines?  I’d like to hear someone that tests bikes at a high level describe how the KX crosses over. Prado did better than expected I thought in SX before he got hurt. But with Tickle going 4 seconds faster a lap in MX then Prado maybe there’s nothing there. 

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8/25/2025 6:56am
further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much...

further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much better and then tell everyone "See? Told ya it was the bike!" - just a rumor but coming from some pretty credible guys....

What “full works bike?” Sent by whom?

the one he rode in the GP's I'd assume. Kawi Europe could send it? No clue...

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Final Season Standings: 6th

Moto Results:

7-6-12-5-8-39-12-23-5-6-7-5-12-5-8-19-5-6-15-12-11-12

Average Finishing Position: 10.91

crusty_xx wrote:
Damn... What a disasterAlthough 6th in points makes it sound better on paper than his season actually was. I think most had him around 4-5th the...

Damn... What a disaster
Although 6th in points makes it sound better on paper than his season actually was. I think most had him around 4-5th the first season. 

6th seems ok but Jett could have DNFd 9 motos and still finished ahead of Prado in the points.  If it were 10 DNFs Prado beats him by 3 points.

What a weird year for a 4 time world champ.

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ohh_454 wrote:

Yaa that’s cool but it still doesn’t give George a reason on why he sucked so bad this year lol

chasetwo79 wrote:
Hate to beat a dead horse but even since then, Anderson won 8x on that team, 15-20 podiums, tons of heat race wins. The bike is...

Hate to beat a dead horse but even since then, Anderson won 8x on that team, 15-20 podiums, tons of heat race wins. The bike is fine. 

kylemenz1 wrote:
Tale of two cities. Is the KX a better supercross bike then motocross?  Such different disciplines?  I’d like to hear someone that tests bikes at a...

Tale of two cities. Is the KX a better supercross bike then motocross?  Such different disciplines?  I’d like to hear someone that tests bikes at a high level describe how the KX crosses over. Prado did better than expected I thought in SX before he got hurt. But with Tickle going 4 seconds faster a lap in MX then Prado maybe there’s nothing there. 

So Tickle would have qualified 1.57 when Jett and Prado did 2.01? 😄

Or won Southwick going 4 sec a lap faster? 

SX bike is probably completely different. Wouldnt be first time a bike is substantially better in one of the disciplines.

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further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much...

further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much better and then tell everyone "See? Told ya it was the bike!" - just a rumor but coming from some pretty credible guys....

What “full works bike?” Sent by whom?

the one he rode in the GP's I'd assume. Kawi Europe could send it? No clue...

They are talking about his KTM.

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further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much...

further on Pulp........word has it that Prado is gonna race MXOD and is having his full works bike sent over so that he can do much better and then tell everyone "See? Told ya it was the bike!" - just a rumor but coming from some pretty credible guys....

What “full works bike?” Sent by whom?

the one he rode in the GP's I'd assume. Kawi Europe could send it? No clue...

But the Kawi that Prado famously raced in GPs wasn't even full works. It was just a stock KLX140 with the pipe-baffle-removal mod and a Monster energy sticker pack.

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I have Prado fatigue. 

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Villopoto states that USA tracks are much faster speed wise - MPH - than MXGP tracks, Zach Osborne stated that when he was in GPs they had a choice of three different sized frames - because of the works bike deal. I can see this being an adjustment for Prado, but his petulant behavior and lack of accountability is what freaks out American fans. In America, "You take one for the team", "win one for the Gipper", or "be a stand-up guy", and most definitely "always do your best" and never rat out your co-workers or buddies.

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Isn’t Bruce S still pretty high up over at Kawi? He let RC run a 98 frame in 2001. run it back. Put a 22 frame on that SR.

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Final Season Standings: 6th

Moto Results:

7-6-12-5-8-39-12-23-5-6-7-5-12-5-8-19-5-6-15-12-11-12

Average Finishing Position: 10.91

crusty_xx wrote:
Damn... What a disasterAlthough 6th in points makes it sound better on paper than his season actually was. I think most had him around 4-5th the...

Damn... What a disaster
Although 6th in points makes it sound better on paper than his season actually was. I think most had him around 4-5th the first season. 

I had him as a consistent 4-6 guy. He finished 6th in the standings, but he certainly wasn't a 4-6 guy. I knew he was going to have some difficulty to adapt because there were a lot of changes, but I don't think anyone had him struggling this bad. 

It's going to be interesting to see if he improves on the KTM or if things more or less stay the same. IMO, if he improves he'll save face, and if nothing changes, his reputation will tank completely. 

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8/25/2025 7:42am
Looks like Factory Kawi's engine guy also has Prado fatigue:https://x.com/pulpmx/status/1959984457123004832

Looks like Factory Kawi's engine guy also has Prado fatigue:

Screenshot 2025-08-25 at 7.37.50%E2%80%AFAM

https://x.com/pulpmx/status/1959984457123004832

Wow.  Just Wow.  This has to be done now, right?

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Ethan151 wrote:
A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda...

A few years ago people said Mark Marquez was unsafe and had no business even being on a moto GP track because he crashed the Honda at almost every round. Now he’s having an historic year after his switch to Ducati. Prado is not clicking with this bike in that same way Mark couldn’t with his Honda. Even after winning multiple championships on a Honda previously. I’m looking forward to seeing if Jorge can rebound going back to KTM just like Mark has after changing teams.

Tough comparison, Mark tried every time he touched that bike to his dying breath, and also still tried to build culture within the team to help him. The team loved him to the end and would still love to have him back.

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