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This isn’t just bad, it’s nuclear bad. You can say what you want about the bike, low horsepower, new tracks, what the fuck ever. Guillod is just a couple of points behind. The whole ordeal looks bad.
The dead horse is still dead.
What I genuinely do not understand is how he can get beat by privateers and guys off the couch on a regular basis. Maybe the bike isn’t perfect but I mean let’s get a 7th place or something. The guy is getting beat by dudes with a revalve and pipes.
Well, Roczen came off the couch and beat Prado whilst riding that yellow paw paw.
Prado is over it and is plotting his exit from Kawa. Today was proof of that.
Not hard to understand; he gave up.
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Sure as hell looked like he did in moto 2. When he was battling with Locurcio, he seemed to flat out quit going up the hill before Screw U.
Another thread?! How many do we need?
I guess I don't even think that's possible. I'm not saying you're wrong because I think you are correct. I just have truly never seen that in this sport maybe ever. Closest I can think of is some of Eli's weirdo rides where he intentionally backs down to 60-70% but nothing like this.
I would like someone to photograph his pit board every lap. I would bet at some point "WTF?" ends up being written on it.
Giving up just may be the source of all the confusion and disappointment. If you take away the results where it seems Prado just gave up, his season is actually not that bad, especially given all the changes.
Lol
the only solution is a plane back to europe
No, at this point it is a disgrace. I've paid to watch mxgp for the last 6 years (before not renewing this season with the lack of top end star power), and this is beyond just "new" everything. This is a disaster on all fronts. I am not surprised that he hasn't won a moto yet or been a consistent podium threat, but this is just something else, a level of disengagement and struggle that boggles the mind. The excuses are over, you're in or you're out. You're top tier or you are not, no matter what side of the pond you are on. Give us a flash or something for the media to cling on to. It's tough to watch even for an American fan who follows mxgp closely.
Hmmm I think we’re actually in agreement here? The giving up is not acceptable, we know the guy is world class and expect more. The time for excuses is over.
Even with all the ”new tracks, food, bike etc” he is still a 4 time world champion and should be able to podium on a good day like Southwick.
Without the 4 world titles the expectations would have been a lot lower, but if you are as good as he say he is and the GP results also say, he should be better on adapting and working around some of the problems than this.
More or less every moto this season has been the same, after he gets passed by a couple of riders he clearly sits up and shows the whole world that he won’t try any more this moto. Then he comes in and flame the bike and team until last weekend when someone at Kawasaki clearly had a talk with him that it’s time to shut up and stop blaming everyone else than himself.
It's embarrassing, i just don't get how anyone close to him hasn't had an intervention and talked some sense into him. It's insane that a rider of that caliber can put up results like this.
He's not getting beat because they're suddenly better than him, nor is it the bike as such. It's because he's not trying as soon as he thinks the bike is not where he wants it to be. Plus I suspect he's trying to get Kawi to 'part ways' with him so he can leave without having to buy his way out of his contract.
I never believed in this move from the second it was rumoured. I think he was extremely naive, arrogant or both to believe that he could go to America, new bike, new team, new everything and not struggle. Its not even worth analysing his performance anymore, he’s simply not trying, every time he goes out there and rides like that he puts himself further into the hole and makes it more difficult for himself to get back to his real level.
What I don’t understand is why pride doesn’t kick in on the track at some point, I don’t know how he goes back to the truck after a day like yesterday
...or 'Fuck off back to Spain/Belgium'
Shigehiko Kiyama: "Again? He gave up again? This is how close I am to going to America and kicking Prado's skinny arse..."
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I agree, all I was trying to say was that if he tried all the way through he’d probably be sitting 5th in the standings, which while not great for a 4x world champ, would be acceptable given the big changes and injury, but we’d expect more next year.
However Prado flat out giving up in multiple races, no matter how uncomfortable he was, is not acceptable.
I’d love to see Marchbanks on Prado’s bike.
Tired of seeing Prado mail it in with his fancy pink gear.
Dude seems like a diva.
Obviously, Prado is incredibly gifted. You don't just lose world class speed in the off season. I think it's clear that Prado isn't even trying at this point, and my guess would be it's a big FU to the team that he seems to think isn't listening to him.
I don't bag on riders very often because they are all way more talented than me, but what's disappointing to me is that Jorge isn't even trying. I really don't care if he comes in 1st or 10th, but at least try. Trying and getting 5th, 6ths, and 7ths would earn him the respect of fans. The more talent we have in the AMA series the better. But for Prado to not even try and then claim in interviews that he's better and can win these races is insulting. I'm trying to be generous since I understand there is a language barrier and much of what he says can come off wrong, but he's embarrassing himself at this point, and showing a lack of respect for his team and the fans who support him.
Does anyone know what his most recent tryometer level was at for the last race? I just want to make sure he's meeting Kawasaki's minimum requirements for trying, in order to make a well informed judgement of his performance.
What I want to know is, why was there so much hype surrounding him? If there had been nothing said, no one would question it. He came into the season with everyone touting how great he was going to be. I hope next year he can work the bugs out.
Go take a look at his resume and you should understand the hype…
Sooner or later you have to throw away the "resume" and actually produce. He doesnt even care that he is hurting his employer (or the MXGP reputation) at this point.
I say... Good riddance! Give that bike to someone with actual heart and determination.
Yes, lapping a second or 2 off of the best in AMA for a whole moto and finishing 30 seconds back in 6th, even if he started top 2 wouldn’t be bad at all. Seriously, those top 5 are hauling ass. But this suddenly lapping 8-10 seconds off in the last 10 minutes and dropping to 16th is just unexplainable…
At this point prado should be ashamed of himself and I hope he is. He is only hurting himself with his poor effort. If he is doing it to make a point then it just makes it worse. The lap times tell the story.
Yes, sooner or later but not when you were a world champion last season, hence the hype.
I am not defending his poor performance this year, just pointing out the obvious reason behind the hype around him going in to this season.
I have Multiple explanations, but here's my main ideas:
-He's homesick
-Its not the same tracks as MXGP, so he can make excuses
-The bike isn't a KTM platform, so he hates it...NO EFFORT TO DO WELL
-The motor is definitely NOT the problem, especially after multiple holeshots this season
-Too many people told him he's the best on the planet before racing Jett, Eli, Sexton, Hunter, Webb, Roczen, Anderson, Plessinger, Cooper, Hampshire, Ferrandis, Stewart, Barcia, Webster, Guillod, Schock, Harrison, Locurcio...
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