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8/16/2025 3:38pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

I couldn’t quite tell from the broadcast, but I thought his jersey was torn near his back shoulder

toroP wrote:

Any update on Ken?

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.A lot of ruts and his ankle is still...

Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.

A lot of ruts and his ankle is still bothering him. 

Thanks Mav

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8/16/2025 3:40pm

Today might be the first day I saw the pressure get to Deegan.

Ry1994 wrote:

Pressure or a team tactic to dodge racing Jett next week?

Calculated  riding.

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8/16/2025 3:41pm

Shitty news. 

Jack Chambers was airlifted to the hospital with a broken femur. 

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8/16/2025 3:51pm
toroP wrote:

Any update on Ken?

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.A lot of ruts and his ankle is still...

Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.

A lot of ruts and his ankle is still bothering him. 

toroP wrote:

Thanks Mav

At the 10 minute mark if you want to watch/listen. 

https://youtu.be/K4KpC4q_3Pc?si=xlbVtHU-COmZuEGl 

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8/16/2025 4:37pm
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I had Dylan for 5th , he got 6th over all not bad .

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.A lot of ruts and his ankle is still...

Weege said in the post race show that he pulled out. He didn't want to risk an injury.

A lot of ruts and his ankle is still bothering him. 

He could have earned himself 10 more SMX points by putting it on cruise control for 3 more laps. 

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8/16/2025 5:37pm
ohh_454 wrote:

Isn’t Prados dad here with him, his pops needs to whoop his ass between motos, keeps pulling this shit lol

Leave Jesus out of this!

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8/16/2025 5:38pm
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Jesuz George …..

Leave his dad out of this!

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8/16/2025 6:28pm

Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much more of a fight with the guys Jett is battling? Do you guys watch the races? I don't find it all that interesting either way but it's not subtle and I thought this was just accepted fact. 

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8/16/2025 6:31pm
truck wrote:
Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much...

Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much more of a fight with the guys Jett is battling? Do you guys watch the races? I don't find it all that interesting either way but it's not subtle and I thought this was just accepted fact. 

Not controversial at all imo. He puts up more of a fight for anyone else, and he kinda lets jett by. 

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8/16/2025 6:49pm
truck wrote:
Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much...

Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much more of a fight with the guys Jett is battling? Do you guys watch the races? I don't find it all that interesting either way but it's not subtle and I thought this was just accepted fact. 

Not controversial at all imo. He puts up more of a fight for anyone else, and he kinda lets jett by. 

It’s his brother lol if I’m not going to win I’d rather my brother win. And it’s not like Hunta goes all crazy and rides dangerous blocking people. Huntas outdoor stats the last 2 years on the 450 kinda has him as the 2nd best guy no matter who’s racing. 

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truck wrote:
Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much...

Wait, is it controversial to say that hunter often gives up positions to Jett with little to no fight, or at a minimum puts up much more of a fight with the guys Jett is battling? Do you guys watch the races? I don't find it all that interesting either way but it's not subtle and I thought this was just accepted fact. 

Not controversial at all imo. He puts up more of a fight for anyone else, and he kinda lets jett by. 

ohh_454 wrote:
It’s his brother lol if I’m not going to win I’d rather my brother win. And it’s not like Hunta goes all crazy and rides dangerous...

It’s his brother lol if I’m not going to win I’d rather my brother win. And it’s not like Hunta goes all crazy and rides dangerous blocking people. Huntas outdoor stats the last 2 years on the 450 kinda has him as the 2nd best guy no matter who’s racing. 

Totally agree that's why I don't think it's all that interesting of a story. Was more interesting to me that people were denying that it was a thing though. 

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8/16/2025 7:19pm
Mavetism wrote:
Well the only reason Hunter is the 2nd best guy right now is because he trains with Jett, but Jett is younger and probably more talented...

Well the only reason Hunter is the 2nd best guy right now is because he trains with Jett, but Jett is younger and probably more talented, he will always have Hunter covered for championships, that's just how it is. I doubt Hunter would even be close to this level if he didn't train and ride with Jett every day, a big team and family effort after all.

If Hunter were in striking distance of the championship he would have passed Jett, at least temporarily. Hunter was all over him. Imagine if he accidentally took himself and Jett out riding for the win. He backed it down when Jett wasn’t yielding. Hunter has exceeded my expectations this year. 

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8/16/2025 7:53pm

Who else thinks Deegs decided he wasnt going to lay it down and beat Shimoda today because he did not want to ride a 450 at the last round and get smoked by Jett? I think Jett should move down for the last race and show Deegs wassup on a 250. 

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8/16/2025 8:52pm
8500rpm wrote:
Really? Doc G has used some magic to look much younger and lose a lot of wight compared to youtube videos from 6years ago... but I...

Really? Doc G has used some magic to look much younger and lose a lot of wight compared to youtube videos from 6years ago... but I don't know, maybe it's the same guy? ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmOtdwYdbo )

aeffertz wrote:
No one is safe from Ozempic face. And I agree, it does look like he got veneers. The Steve-O comparison is spot on :lol:

No one is safe from Ozempic face. And I agree, it does look like he got veneers. The Steve-O comparison is spot on Grinning
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What's crazy is one of my college classmates married Doc G's son. 

8/16/2025 9:06pm

Anyone know why Harri Kullas didn't race moto 2 ?

8/16/2025 9:54pm

Just wanted to come on here and apologize for what I've said today, all of what I said was pretty much in the heat of the moment. Yes I still think jetts style is so awesome its boring to watch for long periods of time, and the split screen should be used more when its appropriate. All I really want is great battles and not one guy dominating, and for Eli to get an overall before the season is done which I wont think will happen unfortunately, but to still be consistently on the podium at his age is awesome.

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8/16/2025 10:04pm

Fastest laps of the races 

250 moto 1 

2.19.155 = Jo Shimoda 
2.20.507 = Haiden Deegan 
2.22.712 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.23.193 = Levi Kitchen 
2.23.579 = Seth Hammaker 
2.23.704 = Jordon Smith
2.24.106 = Tom Vialle
2.24.237 = Caden Dudney
2.24.352 = Ty Masterpool
2.25.208 = Brodie Connolly 

450 moto 1 

2.17.166 = Jett Lawrence 
2.17.396 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.18.248 = Eli Tomac 
2.20.921 = Ken Roczen 
2.21.312 = Justin Cooper
2.21.471 = Dylan Ferrandis
2.22.164 = Kyle Webster
2.22.941 = Malcolm Stewart 
2.23.093 = Valentin Guillod
2.23.115 = Jorge Prado Garcia 

250 moto 2 

2.21.002 = Jo Shimoda 
2.21.827 = Tom Vialle
2.22.646 = Haiden Deegan 
2.23.233 = Seth Hammaker 
2.23.545 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.23.642 = Levi Kitchen 
2.23.907 = Cade Dudney
2.24.162 = Julien Beaumer
2.24.333 = Drew Adams
2.25.116 = Nate Trasher 

450 moto 2 

2.18.069 = Jett Lawrence 
2.18.477 = RJ Hampshire 
2.18.616 = Eli Tomac 
2.18.727 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.19.546 = Justin Cooper
2.21.637 = Ken Roczen 
2.21.745 = Malcolm Stewart 
2.21.845 = Dylan Ferrandis
2.22.586 = Justin Barcia
2.23.563 = Kyle Webster

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8/16/2025 10:08pm

250 season stats 

Overall wins 

6 = Haiden Deegan 
3 = Jo Shimoda 
1 = Chance Hymas 

Overall podiums 

9 = Haiden Deegan 
7 = Jo Shimoda 
5 = Tom Vialle
4 = Levi Kitchen 
1 = Chance Hymas 
1 = Jalek Swoll 
1 = Michael Mosiman 
1 = Jeremy Martin 
1 = Garrett Marchbanks 

Moto wins 

12 = Haiden Deegan
5 = Jo Shimoda 
2 = Chance Hymas 
1 = Jeremy Martin 

Moto top 3 

19 = Haiden Deegan 
15 = Jo Shimoda 
8 = Tom Vialle
6 = Levi Kitchen 
4 = Chance Hymas 
3 = Seth Hammaker 
2 = Jeremy Martin
2 = Garrett Marchbanks 
1 = Jalek Swoll
1 = Mikkel Haarup 

Laps lead 

152 = Haiden Deegan 
76 = Jo Shimoda 
39 = Chance Hymas 
13 = Jeremy Martin
10 = Tom Vialle 
9 = Jalek Swoll 
8 = Seth Hammaker 
7 = Julien Beaumer 
5 = Casey Cochran 
2 = Lance Kobusch 
1 = Ryder Difrancesco 

Fastest lap of the moto 

8 = Haiden Deegan 
6 = Jo Shimoda 
2 = Chance Hymas
1 = Julien Beaumer
1 = Tom Vialle 
1 = Seth Hammaker 

Pole in practice 

4 = Haiden Deegan 
2 = Chance Hymas 
1 = Ryder Difrancesco 
1 = Garrett Marchbanks 
1 = Seth Hammaker 
1 = Drew Adams 

Holeshot 

4 = Chance Hymas 
4 = Tom Vialle
3 = Haiden Deegan 
2 = Jeremy Martin
2 = Jalek Swoll 
2 = Jo Shimoda 
1 = Casey Cochran 
1 = Nate Trasher 
1 = Seth Hammaker  
 

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8/16/2025 10:11pm

450 season stats 

Overall wins 

8 = Jett Lawrence 
1 = Chase Sexton 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 

Overall podiums 

9 = Jett Lawrence 
7 = Hunter Lawrence 
7 = Eli Tomac 
2 = Aaron Plessinger
2 = Justin Cooper 
2 = Chase Sexton 
1 = RJ Hampshire 

Moto wins 

15 = Jett Lawrence 
2 = Eli Tomac 
2 = Chase Sexton 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 

Moto top 3 

19 = Jett Lawrence 
13 = Hunter Lawrence 
12 = Eli Tomac 
5 = Aaron Plessinger 
5 = Chase Sexton 
4 = Justin Cooper
2 = RJ Hampshire 

Laps lead 

211 = Jett Lawrence 
33 = Hunter Lawrence 
19 = Aaron Plessinger 
19 = Chase Sexton 
16 = Eli Tomac 
9 = Justin Cooper 
6 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
3 = RJ Hampshire 
1 = Coty Schock 

Fastest lap of the moto 

15 = Jett Lawrence 
2 = Eli Tomac 
1 = Aaron Plessinger 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 

Pole in practice 

7 = Jett Lawrence 
3 = Justin Cooper 

Holeshot 

6 = Jett Lawrence 
6 = Hunter Lawrence 
2 = Coty Schock 
2 = Eli Tomac 
2 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1 = Cooper Webb 
1 = Justin Cooper

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8/16/2025 10:29pm
Just wanted to come on here and apologize for what I've said today, all of what I said was pretty much in the heat of the...

Just wanted to come on here and apologize for what I've said today, all of what I said was pretty much in the heat of the moment. Yes I still think jetts style is so awesome its boring to watch for long periods of time, and the split screen should be used more when its appropriate. All I really want is great battles and not one guy dominating, and for Eli to get an overall before the season is done which I wont think will happen unfortunately, but to still be consistently on the podium at his age is awesome.

You still ramblin on here 🤣🤣🤣🤣 jk jk chill, you might be the first person on vital to apologize 😂😂😂

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8/16/2025 10:40pm
ohh_454 wrote:

You still ramblin on here 🤣🤣🤣🤣 jk jk chill, you might be the first person on vital to apologize 😂😂😂

Lol, I chilled out a good while after the races, mainly after I took a nap. I am a  nice and genuine person irl, people around me will say the same. However they don't know that I cuss here and there, never at someone in person, I still need to work on that, even though sometimes I forget to. 

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8/16/2025 11:10pm
Mavetism wrote:
We all want more riders to challenge him, no question about it.. But the fact is that other than Chase nobody has the speed to actually...

We all want more riders to challenge him, no question about it.. But the fact is that other than Chase nobody has the speed to actually challenge him and Chase doesn't have the same mental strength (yet, hopefully). Unless he gets injured every season will likely look the same and we have to get used to it.

Hunter has trained with him more than anyone ever probably, he’s tried but he hasn’t actually done something yet.

Mavetism wrote:
Well the only reason Hunter is the 2nd best guy right now is because he trains with Jett, but Jett is younger and probably more talented...

Well the only reason Hunter is the 2nd best guy right now is because he trains with Jett, but Jett is younger and probably more talented, he will always have Hunter covered for championships, that's just how it is. I doubt Hunter would even be close to this level if he didn't train and ride with Jett every day, a big team and family effort after all.

I actually think it’s the other way around. Jett does have more talent, but I don’t think he gets to be as good as he is if he didn’t have an older brother as fast as Hunter.

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8/16/2025 11:45pm
CPR wrote:
I actually think it’s the other way around. Jett does have more talent, but I don’t think he gets to be as good as he is...

I actually think it’s the other way around. Jett does have more talent, but I don’t think he gets to be as good as he is if he didn’t have an older brother as fast as Hunter.

I totally agree, hunter was basically the experiment, dazzy and emma applied the things they learned from hunter and had jett learn it and now jett’s the wonder kid and hunter is second.

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8/17/2025 12:53am
Mavetism wrote:

Man Prado on the screen and he literally just rolls around.. so sad to see 

Sitting 6th in points by just rolling around in safe mode, weak series?

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8/17/2025 1:13am

On Deegs. This might have been the biggest head scratcher of his entire career. I would not have predicted that he’d want to lay back and take the title the easy way for these last two rounds. I for sure thought he’d clinch today and do the 450 next week. Disappointing.

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8/17/2025 1:24am Edited Date/Time 8/17/2025 2:07am

On Deegan:

Maybe he matured enough (or told by dad/team) that going balls out after Jo who had a great day, not very clever. A crash with a injury and the championship is gone!

Just look at that silly warm up crash…

What overall result will he need next weekend if Jo goes 1-1 again..? 15:th?

IF he would have crashed the championship away chasing Jo, for sure he would be called a immature idiot here by the same guys blasting him for letting Jo have it this day 😆

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8/17/2025 1:31am

Just speaking facts have Clinton Fowler pull the stat has Hunter ever passed Jett in outdoors? 😭

crusty_xx wrote:

There's less than a handful of riders on the planet that have passed him on a 450 outdoors... 

100% and I’m simply asking a question has Hunter ever passed Jett? Can’t ask valid questions on vital you might get scrutinized lol Thank god I have hobbies...

100% and I’m simply asking a question has Hunter ever passed Jett? 

Can’t ask valid questions on vital you might get scrutinized lol 

Thank god I have hobbies in my life for mavitism and maverick vital is not a hobby thumbs down warriors unite! 

Have a good weekend and remember your just a vitard in the end. 

Group hugs for poor steve the urchin

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8/17/2025 2:12am

Hunter won’t pass Jett 😜

Mavetism wrote:

you're such an idiot

Just speaking facts have Clinton Fowler pull the stat has Hunter ever passed Jett in outdoors? 😭

Have you and Clinton been watching at all? Hunter has passed Jett multiple times, but like nearly every other mx rider on the planet, most passes have been fleeting, and none have stuck. 
Hardly a diss when you can count the number of guys who have passed him on one hand. 

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