Trump meeting with Putin in Alaska on Friday to pursue an end to the War in Ukraine.

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What time is Sara Palin starting the meeting?

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I think I have the same desired outcome we all have; Russia leaves Ukraine, the killing stops, and we can then stop funding the war machine...

I think I have the same desired outcome we all have; Russia leaves Ukraine, the killing stops, and we can then stop funding the war machine. Do I think that it is going to happen that simply, no across all three, but I would much rather see my tax money going to build places up vs tearing them down.

You mean tax dollars spent tearing down stuff in Ukraine?

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How would you say people form they political opinions? Do you believe it is through upbringing? Education? Traumatic experiences? Their industry? All of the above? 

Fun thing to think about.Personally, I'd venture to say that everything you experience from the time your born to the time you die forms your political...

Fun thing to think about.

Personally, I'd venture to say that everything you experience from the time your born to the time you die forms your political opinions. That's why I champion trying to experience as much as you can as it pertains to the world you live in (travel, volunteer, try different jobs, try different hobbies, different ideologies, religions, etc.) because the only way you'll really understand anything is to walk in everything's shoes. Which, yes I know, is impossible to walk in everything's shoes, but the more people you date the better understanding you'll have about yourself, what's wrong / right with what you thought you wanted, and what you actually want.

Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different belief than yourself have formed theirs? This is something I have struggled with myself until recently when I was forced to undertake introspection due to my renewed faith. I am not dragging this conversation into the theological realm, I am only mentioning it to explain why I changed my view on others and their opinions. 

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TalinH112 wrote:
Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different...

Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different belief than yourself have formed theirs? This is something I have struggled with myself until recently when I was forced to undertake introspection due to my renewed faith. I am not dragging this conversation into the theological realm, I am only mentioning it to explain why I changed my view on others and their opinions. 

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering, "saying yes" to as many different types of work I can get my hands on, constantly exploring new hobbies, engaging in local politics, visiting different religions places of worship (as well as participating in their rituals), and I am always trying to engage in conversations with people outside of "my ideological bubble" (of which I would say engaging with the right leaning folks here in non-moto is a great example of).

The more I do to try and connect with the world and the people in it the more I seem to connect with the world and the people in it; sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's awful, but I always learn something from the experience and the more it rounds out my views of this little planet we live on and the dumb people who live on it (myself included).

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8/14/2025 3:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2025 4:03pm

So yeah how about Trump visiting Anchorage? Haven’t seen him land yet, Air Force One should be pretty easy to spot landing here. 

Nothing about proposed solutions or incentives for the meeting or speculation about how it will go?

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TalinH112 wrote:
Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different...

Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different belief than yourself have formed theirs? This is something I have struggled with myself until recently when I was forced to undertake introspection due to my renewed faith. I am not dragging this conversation into the theological realm, I am only mentioning it to explain why I changed my view on others and their opinions. 

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering...

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering, "saying yes" to as many different types of work I can get my hands on, constantly exploring new hobbies, engaging in local politics, visiting different religions places of worship (as well as participating in their rituals), and I am always trying to engage in conversations with people outside of "my ideological bubble" (of which I would say engaging with the right leaning folks here in non-moto is a great example of).

The more I do to try and connect with the world and the people in it the more I seem to connect with the world and the people in it; sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's awful, but I always learn something from the experience and the more it rounds out my views of this little planet we live on and the dumb people who live on it (myself included).

Interesting, well thank you for taking the time to respond in a thoughtful and respectful manner. This place can be a crap shoot sometimes but I genuinely would like to learn about people and why they believe the way they do. Bridges can span vast distances, but only once both sides have been examined and understood. 

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There will come a time soon where none of the colored sidewalks, drag queen for kids hour, and/or illegal immigrants will matter. 

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Man, it’s all just transactional phases, most of which burn out quickly.  Sure, vestiges of their former selves endure via the ultra-devoted, but none of it warrant much time & energy. Some folks are just looking to rage against something, anything, to mask gaps in their lives.  Just go out, enjoy what you enjoy, and don’t waste what limited time we have fretting over the actions of others. 

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TalinH112 wrote:
Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different...

Honest question, have you considered lending the same train of thought you apply to your development of political views to understanding why people of a different belief than yourself have formed theirs? This is something I have struggled with myself until recently when I was forced to undertake introspection due to my renewed faith. I am not dragging this conversation into the theological realm, I am only mentioning it to explain why I changed my view on others and their opinions. 

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering...

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering, "saying yes" to as many different types of work I can get my hands on, constantly exploring new hobbies, engaging in local politics, visiting different religions places of worship (as well as participating in their rituals), and I am always trying to engage in conversations with people outside of "my ideological bubble" (of which I would say engaging with the right leaning folks here in non-moto is a great example of).

The more I do to try and connect with the world and the people in it the more I seem to connect with the world and the people in it; sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's awful, but I always learn something from the experience and the more it rounds out my views of this little planet we live on and the dumb people who live on it (myself included).

TalinH112 wrote:
Interesting, well thank you for taking the time to respond in a thoughtful and respectful manner. This place can be a crap shoot sometimes but I...

Interesting, well thank you for taking the time to respond in a thoughtful and respectful manner. This place can be a crap shoot sometimes but I genuinely would like to learn about people and why they believe the way they do. Bridges can span vast distances, but only once both sides have been examined and understood. 

What is going on here… this is NOT how we vitalmx! 

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Man, it’s all just transactional phases, most of which burn out quickly.  Sure, vestiges of their former selves endure via the ultra-devoted, but none of it...

Man, it’s all just transactional phases, most of which burn out quickly.  Sure, vestiges of their former selves endure via the ultra-devoted, but none of it warrant much time & energy. Some folks are just looking to rage against something, anything, to mask gaps in their lives.  Just go out, enjoy what you enjoy, and don’t waste what limited time we have fretting over the actions of others. 

We’ll see

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Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering...

Not only do I consider it, I try my best to live it everyday. That's why – in addition to working – I prioritize travel, volunteering, "saying yes" to as many different types of work I can get my hands on, constantly exploring new hobbies, engaging in local politics, visiting different religions places of worship (as well as participating in their rituals), and I am always trying to engage in conversations with people outside of "my ideological bubble" (of which I would say engaging with the right leaning folks here in non-moto is a great example of).

The more I do to try and connect with the world and the people in it the more I seem to connect with the world and the people in it; sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's awful, but I always learn something from the experience and the more it rounds out my views of this little planet we live on and the dumb people who live on it (myself included).

Different religions? Have you tried fasting and prayer? If so, how long and what have you given up? What was the purpose and what was the result?

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It’s going to be 1600% cheaper!!

God damn I’ll vote for either party if one of them would give us a candidate with a brain

Not sure that will ever happen tho

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What a wonderfully perfect Orwellian response... no substance, just dismissive insults.

Thanks Luke!

burn1986 wrote:

So… what outcome are you looking for in the meeting with Putin? 

Trying to bring the thread back to topic... 

I'm expecting fuck all. What I'm hoping for is the Donald putting some real pressure on Russia to back off and maybe a ceasefire to start proper talks with Ukraine but that feels like a long-shot.

I just don't see Putin or the Russians being willing to give up anything they've already taken, and the chance to put pressure on them on the battlefield to do that seems to have been lost in the last six months of dithering and pissing about. 

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It’s going to be 1600% cheaper!!God damn I’ll vote for either party if one of them would give us a candidate with a brainNot sure that...

It’s going to be 1600% cheaper!!

God damn I’ll vote for either party if one of them would give us a candidate with a brain

Not sure that will ever happen tho

So I take it it's been some time since you voted for either party? I know it has for me. 

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Then there’s arrogant asses that think the foolishness that you do…That everyone-else sees the world thru your twisted lens.I’ll offer you this: not everyone takes The...

Then there’s arrogant asses that think the foolishness that you do…

That everyone-else sees the world thru your twisted lens.

I’ll offer you this: not everyone takes The Victim Position that you do.

I’m still laughing at your “Rainbow Cross-walks”. I’m still laughing at your ability to claim victimhood at every turn. I’m still laughing at you.

Bradbury…Orwell…Asimov…yes, you’re pissing up the tree of stupidity.

No worries. Thanks for playing along.

Now…go paint some more cross-walks. Victim. 

Orwell perfectly predicted how hard ya'll would latch onto Trumps tit (or any man of his personality) because he knows that you and your...

Orwell perfectly predicted how hard ya'll would latch onto Trumps tit (or any man of his personality) because he knows that you and your fellow TDS'ers entire personalities are built around playing the victim and he illustrated many times how easy it is to exploit that mentality.

This is Orwell 101 stuff.

TeamGreen wrote:
You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.You Don’t Get To Make...

You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.

Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.

You Don’t Get To Make This Shit Up

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. 

BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative. Just two different flavors, two different colors of it. Just two sides to the same coin. 

both of these narratives you follow run parallel with, and mirror each other. They both validate eachother. They are both mainstream. 

Anyone who thinks the government, run by either party, led by any individual is here to help is being duped. 

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Orwell perfectly predicted how hard ya'll would latch onto Trumps tit (or any man of his personality) because he knows that you and your...

Orwell perfectly predicted how hard ya'll would latch onto Trumps tit (or any man of his personality) because he knows that you and your fellow TDS'ers entire personalities are built around playing the victim and he illustrated many times how easy it is to exploit that mentality.

This is Orwell 101 stuff.

TeamGreen wrote:
You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.You Don’t Get To Make...

You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.

Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.

You Don’t Get To Make This Shit Up

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative...

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. 

BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative. Just two different flavors, two different colors of it. Just two sides to the same coin. 

both of these narratives you follow run parallel with, and mirror each other. They both validate eachother. They are both mainstream. 

Anyone who thinks the government, run by either party, led by any individual is here to help is being duped. 

At this point there is only one option, burn it down and start over. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.You Don’t Get To Make...

You’re on the wrong side of the street: you’re the one following the mainstream narrative.

Thanks for playing along. Go paint some crosswalks.

You Don’t Get To Make This Shit Up

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative...

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. 

BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative. Just two different flavors, two different colors of it. Just two sides to the same coin. 

both of these narratives you follow run parallel with, and mirror each other. They both validate eachother. They are both mainstream. 

Anyone who thinks the government, run by either party, led by any individual is here to help is being duped. 

TalinH112 wrote:

At this point there is only one option, burn it down and start over. 

Would you settle for dismantled?

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Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative...

Both of you believe that your chosen political parties can and will solve these issues that we face today. 

BOTH OF YOU are following the mainstream narrative. Just two different flavors, two different colors of it. Just two sides to the same coin. 

both of these narratives you follow run parallel with, and mirror each other. They both validate eachother. They are both mainstream. 

Anyone who thinks the government, run by either party, led by any individual is here to help is being duped. 

TalinH112 wrote:

At this point there is only one option, burn it down and start over. 

olds cool wrote:

Would you settle for dismantled?

Ok, but the dismantling has to be 100%! 🤣

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Different religions? Have you tried fasting and prayer? If so, how long and what have you given up? What was the purpose and what was the...

Different religions? Have you tried fasting and prayer? If so, how long and what have you given up? What was the purpose and what was the result?

Different religions? Yes.
Have you tried fasting and prayer? Yes.

If so, how long and what have you given up? 
Several times I've participated in both day long fasting (done days on end) and cutting things out of my life for long periods of time; all of which have revolved around diet, technology, and lifestyle.

What was the purpose?
To fully commit to an unfamiliar experience (and see where the ride takes me).

...and what was the result?
That fasting and prayer isn't an intense enough of an experience for me to achieve the pure moments of disconnection and clarity I was looking for.

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TalinH112 wrote:

At this point there is only one option, burn it down and start over. 

olds cool wrote:

Would you settle for dismantled?

TalinH112 wrote:

Ok, but the dismantling has to be 100%! 🤣

We'd be beyond fucked if we dismantled things 100%.

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olds cool wrote:

Would you settle for dismantled?

TalinH112 wrote:

Ok, but the dismantling has to be 100%! 🤣

We'd be beyond fucked if we dismantled things 100%.

Yes, this comment was made in jest. 

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Did DT make it to Russia yet?

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Did DT make it to Russia yet?

I think that viewing it from Palin’s front porch will have to suffice…..

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Balls in your court donny

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Psst, hey Hillary, Trump's not negotiating for Zelinski. Try to keep up.

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Balls in your court donny

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Hillary only said that because she knows that isn't possible. 

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vet323 wrote:

Hillary only said that because she knows that isn't possible. 

Why not? It's Ukraine's land.

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browsing the web, reddit, here, etc and it's fucking amazing to me all the people that WISH for no peace to be found in this meet. holy fuck. people really fucking hate this country.

 

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